Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5181|Sydney
It's not just about who is president, there are seats etc. to be elected.
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6677|Canberra, AUS

Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
There's no "one fit solution" to 50 states, each with their own environmental variables. That's why it's easier to let the state's themselves do the planning.
It's not like those variables stop at the state borders, though...

MDB. That's all I'm gonna say.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5360|London, England

Cybargs wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
There's no "one fit solution" to 50 states, each with their own environmental variables. That's why it's easier to let the state's themselves do the planning.
The EPA is supposed to set minimum standards for states to follow and serve as a vehicle for states to settle disputes i.e. downstream states being able to sue upstream states for negligence etc. The problem is that the EPA has instead turned into a vehicle for idealists to force their morals on everyone else. I don't care if you agree with what they believe in or not, appointed members of the bureaucracy should not be able to enact rules and laws, that's Congress' job, and is why the Republicans voted to destroy it.
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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6413|'Murka

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
I'm not familiar with companies bullying states. Do you have examples?
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Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6719

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
I'm not familiar with companies bullying states. Do you have examples?
corporations are evil man, coz like you know bottom line and everything
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13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6500

https://i.imgur.com/nbroz.jpg

they forgot a key platform point;

Citizen: I don't want government telling me what to do.
Government:\
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6634|949

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
I'm not familiar with companies bullying states. Do you have examples?
lobbying?  Threatening to move unless business-friendly laws or relaxed regulations/taxes or subsidies are given?  Maybe bullying is the wrong term but are you playing dumb for the sake of argument?
unnamednewbie13
Moderator
+2,053|6774|PNW

A large enough company moving out-of-state can be bad for said state. But it can go two ways.

HP wanted to move into Pierce County (I believe it was) in western Washington, but were harassed by so many terms, conditions, regulations and money-grubbing by authorities that they changed their mind.
FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6413|'Murka

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

Companies can pull out and bully states much easier than they could the federal government.

Whatever
I'm not familiar with companies bullying states. Do you have examples?
lobbying?  Threatening to move unless business-friendly laws or relaxed regulations/taxes or subsidies are given?  Maybe bullying is the wrong term but are you playing dumb for the sake of argument?
Lobbying = influence. Bullying = threatening.

Bullying IS the wrong term. Influence is a valid argument, but not the one that was made. I'm assuming he knows the difference and chose "bullying" for a reason. I honestly can't think of an instance where a company has bullied a state to get their way--hence my question. Bribery, on the other hand...

There's likely more "bullying" on the part of government toward business than the other way around, via new laws with short implementation timelines aimed at specific businesses/industries.
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― Albert Einstein

Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5181|Sydney
Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6777|Noizyland

Huh, I remember when "only God can save this campaign now" wasn't a positive thing to say about your candidate.
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_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6719|Riva, MD
Some people are just so pathetic that when they see how fucked Romney is, all they can do is smile and say "God will make everything right"
AussieReaper
( ͡° ͜ʖ ͡°)
+5,761|6155|what

I think you're all far too dismissive of the power Romney wields within his magical underwear.
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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6108|eXtreme to the maX
Pretty sure its the underwear which wields the power.
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A2TG2
Hazbeen
+67|4527|at your six
You would have to be a brain dead idiot to vote for Obammy.
UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5039|Massachusetts, USA

A2TG2 wrote:

You would have to be a brain dead idiot to vote for Romney.
Fix't
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,810|6108|eXtreme to the maX
So what happened to Paul Ryan?
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War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6716|Purplicious Wisconsin
Presidential debate score

Romney: 1
Obama: 0

Lets see who wins the next two debates.

Dilbert_X wrote:

So what happened to Paul Ryan?
Doing behind the scenes work for Romney, doing his job as congressman, and prepping to kick Biden's ass debate with Biden in the Vice Presidential debate

UnkleRukus wrote:

A2TG2 wrote:

You would have to be a brain dead idiot to vote for Obama.
Fix't
Properly fixed

Last edited by War Man (2012-10-04 11:42:04)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
13urnzz
Banned
+5,830|6500

War Man wrote:

Presidential debate score

Rommney: 1
Obama: 0
hey dumbass, it's spelled Rmoney not Rommney
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
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Ty
Mass Media Casualty
+2,398|6777|Noizyland


Oldie in Internet years but still good.
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west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6392
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Jaekus
I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose
+957|5181|Sydney
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UnkleRukus
That Guy
+236|5039|Massachusetts, USA

War Man wrote:

Presidential debate score

Rommney: 1
Obama: 0

Lets see who wins the next two debates.

Dilbert_X wrote:

So what happened to Paul Ryan?
Doing behind the scenes work for Romney, doing his job as congressman, and prepping to kick Biden's ass debate with Biden in the Vice Presidential debate

UnkleRukus wrote:

A2TG2 wrote:

You would have to be a brain dead idiot to vote for Obama.
Fix't
Properly fixed
Are you even old enough to vote?
If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,973|6634|949

He's over 18.  From what I understand he also doesn't have a job, doesn't have a high school degree and still lives at home with his parents.  A real go getter entrepeneur, right in line with the Repub voter base.

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