BF2S Forums 2012 U.S. election presidential, Mitt Romney vs Barack Obama

Superior Mind wrote:

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Who should I vote for and why?

Cybargs wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

A mate served 5.5 months in Afghanistan. When he came back a couple months ago the payout was enough to put the deposit down on a house for he and his wife.

I'd say serving in a place like that warrants the money he earned.

At least Jay actually deployed and got paid to get shot at. POGs get shot like everybody else.

I know Aus gov pays something crazy like 150k per 6month deployment to the 'stan. American gov pays you dick compared to that lol.

Cybargs wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

A mate served 5.5 months in Afghanistan. When he came back a couple months ago the payout was enough to put the deposit down on a house for he and his wife.

I'd say serving in a place like that warrants the money he earned.

At least Jay actually deployed and got paid to get shot at. POGs get shot like everybody else.

I know Aus gov pays something crazy like 150k per 6month deployment to the 'stan. American gov pays you dick compared to that lol.

According to Adorno, in psychoanalysis only the exaggerations are true. If you wished to characterize the Democrats and the Republicans in terms of true exaggerations, you might say that the Republicans have become the Party of Psychosis while the Democrats have become the Party of Neurosis. The Republicans are psychotic because they have lost contact with reality, and orient their behavior not toward realities but toward fantasies. The Democrats are neurotic because they are aim-inhibited, as an old-fashioned shrink might say: their anxieties, hang-ups, and insecurities mean that they can’t attain satisfaction, since in a basic way they won’t even allow themselves to know what they want.

Many features of the Republican psychosis are well known: Global warming isn’t caused by humans; Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac are responsible for the financial crisis; the President, who may be a foreign-born anticolonialist undermining America at the bidding of his father’s ghost, has eliminated the work requirement for welfare; and so on. There’s never much point in talking to psychotics, though we can speculate about the particular delusions they exhibit. Most of us probably subscribe to an interpretation of the Grand Old Psychosis (GOP) that goes something like this: The trauma of American decline as experienced by white people, older people, and men—and above all older white men—has caused a psychic break producing a classic paranoid delusion, in which that segment of the population which through its race, culture, and creed embodies the American virtues responsible for the country’s former greatness is being attacked by a composite monster (dark-skinned, sexually deviant, non-Christian, and anticapitalist) bent on stigmatizing family as patriarchy, religion as ignorance, and free enterprise as predation. Here as in many cases of persecution delusion we might suspect the displacement onto others of a terrible guilt, in this instance surrounding war, racism, climate destruction, and so on. This interpretation of Republican loss of contact with reality is cartoonish and speculative but, in my considered opinion as a democratic ecosocialist and citizen–clinician, probably true as far as it goes.

Jay wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Ralph Nader it is.

He retired. Now Jill Stein is running in his place.

http://www.jillstein.org/ wrote:

We are occupying our city squares, our imperiled schools, workplaces, and threatened homes. And now, with this election, we are going to occupy the voting booth in November.

Jaekus wrote:

I read something yesterday that said "40% of all illnesses are caused by pollution".

I don't know if that's one of the 87% of statistics that are made up on the spot, but regardless, there is certainly some truth to that.

Mitt Romney described almost half of Americans as “dependent upon government” during a private reception with donors this year and said those voters were likely to support President Obama because they believe they are “entitled to health care, to food, to housing, to you-name-it."
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In one video segment, Mr. Romney described how his campaign is writing off “47 percent of the people” who will vote for Mr. Obama “no matter what.” He adds that those people “are people who pay no income tax” and says “so our message of low taxes doesn’t connect.”

Mr. Romney said that “my job is not to worry about those people. I’ll never convince them they should take personal responsibility and care for their lives.”

In an audio clip of the same fund-raiser, apparently posted on the Internet by the person who gave the videos to Mother Jones, Mr. Romney is heard joking that he would have had an easier time winning the election if his father had been born to Mexican parents.

“My dad, as you probably know, was the governor of Michigan and was the head of a car company,” Mr. Romney says in the audio clip. “But he was born in Mexico and, uh, had he been born of, uh, Mexican parents, I’d have a better shot at winning this.”