Yeah that I agree.
Wasting your money it's not magic sauce.Jaekus wrote:
To be honest though I reckon the low impact workout you're doing doesn't really warrant that much protein.
Fuck stairs. First squats in 4 weeks yesterday.
Paying.
Paying.
I only said six shakes because i was going by your example. Where are you getting the other 110 grams? Again I wouldn't say 200 isn't that much. I take in a little less than that myself. Mixing types, saving whey for immediately post w/o. The average person is recommended less than half that. Naturally if you're activity level is high more is better.Kampframmer wrote:
i have 2 shakes. 1 with 1 scoop and one with 2 (post-workout).Kmar wrote:
So you're talking about < 6 shakes a day? I wouldn't say it's not "that much". Also consider absorption and utilization are not the same thing. I suppose if you're fcn killing it every time you go to the gym you're utilizing it. Personally I'd rather do about half that (@185lbs), alternating release types depending on my activity. It's probably easier on your kidneys also.Kampframmer wrote:
200 isnt that much.
3 scoops of whey and youre roughly at about 90 already.
And no, im not utilizing it 100% since im still lifting very low weights. But im pretty sure my calorie-counting app is a bit off, but it is definitely 200+. As long as you dont hit 400 regularly theres very little to no health risk.
Its hard to hit the exact amount (which would be 210), but it is what i aim for and I'd rather be a bit over than under.
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300g of skinless chicken breast is around 70g of protein, a protein bar would be approx 25g, 4 eggs would be around 30g.Kmar wrote:
I only said six shakes because i was going by your example. Where are you getting the other 110 grams? Again I wouldn't say 200 isn't that much. I take in a little less than that myself. Mixing types, saving whey for immediately post w/o. The average person is recommended less than half that. Naturally if you're activity level is high more is better.Kampframmer wrote:
i have 2 shakes. 1 with 1 scoop and one with 2 (post-workout).Kmar wrote:
So you're talking about < 6 shakes a day? I wouldn't say it's not "that much". Also consider absorption and utilization are not the same thing. I suppose if you're fcn killing it every time you go to the gym you're utilizing it. Personally I'd rather do about half that (@185lbs), alternating release types depending on my activity. It's probably easier on your kidneys also.
And no, im not utilizing it 100% since im still lifting very low weights. But im pretty sure my calorie-counting app is a bit off, but it is definitely 200+. As long as you dont hit 400 regularly theres very little to no health risk.
Its hard to hit the exact amount (which would be 210), but it is what i aim for and I'd rather be a bit over than under.
The average person isn't trying to build muscle.
chicken, nuts, milk and fat-free yoghurt mostly.Kmar wrote:
I only said six shakes because i was going by your example. Where are you getting the other 110 grams? Again I wouldn't say 200 isn't that much. I take in a little less than that myself. Mixing types, saving whey for immediately post w/o. The average person is recommended less than half that. Naturally if you're activity level is high more is better.Kampframmer wrote:
i have 2 shakes. 1 with 1 scoop and one with 2 (post-workout).Kmar wrote:
So you're talking about < 6 shakes a day? I wouldn't say it's not "that much". Also consider absorption and utilization are not the same thing. I suppose if you're fcn killing it every time you go to the gym you're utilizing it. Personally I'd rather do about half that (@185lbs), alternating release types depending on my activity. It's probably easier on your kidneys also.
And no, im not utilizing it 100% since im still lifting very low weights. But im pretty sure my calorie-counting app is a bit off, but it is definitely 200+. As long as you dont hit 400 regularly theres very little to no health risk.
Its hard to hit the exact amount (which would be 210), but it is what i aim for and I'd rather be a bit over than under.
Right now i am just eating healthy (this is most important of course), try to get as much protein whilst doing so and making sure that i get above 3500kcals so i can maybe gain a little weight.
Right. But we are talking more than twice the recommended daily amount. You're pissing cash away if you just think because you're working out that your body will utilize whatever you throw at it because of that. Again, my seemingly elusive point was that I don't think 200+ grams of protein a day qualifies as "not that much".Jaekus wrote:
300g of skinless chicken breast is around 70g of protein, a protein bar would be approx 25g, 4 eggs would be around 30g.Kmar wrote:
I only said six shakes because i was going by your example. Where are you getting the other 110 grams? Again I wouldn't say 200 isn't that much. I take in a little less than that myself. Mixing types, saving whey for immediately post w/o. The average person is recommended less than half that. Naturally if you're activity level is high more is better.Kampframmer wrote:
i have 2 shakes. 1 with 1 scoop and one with 2 (post-workout).
And no, im not utilizing it 100% since im still lifting very low weights. But im pretty sure my calorie-counting app is a bit off, but it is definitely 200+. As long as you dont hit 400 regularly theres very little to no health risk.
Its hard to hit the exact amount (which would be 210), but it is what i aim for and I'd rather be a bit over than under.
The average person isn't trying to build muscle.
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Also, I don't know if this is store wide.. But I was able to pick up 6 lbs of good whey for $32 at Costco today.
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Recommended daily amount is simply for a healthy diet. If you want to grow muscle you need to eat around 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight (I'm sure you're already aware of this), studies have shown this to be the case AFAIK.Kmar wrote:
Right. But we are talking more than twice the recommended daily amount. You're pissing cash away if you just think because you're working out that your body will utilize whatever you throw at it because of that. Again, my seemingly elusive point was that I don't think 200+ grams of protein a day qualifies as "not that much".Jaekus wrote:
300g of skinless chicken breast is around 70g of protein, a protein bar would be approx 25g, 4 eggs would be around 30g.Kmar wrote:
I only said six shakes because i was going by your example. Where are you getting the other 110 grams? Again I wouldn't say 200 isn't that much. I take in a little less than that myself. Mixing types, saving whey for immediately post w/o. The average person is recommended less than half that. Naturally if you're activity level is high more is better.
The average person isn't trying to build muscle.
I do agree though eating all that protein isn't necessary if you're lifting light, because you aren't doing enough to stimulate muscle growth in the first place.
Let's not forget it's just as important how you're eating and what type. For example slow release proteins, like animal protein, take more time to metabolize. So pay attention to how much of it you eat at a single sitting. Really there is no one size fits all answer to how much protein one should eat a day. However what I do know is 200 grams of protein should be enough for most of us, including we who hit the gym regularly. By the one gram per lb rule that put's us at a weight of 200 lbs. Do most of us weigh over 200 lbs? And if we do, and if we lift, are we really "not getting that much" protein. I think you'd be just fine.Jaekus wrote:
Recommended daily amount is simply for a healthy diet. If you want to grow muscle you need to eat around 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight (I'm sure you're already aware of this), studies have shown this to be the case AFAIK.Kmar wrote:
Right. But we are talking more than twice the recommended daily amount. You're pissing cash away if you just think because you're working out that your body will utilize whatever you throw at it because of that. Again, my seemingly elusive point was that I don't think 200+ grams of protein a day qualifies as "not that much".Jaekus wrote:
300g of skinless chicken breast is around 70g of protein, a protein bar would be approx 25g, 4 eggs would be around 30g.
The average person isn't trying to build muscle.
I do agree though eating all that protein isn't necessary if you're lifting light, because you aren't doing enough to stimulate muscle growth in the first place.
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Well on that point for me it goes without saying that it is a lot for the bodyweight of Kampf, as it's 1.5g of protein per lb of BW a day. I usually try to get 0.8 - 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight, though at the moment I'm trying to lose fat so I'm not fussed about being strict on it. I just eat less and try to replace as much carbs with protein / fibre (ie. vegies) as I can.
And yes, it is very important to get the bulk of protein from your diet if possible IMO. I have scoop of whey in my rolled oats for brekky, then the only other times I have a shake is pre and post workout. Rest of the time I'm eating chicken or salmon.
And yes, it is very important to get the bulk of protein from your diet if possible IMO. I have scoop of whey in my rolled oats for brekky, then the only other times I have a shake is pre and post workout. Rest of the time I'm eating chicken or salmon.
A problem I run in to is i am prone to kidney stones. And Animal Protein is one of the leading causes of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_sto … al_protein
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_sto … al_protein
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That sucks. Found a short article here that outlines the potential risks of a high protein diet.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/42138 … dangerous/
My diet isn't all that high in protein, and I do eat fibre every day.
http://www.livestrong.com/article/42138 … dangerous/
My diet isn't all that high in protein, and I do eat fibre every day.
just fyi, in case you didn't know, eating a proper amount of protein is really important while maintaining a caloric deficit because it's the key dietary factor in getting your body to preserve muscle and burn fat instead. you should still be eating .8-1.5 grams of protein per day.Jaekus wrote:
Well on that point for me it goes without saying that it is a lot for the bodyweight of Kampf, as it's 1.5g of protein per lb of BW a day. I usually try to get 0.8 - 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight, though at the moment I'm trying to lose fat so I'm not fussed about being strict on it. I just eat less and try to replace as much carbs with protein / fibre (ie. vegies) as I can.
I am not (afaik). No one in my family, and i eman no one, has ever had them. I assume being prone to themcan be hereditary.Kmar wrote:
A problem I run in to is i am prone to kidney stones. And Animal Protein is one of the leading causes of them
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kidney_sto … al_protein
I drink plenty of water and have never had any other kind of kidney problems. So i think im good.
And i fucking hope i dont get them. I read the other day that the pain has been proven (as far as you can proof pain) to be worse than child birth.
(suck it women, some men do know how it feels, and worse. shit excuse)
I'm mainly not too fussed because I've been working so much lately I haven't had enough time to eat properly. My work consists of me staying at work overnight, so 16 hours at work each night for 6 of the last 9 nights... pretty hard.HaiBai wrote:
just fyi, in case you didn't know, eating a proper amount of protein is really important while maintaining a caloric deficit because it's the key dietary factor in getting your body to preserve muscle and burn fat instead. you should still be eating .8-1.5 grams of protein per day.Jaekus wrote:
Well on that point for me it goes without saying that it is a lot for the bodyweight of Kampf, as it's 1.5g of protein per lb of BW a day. I usually try to get 0.8 - 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight, though at the moment I'm trying to lose fat so I'm not fussed about being strict on it. I just eat less and try to replace as much carbs with protein / fibre (ie. vegies) as I can.
dont you bring food to work with you?Jaekus wrote:
I'm mainly not too fussed because I've been working so much lately I haven't had enough time to eat properly. My work consists of me staying at work overnight, so 16 hours at work each night for 6 of the last 9 nights... pretty hard.HaiBai wrote:
just fyi, in case you didn't know, eating a proper amount of protein is really important while maintaining a caloric deficit because it's the key dietary factor in getting your body to preserve muscle and burn fat instead. you should still be eating .8-1.5 grams of protein per day.Jaekus wrote:
Well on that point for me it goes without saying that it is a lot for the bodyweight of Kampf, as it's 1.5g of protein per lb of BW a day. I usually try to get 0.8 - 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight, though at the moment I'm trying to lose fat so I'm not fussed about being strict on it. I just eat less and try to replace as much carbs with protein / fibre (ie. vegies) as I can.
I cook dinner at work for the people that stay here, so I eat whatever is on the menu.
yeah... i know what you mean. my diet has been suffering from focusing on school as well.Jaekus wrote:
I'm mainly not too fussed because I've been working so much lately I haven't had enough time to eat properly. My work consists of me staying at work overnight, so 16 hours at work each night for 6 of the last 9 nights... pretty hard.HaiBai wrote:
just fyi, in case you didn't know, eating a proper amount of protein is really important while maintaining a caloric deficit because it's the key dietary factor in getting your body to preserve muscle and burn fat instead. you should still be eating .8-1.5 grams of protein per day.Jaekus wrote:
Well on that point for me it goes without saying that it is a lot for the bodyweight of Kampf, as it's 1.5g of protein per lb of BW a day. I usually try to get 0.8 - 1g of protein per lb of bodyweight, though at the moment I'm trying to lose fat so I'm not fussed about being strict on it. I just eat less and try to replace as much carbs with protein / fibre (ie. vegies) as I can.
Plus I stopped working out for three months, not much point in trying to retain some hard earned muscle I've already lost. Just trimming down from Xmas and then I'll start gaining muscle again in probably March.
interesting app
http://www.gym-pact.com/
hereAt the beginning of each week, you set a goal for the number of times you'll visit the gym and name a price you're willing to pay for not meeting that goal. If you miss your goal, you pay the price. If you make it, you receive a portion of the cash collected from all the people who missed their goals. The iOS app confirms you've actually been to the gym through a location-based check-in feature.
http://www.gym-pact.com/
Interesting. I'd always win though coz my gym is at home, under my house
mine too
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Maybe we should both do it and make our millions, mwahahahahahahaha!!
Jaekus wrote:
Maybe we should both do it and make our millions, mwahahahahahahaha!!
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