That's fantastic, never thought of it that way either.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
Thats pretty awesome
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If the human mind was simple enough to understand, we'd be too simple to understand it.Wreckognize wrote:
"I lay awake at night wondering whether we as a species are simply too stupid to figure out the universe we are investigating"
the use of comic sans to present one of the most important scientific discoveries of the century is just beyond words
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The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
So I just read that the Higgs Boson has been discovered
inane little opines
It hasn't.Shocking wrote:
So I just read that the Higgs Boson has been discovered
something has definitely been discovered, and it sure as hell look like a higgs, but they need to do more work on finding out its properties first.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
I must admit I felt a bit of a Twilight Zone moment when I read the Higgs Boson article and then thought "it's 2012..."
2011 - UK 2nd hottest/driest year on record, caused by global warming, a sign of what is to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16366078
2012 - UK wettest summer on record, caused by global warming, a sign of what is to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18783422
Coming soon: 2013 - UK most average on record, caused by global warming.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16366078
2012 - UK wettest summer on record, caused by global warming, a sign of what is to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18783422
Coming soon: 2013 - UK most average on record, caused by global warming.
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That just means that the climate is gonna change, and in many regions we can say good bye to the season that we have been used to.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
2011 - UK 2nd hottest/driest year on record, caused by global warming, a sign of what is to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-16366078
2012 - UK wettest summer on record, caused by global warming, a sign of what is to come.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-18783422
The climate has always changed, thats nothing new at all. The irony is that last year it was all about how global warming is causing droughts and "indian summer" became the buzzword. This year its all wrong, we have loads of rain and this is further evidence of global warming.
If you look back on the massive global warming thread, I was one of the cynics that refuted the global warming claims of massive droughts by stating that there will be more rainfall not less due to increased temperatures.
If you look back on the massive global warming thread, I was one of the cynics that refuted the global warming claims of massive droughts by stating that there will be more rainfall not less due to increased temperatures.
i'm just happy there was less snow to shovel from the driveway this year, and these record high temps have turned my lawn to a pleasing shade of tan, which requires less mowing.
Climate change is a drop in the bucket compared to the impact the Pacific oscillations have on the worlds weather anyway. But... that's an answer that vapid reporters feel is too complex for their supposedly retarded audiences. Much easier to boil it down to the most simplistic explanation, full of buzz words, so that even the lowest common societal denominator (usually the reporters themselves) doesn't feel alienated by his lack of knowledge.
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-Frederick Bastiat
tbf climate change is about extremes on small time scales, high averages on long time scales. definitely an oversimplification but
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
The rate of change in the last 100 years is a significant change to what the averages should have predicted.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
The climate has always changed, thats nothing new at all.
This isn't that difficult a concept.
It was sunny this week, therefore it will be sunny next week? Right?AussieReaper wrote:
The rate of change in the last 100 years is a significant change to what the averages should have predicted.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
The climate has always changed, thats nothing new at all.
This isn't that difficult a concept.
Larger changes have happened over smaller time scales in the past. In fact recent times are unique in having such a long period of climate stability.
I'm not debating whether the climate is changing or not (it always has and always will), im not even debating whether we are responsible (done to death) im merely highlighting that whatever weather we experience is immediately labelled as evidence of Human climate change. Whether it is dry/wet, hot/cold, more storms/less storms, it is always further proof.
It appears to be that there is no possible weather event that isn't labelled as evidence of global warming. The average is just that, an average, it is the sum of all the extreme values. Not every year is average, by definition some will be above and others will be below.
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See now you're confusing weather with climate.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
It was sunny this week, therefore it will be sunny next week? Right?AussieReaper wrote:
The rate of change in the last 100 years is a significant change to what the averages should have predicted.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
The climate has always changed, thats nothing new at all.
This isn't that difficult a concept.
Larger changes have happened over smaller time scales in the past. In fact recent times are unique in having such a long period of climate stability.
I'm not debating whether the climate is changing or not (it always has and always will), im not even debating whether we are responsible (done to death) im merely highlighting that whatever weather we experience is immediately labelled as evidence of Human climate change. Whether it is dry/wet, hot/cold, more storms/less storms, it is always further proof.
It appears to be that there is no possible weather event that isn't labelled as evidence of global warming. The average is just that, an average, it is the sum of all the extreme values. Not every year is average, by definition some will be above and others will be below.
We shouldn't have to explain such basic definitions. Pick up a dictionary.
Aussie, when you can understand anything that hasn't been fed to you by the media you can then condescend towards others. Until then, you're just an ignorant asshole. So please dazzle us with your understanding of math, science and engineering.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Climate change has the potential to make things like mild oceanic oscillations look like a drop in the bucket, by disrupting or radically changing oceanic flows.Jay wrote:
Climate change is a drop in the bucket compared to the impact the Pacific oscillations have on the worlds weather anyway. But... that's an answer that vapid reporters feel is too complex for their supposedly retarded audiences. Much easier to boil it down to the most simplistic explanation, full of buzz words, so that even the lowest common societal denominator (usually the reporters themselves) doesn't feel alienated by his lack of knowledge.
For example what do think would happen if the California Current stopped, reversed or changed direction?
I'm guessing it would drastically alter the climate and economy of the whole of the US west coast, just as reversal of the Gulf Stream would completely change Northern Europe.
But you'd know about these things if you knew anything about the subject, or any subject actually.
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Fuck Israel
Yep, the absolute worst case scenario is always the most likely. When I get in my car today, two 18 wheelers will instantly collide with my car crushing me between them.Dilbert_X wrote:
Climate change has the potential to make things like mild oceanic oscillations look like a drop in the bucket, by disrupting or radically changing oceanic flows.Jay wrote:
Climate change is a drop in the bucket compared to the impact the Pacific oscillations have on the worlds weather anyway. But... that's an answer that vapid reporters feel is too complex for their supposedly retarded audiences. Much easier to boil it down to the most simplistic explanation, full of buzz words, so that even the lowest common societal denominator (usually the reporters themselves) doesn't feel alienated by his lack of knowledge.
For example what do think would happen if the California Current stopped, reversed or changed direction?
I'm guessing it would drastically alter the climate and economy of the whole of the US west coast, just as reversal of the Gulf Stream would completely change Northern Europe.
But you'd know about these things if you knew anything about the subject, or any subject actually.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Its not the worst case scenario, its the scenario predicted with boring repetition and has been for decades.
Dilbert_X wrote:
But you'd know about these things if you knew anything about the subject
Fuck Israel
Like the one that said the antarctic ice was shrinking rapidly? Oh wait, it's actually growing.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat