BF2S Forums You're the god of the NCAA. Ding Penn State.

13rin wrote:

I'd kill the program.

what would that accomplish

I think it would send a message that no program is exempt and that type of behavior is not tolerated.  Since there was a coverup to protect the program and the records, kill the program.

Last edited by 13rin (2012-07-22 18:02:25)

Penn State University will be hit with fines in excess of $30 million as part of "significant, unprecedented penalties" expected to be announced Monday by the National Collegiate Athletic Association, a source familiar with the case told CNN on Sunday.

While the school's football program will not face the so-called "death penalty" that would have prevented the team from playing in the fall, the school might have preferred a one-year suspension because of the severity of the scholarship losses, postseason sanctions and other penalties, the source said.

http://www.cnn.com/2012/07/22/us/penn-s … ?hpt=hp_t1


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Jay wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

13rin wrote:

I'd kill the program.

what would that accomplish

It would punish people who are no longer associated with the school very much...

It would force the school to reevaluate its administrative and campus culture.


Assuming anything even matters

Macbeth wrote:

Jay wrote:

Mutantbear wrote:

what would that accomplish

It would punish people who are no longer associated with the school very much...

It would force the school to reevaluate its administrative and campus culture.


Assuming anything even matters

Hitting the student body with $30M in fines for what the past administration did is completely ass backwards. That's what? $1,000 per student? Since when is it a sports councils right to act as judge and jury for an academic university? Yeah, the coverup was terrible, but try those people in court, don't punish the entire school. I hope the NCAA burns in hell.

we live in an all or nothing time, kill them to death or do nothing. choose. compromise is a dirty word, you can only choose extremism. right or wrong. there is no grey. black or white, it's right before you. there are no 'guilty parties', the baby must be tossed out with the bath water.

jesus wept, what in God's name is this even a thread for? are we to call for blood sacrifice next? an evil man, sheltered for awhile against prosecution for the love of football, and now members of a gaming forum get to pass judgement for nuclear war.

stupid fuckers.

go terps

Spearhead wrote:

Kill the program, or at least for 10 years or something.  People keep bringing up the fact that you'd be punishing other people as well.  I'm not so sure that even matters at this point.  There's no system in place to actually hold them accountable so just like with a little toddler, take away the candy.

Yes there is. It's called the criminal justice system. The abuse and subsequent coverup were off-field actions that really had nothing to do with the football program. It didn't help them win or lose or cheat or anything else. The bullshit just happened to take place mostly within the athletic department of a member school. The NCAA really should just butt the fuck out and let the people have their day in court.

The NCAA's job is to punish teams for stuff like cheating on the field, recruitment scandals and other crap like that. All of that stuff directly impacts the product that the team puts on the field. What happened in the locker room to those children did not. It's completely outside of the NCAAs scope to levy fines or punishment for criminal matters that had nothing to do with the field of play.

Spearhead wrote:

What you're missing here is the fact that the culture itself is on trial.  So in your mind, the NCAA should just pretend this didn't happen?  It's also their job to promote and uphold values within their system.  It's absolutely their right to do so.

Then kick the school out of the NCAA. They should not have the ability to levy a $30M fine.

I'm really not, by any means, defending Penn State. I just hate the NCAA with a passion. I think it has far too much power, and that the way it makes money off of college players that aren't even allowed to work a side job is sickening. I think the whole system should be abolished. It's supposed to be academics first, athletics second, and the NCAA has turned that on its head. This fine is just another example of that.

Last edited by Jay (2012-07-22 20:00:15)

eleven bravo wrote:

isnt the fine the withholding of scholarships?

http://deadspin.com/5928112/ncaa-may-fi … 60-million

Spearhead wrote:

Well I agree, and kicking them out of the NCAA would essentially be killing the program.

the NCAA oversees more than football, by all means kill the women's gymnastic progam because the defensive coordinator from the men's football team was raping little boys in the shower.