BF2S Forums Let's talk helis

steelie34 wrote:

jord wrote:

Pubic wrote:

BF3 has far better air balance than BF2.  In BF2 AA was a complete joke and being in air mean't tonnes of lazy kills.  Now you can still rack up a shitload of kills, but you do have to work for it somewhat.

And why does stationery AA only have zoom optics?  It should have missiles as well, or make AA perks apply to it as well.

Erm no. Why should someone who sits in an indestructable static AA with no risk to himself get AA missles too? No thanks, the cretins that inhabit static AA can fuck off.

static aa isn't indestructible.  two tv's will destroy it.

Really? I can't get hit indicators on static AA or see any visible damage after multiple barrage's of guided rockets.  Do I need to use the unusable (PS3 anyway) TVMs?

Tripulaci0n wrote:

Takes a lot more skillz to fly the Jet than it does to hold down the trigger in someone's general direction (which is pretty much how you kill people in this game)

That kind of statement is all over the internet about every single FPS game, and I'm f#@king sick and tiered of hearing it. Mainly because it's bulls#@t. In every single game you have to "AIM AT TEH ENEMI AN HOLD DAH TRIGGAH" since that's the f#@king point of an FPS game, you aim and shoot. Every aspect of every game is complained about but I think this whole "spray and pray" is what pisses me off the most. What - do you want ever single bullet in the magazine be required to kill somebody so you can't just aim within a few inches and hold the trigger down?

Name one FPS game with automatic weapons where you don't aim in the general direction and spray.

I still dont understand wht you feel the need to censor your swears. Also, arma, red orchestra, pr, stalker.

We dont spray n pray ( unless intoxicated.) 90% of the fps players do.

Also i have no idea what shifty is on about.

UnkleRukus wrote:

I still dont understand wht you feel the need to censor your swears. Also, arma, red orchestra, pr, stalker.

We dont spray n pray ( unless intoxicated.) 90% of the fps players do.

Also i have no idea what shifty is on about.

The point is that you have to aim at the enemy and hold the trigger down to kill them. There's the guy that aims down his sights and puts all hits rounds from a short burst on target and then there's the retard that sprays un-aimed from half a mile away and luckily gets a killed. I don't see how either can be annoying. If you get owned by a sprayer, tough luck, but don't b#@&h about it.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

I still dont understand wht you feel the need to censor your swears. Also, arma, red orchestra, pr, stalker.

We dont spray n pray ( unless intoxicated.) 90% of the fps players do.

Also i have no idea what shifty is on about.

The point is that you have to aim at the enemy and hold the trigger down to kill them. There's the guy that aims down his sights and puts all hits rounds from a short burst on target and then there's the retard that sprays un-aimed from half a mile away and luckily gets a killed. I don't see how either can be annoying. If you get owned by a sprayer, tough luck, but don't b#@&h about it.

This seems a lot like "bitching" to me you pansy.

aerodynamic wrote:

UnkleRukus wrote:

I still dont understand wht you feel the need to censor your swears. Also, arma, red orchestra, pr, stalker.

We dont spray n pray ( unless intoxicated.) 90% of the fps players do.

Also i have no idea what shifty is on about.

I miss pr.

Yeah, it was a good fun back in the day. It's taken them 5-6 years to get it up to where it is today, i can't imagine them abandoning the BF2 project for a BF3 one anytime soon.

GeoEnvi wrote:

steelie34 wrote:

jord wrote:

Erm no. Why should someone who sits in an indestructable static AA with no risk to himself get AA missles too? No thanks, the cretins that inhabit static AA can fuck off.

static aa isn't indestructible.  two tv's will destroy it.

Really? I can't get hit indicators on static AA or see any visible damage after multiple barrage's of guided rockets.  Do I need to use the unusable (PS3 anyway) TVMs?

2 tv missiles IF

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it's populated...otherwise it wont do shit...

Last edited by thepilot91 (2012-01-12 06:47:57)

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Tripulaci0n wrote:

Takes a lot more skillz to fly the Jet than it does to hold down the trigger in someone's general direction (which is pretty much how you kill people in this game)

That kind of statement is all over the internet about every single FPS game, and I'm f#@king sick and tiered of hearing it. Mainly because it's bulls#@t. In every single game you have to "AIM AT TEH ENEMI AN HOLD DAH TRIGGAH" since that's the f#@king point of an FPS game, you aim and shoot. Every aspect of every game is complained about but I think this whole "spray and pray" is what pisses me off the most. What - do you want ever single bullet in the magazine be required to kill somebody so you can't just aim within a few inches and hold the trigger down?

Name one FPS game with automatic weapons where you don't aim in the general direction and spray.

there was this game called battlefield 2 you might have missed? it had recoil and stuff and shooting people took some degree of skill

FatherTed wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Tripulaci0n wrote:

Takes a lot more skillz to fly the Jet than it does to hold down the trigger in someone's general direction (which is pretty much how you kill people in this game)

That kind of statement is all over the internet about every single FPS game, and I'm f#@king sick and tiered of hearing it. Mainly because it's bulls#@t. In every single game you have to "AIM AT TEH ENEMI AN HOLD DAH TRIGGAH" since that's the f#@king point of an FPS game, you aim and shoot. Every aspect of every game is complained about but I think this whole "spray and pray" is what pisses me off the most. What - do you want ever single bullet in the magazine be required to kill somebody so you can't just aim within a few inches and hold the trigger down?

Name one FPS game with automatic weapons where you don't aim in the general direction and spray.

there was this game called battlefield 2 you might have missed? it had recoil and stuff and shooting people took some degree of skill

Takes still to play in this game too. You aim and hold the trigger down in EVERY damn FPS game on earth. Some people like to hold the trigger down longer than others. That's doesn't make it a shitty game. I expect to hit my target at least once or twice when I send 30 rounds at him from the hip. You can kill people easier with a short accurate burst though.

What I'm annoyed by is people complaining about spraying and praying. If that's their style let 'em be and enjoy the easy kill.

-Sh1fty- wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

That kind of statement is all over the internet about every single FPS game, and I'm f#@king sick and tiered of hearing it. Mainly because it's bulls#@t. In every single game you have to "AIM AT TEH ENEMI AN HOLD DAH TRIGGAH" since that's the f#@king point of an FPS game, you aim and shoot. Every aspect of every game is complained about but I think this whole "spray and pray" is what pisses me off the most. What - do you want ever single bullet in the magazine be required to kill somebody so you can't just aim within a few inches and hold the trigger down?

Name one FPS game with automatic weapons where you don't aim in the general direction and spray.

there was this game called battlefield 2 you might have missed? it had recoil and stuff and shooting people took some degree of skill

Takes still to play in this game too. You aim and hold the trigger down in EVERY damn FPS game on earth. Some people like to hold the trigger down longer than others. That's doesn't make it a shitty game. I expect to hit my target at least once or twice when I send 30 rounds at him from the hip. You can kill people easier with a short accurate burst though.

What I'm annoyed by is people complaining about spraying and praying. If that's their style let 'em be and enjoy the easy kill.

dude I don't even fly (because I'm terrible at it) but you can't deny that it takes more skill than infantry. Maybe not high level teamplay shit, but then the same high level teamplay shit can be done with a helicopter too so that's a moot point.

I don't DISLIKE the way shooting is in this game, and I have no idea what it's like to actually fire a fully automatic weapon, but it's NOT hard to shoot people in BF3. All I'm saying is that it takes more ABILITY to fly a helicopter than it does to play infantry. But I may be mistaken, because I have almost zero experience in helis and like 15 years of PC FPS gaming

Pure_Beef_68 wrote:

FatherTed wrote:

aerodynamic wrote:

probably is, i mean the alternative to pr is....ArmA? but arma is so broken and unoptimized.
Bf3 pr would be nice to see.





COME ON DICE! WE WANT MODS.
I want forgotten hope 3.

might reinstall everything and have a look

It is mate, just check out the PR forums, they are still busy.

with arma: pr

lol

They said thaty years ago, but tbh they should just stick to mods.
Plus they were getting carried away by their realism fetish, was getting way to annoying.
Thats what made me stop playing after awhile.