west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
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you ever get it done? pics?

SEREMAKER wrote:


took a .410 single and modded it a bit ... shorten the barrel down to 14" and cut the buttstock to form a pistol grip

SEREMAKER wrote:

Next will be to petina the metal to give it that aged look.
also, did you ever get one?

SEREMAKER wrote:

put in order for 1 :



its probably going to be a few weeks due to back-orders but I'm not paying the inflated auction prices on gunbroker

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west-phoenix-az
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+632|6542
http://www.suntimes.com/news/crime/1348 … -camp.html

Group turns tables on Chicago gun turn-in, uses money for gun camp
BY FRANK MAIN Staff Reporter [email protected] June 30, 2012 4:44PM

A Downstate pro-gun group says it turned payouts from Chicago’s firearm buyback program last weekend into a fund-raiser for a youth summer camp — a National Rifle Association shooting camp, that is.

The city collected 5,500 guns last Saturday in the annual buyback. The city gave out $100 MasterCard gift cards for each gun and $10 cards for BB guns and replicas.

Sixty of the guns and several BB guns were turned in by the Champaign-based Guns Save Life. In return, the group received $6,240 in gift cards, said John Boch, president of the group.

Guns Save Life is known for the pro-gun signs the group posts along Interstate 57 between Chicago and Champaign. It also publishes a monthly gun journal.

Most of the money will go toward buying ammunition for an NRA youth camp in Bloomington. The rest will pay for four bolt-action rifles that will be given away to campers.

“This was rusty, non-firing junk that we turned in,” Boch said. “We are redirecting funds from people who would work against the private ownership of firearms to help introduce the next generation to shooting safely and responsibly.”

Despite the no-questions-asked policy of the buyback, police officials asked Guns Save Life members where they got their guns, Boch said. Still, the police officials allowed them to turn in their guns, he said.

Todd Vandermyde, the NRA’s chief lobbyist in Illinois, said Guns Save Life turned the tables on Chicago.

“I think it’s a very good example of the resourcefulness of the pro-gun side to take the initiative to turn something used by anti-gunners into a positive,” he said.

Vandermyde said he’s heard that gun-shop owners also have used the annual gun turn-in for profit.

Vandermyde said he was told one suburban gun dealer imported junk rifles for less than $50 each and received $100 gift cards for each of them.

“It’s comical,” he said.

But the city doesn’t think so.

“We host the gun turn-in event on an annual basis to encourage residents to turn in their guns so we can take guns off the street and it’s unfortunate that this group is abusing a program intended to increase the safety of our communities,” said Melissa Stratton, a police spokeswoman.

Boch said he doesn’t think the crooks who have pushed the number of Chicago’s homicides to 38 percent over last year’s total are the ones handing over their weapons.

“If you were a criminal, you would be a fool to go there with the police presence,” he said. “What criminal would turn in the tool he uses to do his trade for a $100 card?”
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KEN-JENNINGS
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what a bunch of assholes

cunning, but still assholes
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6598|The Land of Scott Walker
Chicago still hasn't learned it's not the gun that's the problem.  They're kidding themselves if they think they're going to take murder weapons off the streets by offering $100 in exchange. Also, while their murder rate climbs, Illinois still does not allow law abiding citizens to carry a concealed weapon.
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at murder rates
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KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,977|6785|949

do you think allowing CCW permits would lower the murder rate in Illinois?  I think it just makes people feel special.
_j5689_
Dreads & Bergers
+364|6870|Riva, MD
I read about that on guns.com

Some idiot supposedly even turned in an M60

It's obviously a really stupid idea just disarming the law-abiding retarded citizens for $100 a piece while the criminals of course would still choose to keep theirs, just tipping the gun balance in the city even more in favor of the criminals.  What a terrible Liberal shithole of a city, I hope Maryland never gets that bad
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6867|US

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

what a bunch of assholes

cunning, but still assholes
Meh, the antis are pissed that their "great" idea's only positive outcome was helping their opponents.
This happens to some extent at pretty much every one of these events.  It just usually isn't as organized.

The antis should really start getting the idea that their programs have unintended consequences!  Maybe they'd actually improve things and not aimlessly try to restrict other people's rights.
KEN-JENNINGS
I am all that is MOD!
+2,977|6785|949

its more because they bragged about it for me.  i think its a stupid program too.

both sides of this debate are stupid in their extremes
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

both sides of this debate are stupid in their extremes
yup

Raimius wrote:

The antis should really start getting the idea that their programs have unintended consequences
As do the pro-gunners actions.
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13rin
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KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

what a bunch of assholes

cunning, but still assholes
Not really.  They didn't come up with the plan. 

Guns =/= Bad m'ckay?


Stingray24 wrote:

Chicago still hasn't learned it's not the gun that's the problem.  They're kidding themselves if they think they're going to take murder weapons off the streets by offering $100 in exchange. Also, while their murder rate climbs, Illinois still does not allow law abiding citizens to carry a concealed weapon.
Yea.. Those founding fathers with those crazy ideals were clueless.


KEN-JENNINGS wrote:

do you think allowing CCW permits would lower the murder rate in Illinois?  I think it just makes people feel special.
I do think it would lower the murder rates.

https://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc-full.png
Graph constructed with data from:

a) Dataset: "Uniform Crime Reporting Program, District of Columbia, 1960-2008." Federal Bureau of Investigation, Criminal Justice Information Services Division. Data supplied to Just Facts on June 15, 2010. Data available upon request.

b) Article: "Homicide totals for 2009 plummet in District, Prince George's." By Allison Klein. Washington Post, January 1, 2010.

"The number of slayings last year in the District, once known as the murder capital of the United States, was 140, a 25 percent drop from 2008. ... The homicide numbers were compiled as of late Thursday night and could go up New Year's Eve, but any such increases are not likely to change the overall trend."

NOTE: By performing calculations with the data above (140 slayings in 2009, which is a 25% drop from 2008) and 2008 data from the FBI's Uniform Crime Reporting Program, Just Facts has determined that these "slayings" include both homicides and nonnegligent manslaughters, not just homicides.

c) Dataset: "Annual Estimates of the Resident Population for the United States, Regions, States, and Puerto Rico: April 1, 2000 to July 1, 2009." U.S. Census Bureau, December 2009. http://www.census.gov/popest/states/NST-ann-est.html

Population in DC as of July 1, 2009 = 599,657

d) Dataset: "Uniform Crime Reporting Program, United States, 1960-2008." Federal Bureau of Investigation, Criminal Justice Information Services Division. Data supplied to Just Facts on June 15, 2010. Data available upon request.

Dilbert_X wrote:

Raimius wrote:

The antis should really start getting the idea that their programs have unintended consequences
As do the pro-gunners actions.
umm...  Pro-gunners actions are all for responsible firearm ownership.  Taking them away from law abiding citizens does nothing more than tip the scales in favor of the criminal who wasn't following the law anyways.  But I'm sure that point has been made a few dozen times throught the course of this thread and many like it.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Dilbert_X
The X stands for
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https://www.justfacts.com/images/guncontrol/dc-full.png
The conclusion I draw from that graph is gun law and the murder rate are unrelated.

I'll bet there's better correlation with abortion.

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Cybargs
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Dilbert_X wrote:


The conclusion I draw from that graph is gun law and the murder rate are unrelated.

I'll bet there's better correlation with abortion.
somebody read freakonomics
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RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6867|US
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Less politics.

Last edited by RAIMIUS (2012-07-11 16:15:43)

rdx-fx
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Agreed.

Should move all gun politics to a D&ST thread, like Gun politics, firearms ownership, and US 2nd amendment discussion
Varegg
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Bought a new gun, well it's not exactly new ... .22LR Smith & Wesson model 41 :-)
Wait behind the line ..............................................................
RAIMIUS
You with the face!
+244|6867|US
Ooh...pics!
S&W 41s are some nice .22s!
west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6542
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M.O.A.B
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

I imagine with the minigun going the chair would spin around backwards.
FatherTed
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+3,936|6653|so randum

RAIMIUS wrote:

Ooh...pics!
S&W 41s are some nice .22s!
not as tasty as a lee enfield
Small hourglass island
Always raining and foggy
Use an umbrella
Monkey Spanker
Show it to the nice monkey.
+284|6405|England
Thinking of getting my firearms license back & getting a Lee Enfield Rifle No. 5 Mk I (Jungle Carbine) . Should be around £700. Weights in around 6.5lb unloaded & no scope & mounts.
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west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6542
What does it take to get a license there?
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Monkey Spanker
Show it to the nice monkey.
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

What does it take to get a license there?
It should be a bit easier for me as I used to have a license until 6 years ago when I handed it back in as it were( first of two children born & no money). I have to go through a full background check. I have to provide 2 referee's. I have to join a rifle/shooting club. I have to secure a gun safe of a certain grade to a wall, some police forces require that the bolt be removed from the rifle when it is stored & kept in a separate safe. I also have to keep all ammo in a separate safe away from the rifle as well. The police can & will ask to see the fire arm safe & ammo safe in situ before granting me a Fire arms cert. I also have to have a good reason to own the firearm as well IE pest control, deer culling on local land( if that is the case the police will ask the land owner if I have an invite to shoot on their land). Oh & the police can & will enter my house at anytime to check the firearm is safe & secure without notice(usually make an appointment). The whole process takes around 60-90 days for all the checks. This costs around £50 & if I wish to buy a sound moderator as they are called by the law in the UK I will have to pay £26 extra & again prove that I need it.

Oh & I can't have any sort of criminal conviction what so ever.

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west-phoenix-az
Guns don't kill people. . . joe bidens advice does
+632|6542
2 referee's?
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coke
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west-phoenix-az wrote:

2 referee's?
2 referrals from trustworthy folk, to say he isn't insane or something...

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