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Nick and Justin would make a cute couple

wrapped cars look terrible 99% of the time

FatherTed wrote:

another please

MONROVIA - New tobacco shops are being smoked out for now by an urgency moratorium the city imposed last week.
After several residents expressed concerns, the City Council voted 4 to 1 to impose a 45-day moratorium on the licensing of new smoke shops or tobacco stores. The temporary ban does not affect existing businesses and will allow city staff to explore what permanent restrictions can be imposed on new shops in the future.

"Our concern is what they sell and ... how we are responsible for it," Mayor Mary Ann Lutz said. "I'll use the example of topless bars. We cannot ban those outright from our city but we have the ability to say where their businesses can be placed."

There are currently two tobacco shops open in the city. A third shop at 512 S. Myrtle Ave. received its license last month and is expected to open soon, said Craig Jimenez, the city's planning division manager.

"We're looking at right now what the different options are, how state law regulates these uses," Jimenez said. "We need to make sure any regulations we put into place are not in conflict with state law."

Those who work and live in the city have mixed views on the subject.

Resident Pam Fitzpatrick, owner of Dollmakers in Old Town, said she supports the moratorium and hopes that further restrictions will be put in place.

Fitzpatrick said she is particularly concerned by the sale of "legal spice" - also called synthetic cannabis -

and pipes that can be used to smoke marijuana or other illegal drugs at these shops.
Most area smoke shops sell spice - which is said to make users high - to adults.

"I'm not concerned about a shop that opens up that wants to open a business and sell cigarettes and cigars," Fitzpatrick said. "I'm concerned about drug abuse. I'm concerned about all the unsavory behavior it can bring in."

But Omner Meza, who works in Old Town and buys his cigars in Ontario, said he didn't understand the fuss.

"If (their products) are all legal, what's the problem?" he said.

His colleague Manny Aceves, who also works in Old Town, agreed.

"Why don't you just ban 7-11 because they sell alcohol?" he said. "Teenagers or young minors can purchase this illegally."

Resident Jamie Holes said she was also concerned about "drug paraphernalia" winding up in the hands of children. Holes argued that spice is harmful and has resulted in emergency room visits and negative side effects.

"I think the city needs to decide or the community needs to decide how many (tobacco shops) is enough," she said. "How much drug paraphernalia do we want to be sold?"

Monrovia Police Chief Jim Hunt said the state outlawed five different compounds of synthetic cannabis in January.

Manufacturers have been changing one or several molecules so that these compounds are no longer illegal.

"The problem is these compounds - the ones they have outlawed - were making people sick," Hunt said. "Who knows what will happen with these derivatives that have been created."

But Rick, an employee at Gift Shop of Exotic's LLC who declined to give his last name, called the desire to put restrictions on tobacco shops "Orwellian."

"We have enough Big Brother already, don't we?" he said.

The City Council will likely be given the option to extend the ban further and ultimately will be presented with options to amend the city's ordinance. A public hearing is expected to take place next month on the matter, Jimenez said

i live next to a police heliport

do you go around taking photos of helicopters all the time? do you have a favourite helicopter designer?

how is it that western civilization has been advancing for 21 centuries and now we sit around fapping over stupid fucking automobiles

in the words of charles bukowski, you people are already dead. your minds are full of fucking cotton.

it was funny because my friends house lived in an apartment building right between the police helipad and the california highway patrol station and his apartments were the spot for all sorts of gangster shit

and favourite car designer was a bit of a poor choice of words, i don't know many car designers so it doesn't mean much, but he designed my favourite car and i've been loosely following his work for a few years and i like what he does for the most part

Dauntless wrote:

and favourite car designer was a bit of a poor choice of words, i don't know many car designers so it doesn't mean much, but he designed my favourite car and i've been loosely following his work for a few years and i like what he does for the most part

yeah but the sad thing is you've probably been following a car designer or fashion designer more these last few years than anything with any considerable substance. have you been following the work of umberto eco over the last few years? or any other significant thing? or is it just all overpriced italian jeans and cars driven by extras from the only way is essex. sounds like settling into a career of being a consumer mong to me.

Superior Mind wrote:

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what you mean is you're Dauntless happy

i'm just glad i don't have a favourite car designer. or drive around with a handycam ready to take some sweet models and plates down. that would be an early indication that the only thing i should be filling my head with from that point on is .45 calibre rounds.

Kid sitting next to me is reading Nietzsche's birth of tragedy. It's the worst of all of Nietzsche's books.