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While I have experienced this as well, something tells me this thread isnt off to a good start. Countering a generalized personal attack from the conservatives with a generalized personal attack on them isn't going to further discussion any. Conservatives, by and large, are good people who want the best. I have met some very intelligent conservatives, and I agree with them on some issues. On the other hand, around these forums the conservatives I see are somewhat scary... they hate the liberal mindset because they've met (or maybe seen on tv) some liberals they didn't like. I've seen a few comments advocating the death of liberals, which I hope were not entirely serious but fear were meant to be taken at face value. The best I can say is ignore these people, or argue with them in a logical manner. Insulting them isn't going to help any.

It's like I said before, there are stupid conservatives and stupid liberals. It just seems like the stupid people from both sides are the most vocal.

Skruples wrote:

While I have experienced this as well, something tells me this thread isnt off to a good start. Countering a generalized personal attack from the conservatives with a generalized personal attack on them isn't going to further discussion any. Conservatives, by and large, are good people who want the best. I have met some very intelligent conservatives, and I agree with them on some issues. On the other hand, around these forums the conservatives I see are somewhat scary... they hate the liberal mindset because they've met (or maybe seen on tv) some liberals they didn't like. I've seen a few comments advocating the death of liberals, which I hope were not entirely serious but fear were meant to be taken at face value. The best I can say is ignore these people, or argue with them in a logical manner. Insulting them isn't going to help any.

It's like I said before, there are stupid conservatives and stupid liberals. It just seems like the stupid people from both sides are the most vocal.

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Seriously though....counter to Skruples experience, I have seen some scary liberal ideologues in the forums as well. Another thing to consider is that to make an attack effective, there should be truth in it. If you truly are feeling beat up upon based on your idealogical perspective and expressed views, perhaps you should re-examine them to find out where they are vulnerable.

There have been a few threads recently discussing the current U.S. economic sytem that are so easy to tear apart simply because while the ideas may sound good many don't have the breadth of experience to understand the ramifications of the ideas that they propose.

There is an old saying "If you are not liberal while you are young, you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you get older, you have no brain." Now, the great majority on this forum are extremely young and the young generally have not yet developed a skin thick enough to handle the give and take of political discourse. This is a general statement, of course to which there are a few notable exceptions.

Just as you can look back and consider foolish some of the behaviour or beliefs you held 5, 10 or 15 years ago, so it is when I look at some of the ideas presented in these forums. Do not worry though, you will age too and perhaps you too will look back on your closely held youthful ideals and smile at your own foolishness.

Darth_Fleder wrote:

Skruples wrote:

While I have experienced this as well, something tells me this thread isnt off to a good start. Countering a generalized personal attack from the conservatives with a generalized personal attack on them isn't going to further discussion any. Conservatives, by and large, are good people who want the best. I have met some very intelligent conservatives, and I agree with them on some issues. On the other hand, around these forums the conservatives I see are somewhat scary... they hate the liberal mindset because they've met (or maybe seen on tv) some liberals they didn't like. I've seen a few comments advocating the death of liberals, which I hope were not entirely serious but fear were meant to be taken at face value. The best I can say is ignore these people, or argue with them in a logical manner. Insulting them isn't going to help any.

It's like I said before, there are stupid conservatives and stupid liberals. It just seems like the stupid people from both sides are the most vocal.

Hey, I resemble that remark!

Seriously though....counter to Skruples experience, I have seen some scary liberal ideologues in the forums as well. Another thing to consider is that to make an attack effective, there should be truth in it. If you truly are feeling beat up upon based on your idealogical perspective and expressed views, perhaps you should re-examine them to find out where they are vulnerable.

There have been a few threads recently discussing the current U.S. economic sytem that are so easy to tear apart simply because while the ideas may sound good many don't have the breadth of experience to understand the ramifications of the ideas that they propose.

There is an old saying "If you are not liberal while you are young, you have no heart. If you are not conservative when you get older, you have no brain." Now, the great majority on this forum are extremely young and the young generally have not yet developed a skin thick enough to handle the give and take of political discourse. This is a general statement, of course to which there are a few notable exceptions.

Just as you can look back and consider foolish some of the behaviour or beliefs you held 5, 10 or 15 years ago, so it is when I look at some of the ideas presented in these forums. Do not worry though, you will age too and perhaps you too will look back on your closely held youthful ideals and smile at your own foolishness.

Feel free to link your "scary liberal" thread as I have done. Thanks. I'd love to see the comparison to Cougars remarks on the thread I posted.

Notice at the bottom of my post where I mentioned both sides have stupid advocates? I'm not so naive as to believe that conservatives are the only ideology with retards in the ranks, I have seen the liberal counterpart. Around these forums, however, the most hatred and distrust seems to be brought from the conservatives. Allow me to quote a few of the things I've read in the last week...

anonymous wrote:

Your right though socialism isn't anti-American but it just so happens that most anti-Americans living in America are socialists . Ever hear of Commie/ I mean California ? Holt mother of god if I had the time to write some of the things I've heard at a few business meeting out there and on off time . After hearing such shit let me put it this way . If there EVER is another Terrorist attack in the US I truly , no seriously , hope it is in California and I hope it takes most of the people living there out . And I'm not kidding . California is freaking communist central .

anonymous wrote:

Stalin did have the rioght idea but we just need to apply it to all the liberals . Round them up , kill them all , problems sovled

anonymous wrote:

nah...let the libs have their way.

they would eliminate themselves and their ideology because the next generation would be aborted, all the women would be too busy working to raise a family with their wives, the role of the father would be completely gone between welfare and feminazis, and no one will have guns so all the criminals (who will have the guns anyway) will wipe them out.

Then we can start over right. (pun unintentional)

And that was from just one thread. I could go on, but I think I've made my point. Gross generalizations are not limited to conservaties alone, but around these forums I tend to see alot of it. See the post above my own for a great example of generalization. By the way horseman, you might want to check a dictionary before you call someone on their spelling.

Hmm. There's been silly insults and death from both camps on all forms of media. This thread is null.

Horseman 77 wrote:

Mason4Assassin444 wrote:

I noticed from this thread, http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?id=25309 , that debate and serious talk among people on this forum is not possible between Republicans and everyone else. Whenever the administration is challenged, the right wingers on here get thier pink undies in a bunch and go on a tirade once a liberal puts some info out that the right-wing mind can't comprehend. 

I love debating on here. Especially when it is conducted well. All to often is it not. Due to liberal racism.

HAHA! I created a term. Liberal Racism.

no you did't and we all knew most liberals are Racists. By keeping Races down they secure the voter base.

Ps you "challange" no one.

I think spelling CHALLENGES you.

http://dictionary.reference.com/search?q=Challenge

Horseman 77  wrote:

no you did't and we all knew most liberals are Racists. By keeping Races down they secure the voter base.

that is the biggest load of horse shit

Last edited by BN (2006-05-22 19:57:01)

No one crys louder than a liberal... Is that racist?

Define Irony.

Someone making a flame thread, about people flaming too much.

No don't take it the wrong way, I am a moderate, I respect both sides of the spectrum. But I dont thin this thread was a good idea.

Horseman 77 wrote:

no you did't and we all knew most liberals are Racists. By keeping Races down they secure the voter base.

Except that the poor are the least likely to vote.  And besides, all the people suggesting we should put more money into the pockets of the under-privilidged on this forum are liberals.  Explain that.

Skruples wrote:

This thread has been cleaned up. The next person to misquote someone in an insulting manner will get banned.

Mine was a genuine mistake. Too much mulled wine i think