most supervised ranges require "eyes and ears"
oh. i've never been on a range that needed eye protection, and thats even when i've been on RAF bases let alone some random country rifle range.
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Eye protection is just smart.
Ear protection is REQUIRED if you don't want hearing damage. Yes, .22LR is enough to cause damage.
Ear protection is REQUIRED if you don't want hearing damage. Yes, .22LR is enough to cause damage.
Yes this was the case at the range I went to.west-phoenix-az wrote:
most supervised ranges require "eyes and ears"
My .22 is relatively quiet though and I could shoot it without ear plugs
If I'm trying to get a .22 rifle and a 20 ga. shotgun from one state to another, what are my options? It's pretty far away so I'd prefer not to drive if I can avoid it.
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Mail it to yourself.Blade4509 wrote:
If I'm trying to get a .22 rifle and a 20 ga. shotgun from one state to another, what are my options? It's pretty far away so I'd prefer not to drive if I can avoid it.
AFAIK, in the US, you can mail firearms to yourself through the USPS.
You must list the owner of the firearm (you) as the recipient, though.
Check with your postoffice for details, as those change from time to time.
I've heard they prefer you to ship the firearm in non-operable condition.
Like, ship the bolt separately, for example.
Last I checked, DO send it insured and registered, DO NOT mark the outside box to indicate it is a firearm.
You want to be able to track it, but you don't want an anonymous crackhead postal worker in bumfuck nowhere processing station to know they're handling a firearm.
Again, check with the local post office before doing this.
My info may be out of date, and felonies are no fun.
Last edited by rdx-fx (2012-08-25 12:39:42)
Question:
What is the thing on the tip of this Wather P22? and why does it cost ~$150 more?
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/p … ;from=grid
here is the standard model without the barrel thing:
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/p … ;from=grid
What is the thing on the tip of this Wather P22? and why does it cost ~$150 more?
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/p … ;from=grid
here is the standard model without the barrel thing:
http://www.gandermountain.com/modperl/p … ;from=grid
Last edited by eusgen (2012-08-25 13:59:23)
I've heard the ruger sr22 is the functional version of that pistol.
After doing some research I see what you mean and it will be fitting since I have the Ruger 10/22 already and I love itReciprocity wrote:
I've heard the ruger sr22 is the functional version of that pistol.
I would really love a Walther PPK tho!
the ruger is supposedly a fun little .22 pistol. another good one is apparently the S&W M&P22, which is made by walther.
If you are not an FFL, I don't think you can mail pistols through the USPS. UPS, DHL, etc are OK, as long as you comply with their convoluted rules.rdx-fx wrote:
Mail it to yourself.Blade4509 wrote:
If I'm trying to get a .22 rifle and a 20 ga. shotgun from one state to another, what are my options? It's pretty far away so I'd prefer not to drive if I can avoid it.
AFAIK, in the US, you can mail firearms to yourself through the USPS.
You must list the owner of the firearm (you) as the recipient, though.
Check with your postoffice for details, as those change from time to time.
I've heard they prefer you to ship the firearm in non-operable condition.
Like, ship the bolt separately, for example.
Last I checked, DO send it insured and registered, DO NOT mark the outside box to indicate it is a firearm.
You want to be able to track it, but you don't want an anonymous crackhead postal worker in bumfuck nowhere processing station to know they're handling a firearm.
Again, check with the local post office before doing this.
My info may be out of date, and felonies are no fun.
Rifles and shotguns should be good through the USPS, although I would talk to them first, as post offices are federal facilities and have pretty nasty penalties for bringing firearms into them!
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicen … ms-carrier
Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]
Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
Q: May a person who is relocating out of State move firearms with other household goods?
Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence.
Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31]
Went to a civilian pistol range today, it was my first time shooting at a non-military range. Was a pretty good afternoon actually, we fired a Ruger .22, Glock 9mm, S&W .38 Spl and a S&W .357. Put 50 rounds through each.
I went to a local gun store today and asked him about the sr22 and he said he didn't like them (didn't specify reason) and had to return 3 already (didnt specify why again).eusgen wrote:
After doing some research I see what you mean and it will be fitting since I have the Ruger 10/22 already and I love itReciprocity wrote:
I've heard the ruger sr22 is the functional version of that pistol.
I would really love a Walther PPK tho!
he recommended the p22, another shop also recommended the p22 but had no review or opinion on the sr22.
I've owned a couple P22s. One had some minor issues and one was almost perfect. Not a bad pistol, but if I was going to buy one of these two today it would probably be the sr22. Ruger makes good guns. They're not always the best looking or most accurate, but they're affordable and reliable. Both Walther and Ruger have good customer service, Ruger's being a little better.
THIS.west-phoenix-az wrote:
http://www.atf.gov/firearms/faq/unlicen … ms-carrier
Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm through the U.S. Postal Service?
A nonlicensee may not transfer a firearm to a non-licensed resident of another State. A nonlicensee may mail a shotgun or rifle to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. The Postal Service recommends that long guns be sent by registered mail and that no marking of any kind which would indicate the nature of the contents be placed on the outside of any parcel containing firearms. Handguns are not mailable. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun.
[18 U.S.C. 1715, 922(a)(3), 922(a)(5) and 922 (a)(2)(A)]
Q: May a nonlicensee ship a firearm by common or contract carrier?
A nonlicensee may ship a firearm by a common or contract carrier to a resident of his or her own State or to a licensee in any State. A common or contract carrier must be used to ship a handgun. In addition, Federal law requires that the carrier be notified that the shipment contains a firearm and prohibits common or contract carriers from requiring or causing any label to be placed on any package indicating that it contains a firearm.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(2)(A), 922(a) (3), 922(a)(5) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.31 and 478.30]
Q: May a nonlicensee ship firearms interstate for his or her use in hunting or other lawful activity?
Yes. A person may ship a firearm to himself or herself in care of another person in the State where he or she intends to hunt or engage in any other lawful activity. The package should be addressed to the owner. Persons other than the owner should not open the package and take possession of the firearm.
Q: May a person who is relocating out of State move firearms with other household goods?
Yes. A person who lawfully possesses a firearm may transport or ship the firearm interstate when changing his or her State of residence.
Certain NFA firearms must have prior approval from the Bureau of ATF before they may be moved interstate. The person must notify the mover that firearms are being transported. He or she should also check State and local laws where relocating to ensure that movement of firearms into the new State does not violate any State law or local ordinance.
[18 U.S.C. 922(a)(4) and 922(e), 27 CFR 478.28 and 478.31]
Take gun to pawn shop as they usually a have a FFL. Have them ship it to another FFL holder in the area where you are moving (will probably be another pawn shop). Pay them the ghey 15% value of gun shipping fee that most charge. Move. Go to other pawn shop and pick up gun. I had to use a pawn shop to send the kimber back to kimber. I also used a pawn shop to have a pistol I bought online shipped to my local. You can always contact a local firearms store and ask them how much they'd charge.
Or just do some extra leg work and research the States' laws that you will be traveling though to see if you can bring them yourself.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
I want one of thosekrazed wrote:
For finding a local dealer you can also use one of these:
http://www.gunbroker.com/ffl/dealernetwork.aspx
http://www.fflfinder.com/
Typical transfer cost around here is $20. Many give a discount for those with ccw. The small guys usually charge less. It's worth calling 5-6 of them to get a idea of what is being charged in your area. The bigger/more popular gun stores usually charge more ($50+).
http://www.gunbroker.com/ffl/dealernetwork.aspx
http://www.fflfinder.com/
Typical transfer cost around here is $20. Many give a discount for those with ccw. The small guys usually charge less. It's worth calling 5-6 of them to get a idea of what is being charged in your area. The bigger/more popular gun stores usually charge more ($50+).
it's funTrotskygrad wrote:
I want one of thosekrazed wrote:
how much did it cost you?krazed wrote:
it's funTrotskygrad wrote:
I want one of thosekrazed wrote:
The GSG 1911-22 runs about $300-400 in the US.
any reliability issues from what you've heard?west-phoenix-az wrote:
The GSG 1911-22 runs about $300-400 in the US.
I have no personal experience with them, only read about them online.