BF2S Forums [Guild Wars 2] Discussion

where are you getting this from? as far as i can tell there are epic and progressively better items in this game. just you have to do endgame pve instances for them.

Did you try using a zero instead of an o?

i don't really see a problem with that. there will see be a top level of gear, just its main difference will be in stat-specialism instead of item-level. what's the problem? they're just trying to create as even a playing field as possible. guild wars focus has always been on excellent and balanced pvp, remember? as competitive as possible. basically the state-of-play that blizzard fucked up WoW trying to achieve, implementing huge hp pools and that terrible gameplay mechanic: resilience. guild wars 2 will just be built from the ground-up to be as balanced and as skill-based as possible.

yeah i'll miss the days of being able to one-shot people on my r14 character in WoW, or being able to win 3v1 battles because of my crazy damage output and good PvP-gear stamina. but you can still do that in guild wars 2... using your actual skill, instead of relying on gear. it's different, that's for sure... but then again, so is everything about gw2. you're already taking a big chance with the game from level 1 onwards, so why be so apprehensive about this part? stop expecting a WoW clone.

"in every single successful rpg released in the past few years"... guild wars didn't have a gear treadmill.

i think you'll find this is a sequel to that game.

ta-da!

oh and people were still playing guild wars hardcore and competing in PvP years after it was released. i wonder why that is? hmmm. if the only incentive for you to play is to get new epics, you will forever be chasing something you do not have. just look at WoW. get all the gear and then 2 months later there's a new instance and you're just farming mindlessly for the drop-% of new gear again. do you never stop to ask yourself why? just why you are spending all of your time doing it? you never get any 'better' as a player, and the instances never really get any 'harder'. you're just hooked into this pattern of upgrading your character's gear. it's a pointless distraction away from the fact that the pvp/pve itself is lacklustre. for myself personally, as soon as i had the rank10+ gear in WoW's PvP, the gear become totally sidelined and ancillary; it wasn't the point. i didn't continue pvp'ing after reaching my desired rank because i merely 'had the best gear'. i carried on playing because the competition itself was fun. why don't you feel that way?

the incentive to continue playing in guild wars is to get more skill and become higher-ranked in PvP. to distinguish yourself by skill and not by how much time you've spent locked into a zoned-instance farming the same bosses over and over. again, if you want to distinguish yourself by gear, there will be shiny items that will give you /braggingrights to all other players. except getting that gear doesn't = auto-win button in gw2. it still conveys the prestige of being a 'good' player, but you still have to try and actually be good in PvP to win fights. what's the problem? shouldn't be so difficult for you if you're a skilled and hardcore player, one who knows how to play his class. no? having the gear do all the work for you is lazy.

guild wars has plenty compelling reason enough to play for a long period of time. gw1 had an excellent community long after its release and it wasn't even an MMO.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-19 03:47:50)

exactly. you reached max level in guild wars within 2 weeks and after that the only gear to farm for was stat-specialisation or cosmetic (just like in gw2 it seems). people played that game for years afterwards. the pvp was intense and had a highly developed and skilled community. endlessly dangling the gear-carrot in front of players' faces is not the only way to give your game longevity.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-19 03:50:01)

there are area of effect and special abilities that classes can put down to heal/buff one another, yes. situationally, normally. i don't think there's an equivalent of the WoW flash-heal, though. oh and the most support-type class is probably the guardian, but it's not exactly confined to healing and support.

Last edited by Uzique (2012-04-19 04:39:47)

Norn guardian i think

Uzique wrote:

i don't think they're necessarily geniuses, haha. they don't have the +int racial like gnomes do in WoW.

my main Wow character was a gnome rogue though, because it's by far the most humiliating race/class combo to get stomped by in PvP.

i might continue and go asura thief. but i'm also interested in playing a mesmer for pvp.

mesmer does seem like the most interesting class for PvP, but i'm not going to start off with it. Something familiar like thief, warrior or guardian is probably what i'll end up strating with and then maybe move to mesmer later.

FFLink wrote:

What's everyone gonna be?

I'm thinking one of those tiny genius things. As an Engineer D:

Asura?

Me: probably norn guardian. The charr look irritating.

hardcore

The future of gaming is here

FFLink wrote:

It's an MMO. They all have shit launches.

Headstarts don't seem like bonuses in these games, anymore. Just last-minute server tests.

haha, exactly.

It's not "pre-launch early access", it's "crash test dummy before official launch date"

The issues seem to have been fixed, which is actually faster than most mmo releases, but we'll just see how it goes on the actual release date.

So far the PvE feels really simple. There really isnt that much to tell about it other than that it is slightly more entertaining tha. The standard kill 100 pigs.
But the pvp is great fun. I havent really tried wvwvwvw yet, but the regular pvp is some really good stuff.