First World Problems

2012-04-10 08:19:36

#2126

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5731

Uzique wrote:
napoleon was a soldier of fortune pretty much, but he is an important figure in french national history - not really so much italian. the circumstances of his birth and his raising probably say more about opportunism and historical contingency more than anything. also i don't really think a person's accent should be the work of a high-rate historian - not unless the analysis is very linguistically sound - for e.g. many people born in scotland/glasgow have irish accents, but will still consider themselves scottish to the point of killing someone with a scottish accent over it. accents and nationalities aren't so easily pinholed.

Mclynn is an Oxford educated historian.

directly from the book

https://static.bf2s.com/files/user/47545/accent.png

6 mentions in a 750+ page book.

2012-04-10 08:20:43

#2127

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

Yes, but which Italian accent?

There are still many local dialects that have not been squashed by nationalist efforts in Europe.

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2012-04-10 08:20:45

#2128

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Yes reductive to say he was Italian. But not French is the thing people have to focus in on.

2012-04-10 08:20:46

#2129

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

that sardinian girl was so fine

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2012-04-10 08:21:06

#2130

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

Superior Mind wrote:
Yes, but which Italian accent?

albanian

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2012-04-10 08:21:08

#2131

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6616

my point was that dialect and accents can take generations to linguistically mutate. a political allegiance can shift overnight. i wouldn't put too much weight on a guy's born-accent.

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2012-04-10 08:22:30

#2132

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

stalin had a georgian accent

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2012-04-10 08:23:11

#2133

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

Stalin was Georgian.

If Napoleon was from Corsica, he probably spoke Corsican, no?

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2012-04-10 08:23:31

#2134

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6616

georgia nowadays valorizes stalin despite the history

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2012-04-10 08:24:42

#2135

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

Superior Mind wrote:
Stalin was Georgian.

If Napoleon was from Corsica, he probably spoke Corsican, no?

so was carter

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2012-04-10 08:25:00

#2136

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Uzique wrote:
georgia nowadays valorizes stalin despite the history

Vlad the Impaler is a national hero in Romania.

2012-04-10 08:25:24

#2137

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

Love dat Georgian sour-cherry juice.

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2012-04-10 08:26:34

#2138

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

The past is so interesting. I'm pretty sure I have Mongolian raep in my blood.

I'm also a quarter Romanian. Hail Vlad.

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2012-04-10 08:26:55

#2139

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

peanut farming in the caucasian mountains

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2012-04-10 08:27:44

#2140

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

Gorsky

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2012-04-10 08:30:35

#2141

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

carter also served on a nuclear submariner

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2012-04-10 08:31:35

#2142

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

So why did he get such a bad wrap?

Sounds like a pretty legit guy.

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2012-04-10 08:33:31

#2143

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6737

Superior Mind wrote:
So why did he get such a bad wrap?

Sounds like a pretty legit guy.

Good man, good ethics, good intentions, intelligent, and well educated.

Completely incapable of leading the traveling circus of sharks that was/is the D.C. political system.

2012-04-10 08:35:29

#2144

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5405|foggy bottom

Superior Mind wrote:
So why did he get such a bad wrap?

Sounds like a pretty legit guy.

OPEC

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2012-04-10 08:36:32

#2145

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6616

rdx-fx wrote:
well educated.

carter took engineering at suny maritime too?!? galt will be thrilled!¬!!

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2012-04-10 08:39:01

#2146

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

That's a good fwp.

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2012-04-10 08:39:35

#2147

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5731

People on the internet don't respect my college education /fwp

2012-04-10 08:41:03

#2148

Superior Mind: (not macbeth); +1,755|6838

I kinda wish I went to SUNY Maritime. I've always wanted to work on the open ocean. I guess it's not too late. fwp.

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2012-04-10 08:41:17

#2149

rdx-fx: ...; +955|6737

The larger the Leviathan of a bureaucratic government, the bigger the asshole needed to lead it.

Fundamental problem of large government.
Look at Russia.
You need a ruthless asshole like Putin (or Stalin) to keep that mess of corrupt self-serving bureaucrats in order.

This, to me, explains why the US ends up with a parade of egotistical megalomaniacs for President.
Last time we elected a 'nice guy', the DC political sharks ate him up like he was chum in the water.

Also explains why the only functional governments in the middle east are centered on individuals.
Their social structure needs a strong dictator, or strong monarch to lead their inevitably corrupt (bak'shish driven) governments.
A weaker head of state ends in stagnantly ineffective government, and a horribly corrupt patchwork of petty feifdoms based on bribery and influence peddling.

2012-04-10 08:41:19

#2150

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6616

lol i'm willing to bet any president not educated in the sciences would not receive any sort of encomium on this forum.

little comments like that are telling. pres went to harvard/yale and got a law or humanities degree? d.c. scumbag

went to a military college? "well educated"

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