Dilbert_X
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FEOS wrote:

Of course it should have, if there is material evidence that it could have affected the proximate cause of the explosion. To just introduce things that serve no purpose other than to cloud the issue doesn't help justice in any way.
Incorrect, if it introduces 'reasonable doubt' then its relevant and admissable. The defence should at least have been told about it.
We moved on from the idea that the state controls the prosecution and defence some time ago.
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Of course it should have, if there is material evidence that it could have affected the proximate cause of the explosion. To just introduce things that serve no purpose other than to cloud the issue doesn't help justice in any way.
Incorrect, if it introduces 'reasonable doubt' then its relevant and admissable. The defence should at least have been told about it.
We moved on from the idea that the state controls the prosecution and defence some time ago.
You missed the part where I said "affected the proximate cause".

Clouding the issue and reasonable doubt are different things.
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Dilbert_X
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Clouding the issue and reasonable doubt are different things.
Sometimes, sometimes not.
In this case the information directly raised reasonable doubt and should have been provided to the defence.
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Harmor
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Oopsie...Obama knew about bomber release:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla … lease.html
FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Clouding the issue and reasonable doubt are different things.
Sometimes, sometimes not.
In this case the information directly raised reasonable doubt and should have been provided to the defence.
In the US, that conviction would've likely been thrown out because of it.
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Dilbert_X
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More likely he would never have been convicted in the first place.
Oh wait he would have been tortured for five years and released without charge
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FEOS
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Dilbert_X wrote:

More likely he would never have been convicted in the first place.
Oh wait he would have been tortured for five years and released without charge
Not back then. And not unless he was captured on the battlefield in Afghanistan or Iraq (mostly).

As to the point, whether the information was proven material or not, keeping it from the defense would've been construed a violation of discovery, thus providing one hell of an opportunity for appeal after the conviction.

That doesn't mean he would've necessarily gone free, mind you. Only that an appeal would've been pretty easy to justify.
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Dilbert_X
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Maybe he would have got out on appeal, maybe not.
Maybe he was guilty, its not proven thats for sure.
As likely as not he was let out to avoid the embarrassment his ongoing appeal would have caused.
http://www.guardian.co.uk/uk/2001/jun/1 … ie.comment
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Harmor wrote:

Oopsie...Obama knew about bomber release:
http://atlasshrugs2000.typepad.com/atla … lease.html
Not until everyone else knew. Being kept informed by the British government (who were not the ones who made the decision - the Scottish legal system is separate and controlled by the SNP, a party that opposes the Labour government and is unlikely to be doing them any favours) is nothing like what it sounds like you are suggesting.
Dilbert_X
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http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-scotland-s … s-17198577

Scottish Justice Secretary Kenny MacAskill has denied claims he or the SNP government were involved in a deal over the Lockerbie bomber's release.

A new book claimed ministers urged Abdelbasset al-Megrahi to drop his appeal against conviction in exchange for compassionate release.

But Mr MacAskill told the Scottish Parliament: "These claims are wrong".

Megrahi, who is terminally ill with cancer, was released from prison in Scotland in 2009 by Mr MacAskill.

Labour, the Tories and Lib Dems said there were still unanswered questions on the case, including a decision by the justice secretary to visit Megrahi in prison and details of the medical advice given to the government on the convicted bomber's health before his release.

The Libyan is the only person convicted of the bombing of Pan Am flight 103 in December 1988.

Shortly before being freed, the Libyan dropped his second appeal against conviction.
He was released to avoid the CIA being embarassed over their flaky evidence.

ie

http://news.stv.tv/scotland/299221-lock … -evidence/

Much easier to fudge a release and avoid an appeal than admit they still have no idea who carried out the bombing and they convicted and imprisoned a man on no evidence.
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