Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5577|London, England

13urnzz wrote:

Jay wrote:

13urnzz wrote:


yeah! when you agree with Jay you'll be OK
Drunk again Steve?
no, why do you ask? will you accuse me of being angry too?
Do you really think there are stark differences between Obama and Romney? You do understand that Paul Ryan's budget plan was only about $56Bn lower than Obama's, right? You understand that his plan wouldn't have balanced the budget until 2040? Sure, that passes for wonderful for Washington, but it was pretty terrible overall.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
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+2,006|5577|London, England

Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

It's really not. Romney is no different from Obama economically. It makes for fabulous talking points though.
Then why are you bitching about Obama and hoping Romney gets elected?
I don't. All I want this election cycle is for the Republicans to control at least one house of government so we don't get any more stupidity passed. Nothing good ever comes out of single party rule.

Obama has been one of the worst presidents in history but I don't think Romney would be any better.

Last edited by Jay (2012-08-15 17:02:40)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Macbeth
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They took control of the house 2 years ago.
Macbeth
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Jay wrote:

Obama has been one of the worst presidents in history
This is why you don't have any credibility.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5577|London, England
Yep, but not before passing a trillion dollar stimulus package, bailing out GM and foisting Obamacare on us. Why didn't they overturn DADT (it took an executive order) or DOMA? The Democrats suck and all their talk about socially liberal issues is a bunch of bullshit. Obama promised to end the wars and he runs around bombing Libya and Yemen and Pakistan. He promised to respect the states on marijuana issues and then sent the DEA to shut down all the dispensaries. He promised to be more liberal on immigration and then deported the most people in our countries history. He talks a good game though.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5577|London, England

Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

Obama has been one of the worst presidents in history
This is why you don't have any credibility.
Ok.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13urnzz
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Jay wrote:

Yep, but not before passing a trillion dollar stimulus package,
uh, who was fed chairman, treasury secretary, president even when the stimulus was first announced? c'mon four years wasn't that long ago
13urnzz
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i remember mccain saying "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" before the election
Jay
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+2,006|5577|London, England

13urnzz wrote:

i remember mccain saying "the fundamentals of the economy are strong" before the election
They are strong. That didn't change with the recession.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13urnzz
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Jay wrote:

bailing out GM
yeah, shitty move there. good thing those GM motherfuckers repaid us, or WE WOULD HAVE DECLARED WAR!
Jay
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+2,006|5577|London, England

13urnzz wrote:

Jay wrote:

bailing out GM
yeah, shitty move there. good thing those GM motherfuckers repaid us, or WE WOULD HAVE DECLARED WAR!
They haven't repaid the government. The government still owns 500 million shares of GM stock.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
13urnzz
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Jay wrote:

He talks a good game though.
what a coincidence!
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin
That political spectrum quiz said I was a social libertarian, I was like wtf? Right moderate social libertarian to be exact.

Last edited by War Man (2012-08-15 19:49:31)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Cybargs
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War Man wrote:

That political spectrum quiz said I was a social libertarian, I was like wtf? Right moderate social libertarian to be exact.
ahahahahahaha lol warman
https://cache.www.gametracker.com/server_info/203.46.105.23:21300/b_350_20_692108_381007_FFFFFF_000000.png
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin
http://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/politi … -quiz.html

I used that which said I was a social libertarian

I just used the political compass and it shows
http://politicalcompass.org/printablegr … p;soc=2.87

I think the the former is a better quiz due to being more precise and lacking stupid questions.
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Jay
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+2,006|5577|London, England
Compass:

You are a far-right social libertarian.
Right: 8.59, Libertarian: 8.8
    
https://www.gotoquiz.com/politics/grid/37x38.gif

Surprise!
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Jay wrote:

Compass:

You are a far-right social libertarian.
Right: 8.59, Libertarian: 8.8
    


Surprise!
Didn't bother saving the picture, I do have the html coding though

You are a right moderate social libertarian.
Right: 4.33, Libertarian: 2.52



Anyway, "YOU ARE SUCH A RADICAL SCUMBAG!!!!"

Last edited by War Man (2012-08-15 21:13:32)

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Jay
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Quizzes like this are dumb. The only important part is the idea of the compass itself.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
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Economic Left/Right: -1.25
Social Libertarian/Authoritarian: -4.92

fucking website's broken and won't show me the graph lol
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
War Man
Australians are hermaphrodites.
+563|6933|Purplicious Wisconsin

Jay wrote:

Quizzes like this are dumb. The only important part is the idea of the compass itself.
Wonderful, but where is the line truly drawn in views?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5921|College Park, MD
got it https://politicalcompass.org/facebook/pcgraphpng.php?ec=-1.25&soc=-4.92
https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/36793/marylandsig.jpg
Jay
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War Man wrote:

Jay wrote:

Quizzes like this are dumb. The only important part is the idea of the compass itself.
Wonderful, but where is the line truly drawn in views?
It's all relative, which is why people that are generally close to each other politically argue so often. To Republicans, Obama is damn near a communist because they believe he is to their left. To Democrats, Romney is the monopoly man with his top hat, cane, and his penchant for evicting old ladies. In reality, they're not that far apart.

For the purposes of this compass, they define the extreme right as free market economics, and the extreme left at communism. The top is where Pol Pot or Hitler would be, and the bottom is where you'd find your anarchists.

Why I say the quiz is useless is because it's incredibly difficult to pinpoint where people would really sit on it. Most people could pick a quadrant, or the middle, and say they reside there, but beyond that, again, it's all based on their view point. Both Obama and Romney would sit in the upper right quadrant about 1/3 from the center line economically, and about halfway up the authoritarian line.

Last edited by Jay (2012-08-15 21:33:47)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6894|Canberra, AUS
yeah i still describe myself as centre-left despite that quiz putting me dead centre (occasionally into the purple)
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
AussieReaper
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The GOP are all about small government and fiscal responsibility. So ignore the DHS, the TSA, Iraq, Afghanistan, pretty much most of Bush's presidency in fact.

And they're totally for Libertarianism, just ignore women's rights, gay rights, illegals rights, voters rights.

Nah, the GOP need to reinvent themselves before I can take them seriously.

And to take the Dems seriously, they'd need to make good on actually delivering what they campaign on.
https://i.imgur.com/maVpUMN.png
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6894|Canberra, AUS
i don't like assange, i think him seeking asylum in ecuador is pretty telling (given their press freedoms) and he really should face what are fairly serious sexual assault charges...

...but threatening to storm the embassy? seriously, uk?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman

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