yep, not sure if the news just reached you but we do not have free health care in the states
Yah I know but this is my first first hand(ish) encounter with it. Just to think if I had to suddenly pay $6k for an urgent treatment I'd be up shit creek. Can't believe there are people who swear by a system like that in lieu of one where you are covered no matter what.
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yeah it's absolutely stupid. most places wouldn't deny you treatment if you couldn't pay, but it's not unheard of. my brother was mixed up in a fight and woke up in a hospital bed and a $1000 bill for something he had no control of. people care about money waaay too much in the US.
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My Dad's in America on business and just had to get emergency surgery on an ankle joint which became infected. Cost him $6000. Had the problem happened here in NZ it wouldn't have cost anything. He is lucky to be in a position to be able to pay immediately and have the company he works for reimburse him but holy Hell.
Money > everything else
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Ummm, there's this thing called health insurance? Something I shelled out $7K last year for my family? In that situation, that altercation would have been covered 100% since it involves a hospital stay.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
yeah it's absolutely stupid. most places wouldn't deny you treatment if you couldn't pay, but it's not unheard of. my brother was mixed up in a fight and woke up in a hospital bed and a $1000 bill for something he had no control of. people care about money waaay too much in the US.
BTW, could you pay for my insurance for the rest of the year. I mean, you don't care about money that much, right? It'll go for a good cause....
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Side note. A few years back, on vacation in Asia, my eldest son got an infection. Hospitalized for a few days. Relatively speaking, total cost was pretty high for third world stndards. And we had to pay in cash before treatment. You just have to have contingency to cover such things.
So, in NZ, if I get hurt there, not being a citizen/resident, the good ole social system will cover my bills, regardless of my economic station?
I don't think you understand how a public system is able to subsidise treatments since so many pay into the system. Thinking you are paying for someone else's treatment or they for yours is simply ridiculous.Ilocano wrote:
Ummm, there's this thing called health insurance? Something I shelled out $7K last year for my family? In that situation, that altercation would have been covered 100% since it involves a hospital stay.
BTW, could you pay for my insurance for the rest of the year. I mean, you don't care about money that much, right? It'll go for a good cause....
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And the amount you have to pay is again less since not everyone who pays into the system will take out until they get sick.
Who exactly loses from this situation? The insurance companies?
Yes, I'm quite familiar with national healthcare. No, I am not a proponent of it. But in any case, note the . smiley. I wasn't being serious.
How about the last part, though? What about non-citizens/residents?
How about the last part, though? What about non-citizens/residents?
Depends what citizenship you old. Aus has reciprocal healthcare agreements with UK, NZ and a few EU countries all I have to do is show my medicare card if I get sick in those countries. For non-citizens there's private health insurance in aus and it isn't that pricey, something like 2500 a year per person which covers what medicare has.Ilocano wrote:
Yes, I'm quite familiar with national healthcare. No, I am not a proponent of it. But in any case, note the . smiley. I wasn't being serious.
How about the last part, though? What about non-citizens/residents?
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/custome … agreements
The Australian Government has agreements with New Zealand, the United Kingdom, the Republic of Ireland, Sweden, the Netherlands, Finland, Italy, Belgium, Malta, Slovenia and Norway.
http://www.humanservices.gov.au/spw/cor … cards.html
for intl students
International students are required by the Department of Immigration and Citizenship
to purchase overseas student health cover (OSHC) as part of their student visa
requirements. OSHC provides similar cover to Medicare with the addition of
ambulance and limited pharmaceuticals.
http://www.health.gov.au/internet/main/ … /65_08.pdf
but usually you do need a form of travelers insurance if you're on a visit.
Don't think so, as you're not a citizen.Ilocano wrote:
So, in NZ, if I get hurt there, not being a citizen/resident, the good ole social system will cover my bills, regardless of my economic station?
Fuck Israel
And so, in a round about way, the same $6K bill for emergency surgery for any tourist for first world treatment, excepting reciprocal agreements.
pretty much. that's why you buy travelers insurance unless your government would foot in the bill for overseas hospital treatmentsIlocano wrote:
And so, in a round about way, the same $6K bill for emergency surgery for any tourist for first world treatment, excepting reciprocal agreements.
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
Fuck Israel
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
Wife gets paid rather well working in the medical field, so...Cybargs wrote:
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
But, chipped a molar awhile back. Recently chipped again, exposing the root. $950 for entire root canal, sealant, attachment procedure. That's after insurance paid 50%.
holy fuck shit lol.Ilocano wrote:
Wife gets paid rather well working in the medical field, so...Cybargs wrote:
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
But, chipped a molar awhile back. Recently chipped again, exposing the root. $950 for entire root canal, sealant, attachment procedure. That's after insurance paid 50%.
i think theres a more deeper issue in US healthcare than private vs social, don't you guys have a problem with interstate health care?
lost two front teeth, got them replaced every 2 years (lost them when i was 13, too young for permanent replacements) and now i can have full-on fakes put inIlocano wrote:
Wife gets paid rather well working in the medical field, so...Cybargs wrote:
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
But, chipped a molar awhile back. Recently chipped again, exposing the root. $950 for entire root canal, sealant, attachment procedure. That's after insurance paid 50%.
cost to me = £0.00
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Yes, before I even posted yesterday. Anyway, Wisconsin FUCK YEAH!!! Just concerned with the Wangguard vs Lehman battle for State Senate.AussieReaper wrote:
Did you vote today warman?
That'd be fraud.RTHKI wrote:
his parents voted for him
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
that's horrible dental insurance. I paid $0 for a root canal and crown on friday. Actually I paid $8.00 for painkillers and antibioticsIlocano wrote:
Wife gets paid rather well working in the medical field, so...Cybargs wrote:
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Costs eleswhere are typically much lower, say 1/3rd the cost of the US for UK and Aus.
But, chipped a molar awhile back. Recently chipped again, exposing the root. $950 for entire root canal, sealant, attachment procedure. That's after insurance paid 50%.
I chose the cheaper preventive plan. Family plan. Works out cheaper if nothing major happened. But something major happened. Molar is 50%. But if it were Anterior or Bicuspid, it would have convered 80%.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
that's horrible dental insurance. I paid $0 for a root canal and crown on friday. Actually I paid $8.00 for painkillers and antibioticsIlocano wrote:
Wife gets paid rather well working in the medical field, so...Cybargs wrote:
US pays more per capita on healthcare than anywhere in the world.
But, chipped a molar awhile back. Recently chipped again, exposing the root. $950 for entire root canal, sealant, attachment procedure. That's after insurance paid 50%.
Crazy that we both had it last Friday though.
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Why are molars covered less?
If I didn't have dental insurance and fucked up a tooth I wouldn't even bother with the outrageous prices required for procedures. Life w/o a tooth ain't so bad. Yank and pray.
If I didn't have dental insurance and fucked up a tooth I wouldn't even bother with the outrageous prices required for procedures. Life w/o a tooth ain't so bad. Yank and pray.
and follow that up with some fun fun fun gum disease!
don't be a moron, teeth are somewhat important
don't be a moron, teeth are somewhat important
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Gum disease is easily avoided by keeping your mouth clean.
Last edited by Superior Mind (2012-06-06 10:57:08)
it's quite hard to avoid with a hole where you had a tooth
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I had my wisdom teeth pulled since they had grown in all the way. The resulting hole healed by itself.
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