helll dude if i was u i woulda beat the shit outa that fool that "hallad" at ur girl....and i dnt blame u for what you did......hell evertime they started shit wit me id f***ck em up......trust me its not racest if ur not doing ne thing and they are pushing u to do shit like that
*They*?
"They" as in the thugs that have been making my existence rather unpleasant for the past 6 months.Bubbalo wrote:
*They*?
I beleive that is what he is trying to say.
Sounds to me like Bubbalo wants our society to be a socialist piece of trash. You'd like to get rid of any sort of competition because it lets the losers know that they are simply that, LOSERS!
LOL!! I've had extremely intelligent friends who were very liberal in the same sense that Bubbalo is, and after having first hand encounters with certain ethnic groups(teaching at highschools in impoverished areas) their views took a drastic turn.
Why don't you explain to us what your first hand experience has been, or is there any.
I'm betting there's none - hence the reason for your insanely idealistic views.
LOL!! I've had extremely intelligent friends who were very liberal in the same sense that Bubbalo is, and after having first hand encounters with certain ethnic groups(teaching at highschools in impoverished areas) their views took a drastic turn.
Why don't you explain to us what your first hand experience has been, or is there any.
I'm betting there's none - hence the reason for your insanely idealistic views.
I'm sorry, my views are idealistic? I'm not the one going on about America's Utopian society. *Your* society by the way. And the way I see it you can't go down from capitalist piece of trash. Oooh, look, I can call your ideas bad names too! Shock! Horror!
Your limited response tells me all I need to know.
That I'm Australian and I acknowledge the fact that America isn't a Utopia?
sigh...
There is no need to waste time debating with a biased individual. As they will never change their stance, no matter how much evidence you provide that proves them wrong.
There is no need to waste time debating with a biased individual. As they will never change their stance, no matter how much evidence you provide that proves them wrong.
What evidence?
Bubalo, Ive been to your country, Lived there And worked there. Ive seen the extreme side of racism in your own country first hand. Your Ghetto's and impovished sections of your big citys make us look like saints. Ive built 100's of miles of roads in your country working from a bulldoser, been through some real bad places. Your country is no better than Ours when it comes to racism, so please Stop already. I was in your country for 3 years(back in 1986 untill almost 1990) until i Joined the Air force then got called to Iraq. Ive honestly seen Nicer slums in Kewait. Sorry if i sound harsh and judgemental, But ive been there done that and feel i have the right to be seeing ive lived in your country.
?????? Racism in San Fran? Your jokeing right? If it were racism it was from the homesexuals than. Or the Latinos. Sure as hell wasnt the white folk. San Fran is the single most Liberal and tollerent City in the US, so His reasons are whacked to begin with. me personally, wouldnt shed a tear if CA and all its Transplants Sunk into the Pacific tomarrow from an earthquake. Liberals, Scinentology and Tom Cruise is enough for me to dislike the Place LOL.Pubic wrote:
One of my lecturers a few years ago was a black guy who had moved over here from the USA. He gave a number of reasons for leaving but said by far that the two biggest were that UoC offered him tenure, and the other was the racism, in San Francisco. The only other black american I've met sells meth for a living, but apart from that is quite a decent guy and funny as hell to hit the piss with.
Headstone: We don't *have* ghettos. The most impoverished racial group here are Aboriginals, most of whom live in outback communities. I don't know *what* the hell you just described, but it wasn't Australia. *Yes* we have issues, but they are *very* different to the ones you describe.
Never happen becuase as a culture we are independent minded and don't seek aid from others.topthrill05 wrote:
As someone said in another thread the whites are next to be opressed.
Right.........and so you asked for France's help to beat the British, why?
Oh for fuck's sake, Nice job going way out of context of an event and even further off topic. Thanks.Bubbalo wrote:
Right.........and so you asked for France's help to beat the British, why?
He claimed that whites are independently minded. I showed him they weren't. I suppose I should also point out that the comment is racist in and of itself.
I've gotta jump in and defend Aus here......<[onex]>Headstone wrote:
Yup, But guess what, Its those same people the original poster is talking about that Cause the deaths with the guns. Its not the guns that Kill its the people behind them. Yup, Ive been to your fine country(founded By the british as a prison colony) And found Just as many gun toteing austrailian rednecks in the outback while building roads. I guess Your people still dont discriminate against the aboriginise sp? peoples of your country(your ancestors STOLE there land also). Slavery runs DEEP in your countrys past also. The mass murders of the native peoples back in the late 1800's is proof of that. So please get off the high horse and face the fact that you are no different than any american.Bubbalo wrote:
Oh, yes, you've got us there. Oh how I wished in a country with all those gun deaths. Oh how I wish I were targetted by terrorists the world over. And oh how I wish I could live in the birthplace of Scientology.
Can you smell the sarcasm? 'Cos it's so palpable I can feel it.
1) SLAVERY NEVER HAPPENED IN AUSTRALIA... Just some messed up Eugenics... There were bugger all mass murders too (unless you count the introduction of foreign diseases to the Aboriginal population, which was not intentional...)... Just skirmishes..... Usually provoked by the English, I'll admit....
2) Governor Arthur Phillip actually bought the land.... Read some history books.....
3) Native title laws.... I'm not sure the US of A has anything like this, but in short it means that Aboriginals can claim back many sacred and/or ancestral lands.... And they have been doing so for a long time.....
4) Australia has a very different take on social programs... Work for the doll scheme, stuff like that....
5) Our Constitution and our democratic system run very differently... One of the main differences is the fact that it is ILLEGAL not to vote....
6) I currently clean a GOVERNMENT FUNDED ABORIGINAL HEALTH CLINIC (Aboriginal run too, they do some great work in education on the side...).... That is right, free health care for them if they can't afford it....
For the record, I live in one of those outback communities Bubbalo mentioned.... Nhulunbuy NT, home of inequality in Australia (don't belive me... Run some figures on the ALCAN Gove mining project...)
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Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
I hate that dipshit too.... Steve Irwin is an idiot...{BMF}*Frank_The_Tank wrote:
Well to be fair...I hate the crocodile hunter, so does that mean i hate all Australians? I need an answer damn it!!! Someone tell me how to think and live my life. lol
@original topic...
Cougar, you are justified in your opinions. That is clear. As for the beating you handed out, well... Maybe you taught somebody a lesson, maybe you didn't....
I'm not racist (I don't think I am...), I do have something against those that use their race as an excuse though... Many of my indigenous friends here have used the fact that they are indigenous as an excuse for doing bad at school... I've tried my very best to inform them that the colour of their skin has fuck all to do with their appalling marks and that it is because they don't pay attention.
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
He has a point Bubbalo.... Waaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaay out of context.....IRONxWyvern wrote:
Oh for fuck's sake, Nice job going way out of context of an event and even further off topic. Thanks.Bubbalo wrote:
Right.........and so you asked for France's help to beat the British, why?
Whoa... Can't believe these forums are still kicking.
Well maybe he could stop inferring that whites have different personality traits to non-whites, and then I'll talk within his bounds. Until then, I shall say whatever I want.
The history books will pretty clearly show that slaves were being sold out of Africa long before the demand of the west. Once again, everyone inacurately looks at America and says 'Hey it's their fault.' Not so my friend. Europe was a huge supporter of slavery well before America got into it. That's actually who got America started with it. Europe had been buying African slaves from African leaders...Let me say that again, they were buying Africans as slaves from African tribe leaders. . . . .No one went and just kidnapped a bunch of Africans to make them slaves, they bought them. And if you buy something, that means that someone else is selling it. Tribal or community leaders would amass so much power over the people they ruled that they would treat them like property and SELL them like property. The European white man came in and said I want to take your people to another land and sell them as slaves so they can work to death in the fields...and I'll pay you this much. The tribal leaders would force their people to go or they would be killed. The European slave traders would then continue on to America, and trade the slaves for other goods.Bubbalo wrote:
Look into the history of Africa, and then tell me the West *isn't* the only reason it's fucked up. And besides, if poeple have lived in a country for generations they are generally reluctant to move.
Anyway, I'm going to go play BF2 now.
I never inferred anything, it was someone else. I am just saying that contextually you are making the mistake of comparing apples to oranges, which makes it easier for someone to dismiss your arguement. I am sure that you can come up with a better illustration than the American asking for French help 230 years ago during the American Revolution.Bubbalo wrote:
Well maybe he could stop inferring that whites have different personality traits to non-whites, and then I'll talk within his bounds. Until then, I shall say whatever I want.
Ah, ah, ah, not quite what I meant. While much of the "oppression" of the minority groups has been willed upon themselves because they feel they deserve to be victims, the oppression I expressed towards the potentially soon to be White minority will not be a chosen one.Horseman 77 wrote:
Never happen becuase as a culture we are independent minded and don't seek aid from others.topthrill05 wrote:
As someone said in another thread the whites are next to be opressed.
I can't believe that whomever will dominate in the future will be so preposterously 'open-minded' and forgiving as the current majority class is.
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1) The West is more than just America dipshit. Where do you think the name West comes from? Think about it.MastersMom wrote:
The history books will pretty clearly show that slaves were being sold out of Africa long before the demand of the west. Once again, everyone inacurately looks at America and says 'Hey it's their fault.' Not so my friend. Europe was a huge supporter of slavery well before America got into it. That's actually who got America started with it. Europe had been buying African slaves from African leaders...Let me say that again, they were buying Africans as slaves from African tribe leaders. . . . .No one went and just kidnapped a bunch of Africans to make them slaves, they bought them. And if you buy something, that means that someone else is selling it. Tribal or community leaders would amass so much power over the people they ruled that they would treat them like property and SELL them like property. The European white man came in and said I want to take your people to another land and sell them as slaves so they can work to death in the fields...and I'll pay you this much. The tribal leaders would force their people to go or they would be killed. The European slave traders would then continue on to America, and trade the slaves for other goods.
Anyway, I'm going to go play BF2 now.
2) The fact that the tribal leaders were selling doesn't make it right. If Saddam Hussein offered to sell you a few Iraqis as slaves, would you consider it morally acceptable to buy them?
3) I was actually referring to a vast range of issues, of which slavery is only one. As a case in point: Italy in Ethiopia.
4) Britain outlawed slavery before America. So, really, they still had less impact than you.
5) White America *is* European.
Your out of your mind. Theres no talking to you is there? You are plainly racist and way off base with your convictions of americans. The west Is considered the americas period, and thats from any place in the world. japan doesnt call us the EAST no do they? Sheesh.Bubbalo wrote:
1) The West is more than just America dipshit. Where do you think the name West comes from? Think about it.MastersMom wrote:
The history books will pretty clearly show that slaves were being sold out of Africa long before the demand of the west. Once again, everyone inacurately looks at America and says 'Hey it's their fault.' Not so my friend. Europe was a huge supporter of slavery well before America got into it. That's actually who got America started with it. Europe had been buying African slaves from African leaders...Let me say that again, they were buying Africans as slaves from African tribe leaders. . . . .No one went and just kidnapped a bunch of Africans to make them slaves, they bought them. And if you buy something, that means that someone else is selling it. Tribal or community leaders would amass so much power over the people they ruled that they would treat them like property and SELL them like property. The European white man came in and said I want to take your people to another land and sell them as slaves so they can work to death in the fields...and I'll pay you this much. The tribal leaders would force their people to go or they would be killed. The European slave traders would then continue on to America, and trade the slaves for other goods.
Anyway, I'm going to go play BF2 now.
2) The fact that the tribal leaders were selling doesn't make it right. If Saddam Hussein offered to sell you a few Iraqis as slaves, would you consider it morally acceptable to buy them?
3) I was actually referring to a vast range of issues, of which slavery is only one. As a case in point: Italy in Ethiopia.
4) Britain outlawed slavery before America. So, really, they still had less impact than you.
5) White America *is* European.