Sure, if you don't think about it for more than two seconds Edit: at all.Macbeth wrote:
Nah.That is just really stupid. Amazingly stupid.You don't define a clear cut case of breaking and entering, just like you don't define a clear cut case of rape. It's a matter of consent, and estabilishing consent is always a matter of credibility, and never irrefutable.
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I didn't realize how high the rate of error was.DrunkFace wrote:
Bull fucking shit.-Sh1fty- wrote:
The chances of somebody getting wrongly accused of a murder are very very slim.http://www.caught.net/innoc.htmDNA tests used before trial have exonerated at least 5000 prime suspects out of the first 18,000 DNA suspect samples at the FBI and other crime labs-suggesting a pre-trial error rate of more than 25 percent. Since 1977, some 553 people have been executed in the United States while another eighty death row inmates have been released after they were found innocent. For every seven executed, one innocent person is freed-an “error rate” of more than twelve (12) percent. In the State of Illinois, 12 people have been executed since 1977 while 13 have been released after proving their innocence-an error rate of 52 percent.http://www.truthandjusticedenied.com/Wr … atist.htmlThe United States Department of Justice, Bureau of Justice Statistics, admits that statistically 8% to 12% of all state prisoners are either actually or factually innocent.at least 123 people have been wrongfully convicted and sentenced to death since 1977https://www.aclu.org/capital-punishment … enalty-101Since 1973, 138 death-row prisoners have been released because they were innocent. In addition, at least ten people have been executed since 1976 even though they were probably innocent
I don't care how certain you are or what crime someone committed, capital punishment is not the answer.
We're talking about law, Macbeth, not your personal, subjective interpretation of a crime. You can't obfuscate the mechanics of law by arguing that you personally feel that something is indisputable.Macbeth wrote:
It's total nonsense. That is all there is to it. There are clear cut cases of rape and robbery. You can't obfuscate the mechanics of a rape by arguing the credibility of the denial of consent.
Reminds me of this book
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fashionable_Nonsense
There isn't any way to prove anything with 100% certaintly, DNA can be planted for a start. For every murder half a dozen crazy people will have phoned up claiming to have done it, ask a Police officer on a murder squad.Sh1fty wrote:
If there was a way to prove a person was guilty of murder, with 100% certainty in a perfect world, wouldn't you agree they should be executed? Why should a person be able to continue to live after ending somebody else's life.
Yes.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Ok let me put it this way smartass.
If a person kills another, do you believe the individual who committed the murder has a right to live after he ended another person's life?
So you're not planning to shoot anyone while you're in the Marines?Sh1fty wrote:
I still think people like the guy who killed 77 in Norway should have just been shot in each joint and slowly boiled alive.
I might be required to do so. I don't see how being required to kill for one's country is the same as some dick killing unarmed children. Trollbert, or derpbert, pick your poisonDilbert_X wrote:
So you're not planning to shoot anyone while you're in the Marines?Sh1fty wrote:
I still think people like the guy who killed 77 in Norway should have just been shot in each joint and slowly boiled alive.
You're as self-righteous and sick in the head as he is.
Was going to pick you up on this but its moot really. Executioners, soldiers etc are going to have a pretty high turn over rate.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Ok let me put it this way smartass.
If a person kills another, do you believe the individual who committed the murder has a right to live after he ended another person's life?
You're trolling, you're clearly using a non sequitur, and you know about as much regarding why people join the military as Shifty knows about sex.Dilbert X wrote:
You're volunteering, you clearly get off on guns and righteous killing, you're no different.
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Yeah Dilbert you clearly know every reason I want to join the U.S. military. I'm so glad you're around here to judge me and others from thousands of miles away without ever having spoken to me.Dilbert_X wrote:
Yeah but I'm talking specifically about Sh1fty, the Christian equivalent of the Madrassa-educated one-eyed zealot.
