FEOS
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+1,182|6651|'Murka

m3thod wrote:

ermmm he US have confirmed it lost the drone while snooping around and generally not respecting borders/airspace etc etc
Not saying it didn't go down in Iran, ffs. I'm saying Iran didn't get it whole, like they are claiming.

And it supposed when horky and veered off-course while on a mission in Afghanistan, where it's been operating for years.
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FEOS
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+1,182|6651|'Murka

Uzique wrote:

cybargs, the thing is with stuxnet... is that it can fuck pretty much anyone. if the israelis used stuxnet in the west it would still fuck us as hard. stuxnet represents a frightening new level of electronic/cyber-warfare that has opened a whole potential can of worms for world security. i wouldn't say being badly affected by a brand new, incredibly intricate form of computer warfare means that iran are a bunch of backwards goat-herders. you could use the same thing on a power station in the UK and we'd be fucked, too.
No. Stuxnet was built to fuck with one thing: Iranian-spec Siemens centrifuges. If it weren't the places where it showed up outside of Iran would've been fucked up, too.
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FEOS
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+1,182|6651|'Murka

Macbeth wrote:

There are news stories about DoD computers getting comprised every few months. Hell, in the early days random hackers were able to do it pretty famously.

It is just like every other means of causing damage- a matter of will power.
Those are unclassified networks, attached to the internet. You're comparing apples and armchairs.
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Cybargs
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+2,285|6956

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

There are news stories about DoD computers getting comprised every few months. Hell, in the early days random hackers were able to do it pretty famously.

It is just like every other means of causing damage- a matter of will power.
Those are unclassified networks, attached to the internet. You're comparing apples and armchairs.
China's been trying to hack into DoD on a daily basis.
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RTHKI
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+1,741|6977|Cinncinatti

Lipschitz wrote:

Google maps possibly shows lost drone?

http://www.foxnews.com/scitech/2011/12/ … t-in-iran/
totally looks the same
https://i.imgur.com/tMvdWFG.png
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6710

FEOS wrote:

Uzique wrote:

cybargs, the thing is with stuxnet... is that it can fuck pretty much anyone. if the israelis used stuxnet in the west it would still fuck us as hard. stuxnet represents a frightening new level of electronic/cyber-warfare that has opened a whole potential can of worms for world security. i wouldn't say being badly affected by a brand new, incredibly intricate form of computer warfare means that iran are a bunch of backwards goat-herders. you could use the same thing on a power station in the UK and we'd be fucked, too.
No. Stuxnet was built to fuck with one thing: Iranian-spec Siemens centrifuges. If it weren't the places where it showed up outside of Iran would've been fucked up, too.
no shit, dumbie. but it's the technology and its potential that is frightening. infecting low level UNIX machines that are built without any operating system and are only used as automation. the fact that hacking/viruses can infect technology at that root level means that now, theoretically at least, everything from power-plants to dams to water cleaning facilities can be industrially sabotaged.
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Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6710

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

There are news stories about DoD computers getting comprised every few months. Hell, in the early days random hackers were able to do it pretty famously.

It is just like every other means of causing damage- a matter of will power.
Those are unclassified networks, attached to the internet. You're comparing apples and armchairs.
also this isn't my opinion, this is coming from a tech essay that i read somewhere in a proper academic journal. if i remember it i'll be sure to dig it up. but i am not conjecturing or speculating here (i don't know anything about computer security so why would i?)
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-Sh1fty-
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+510|5713|Ventura, California
Fuck Iran

Fuck Obama

That thing needs to get back in US hands before they can get too much valuable information.

Iran should get their ass kicked for stealing US military property.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6710
shut up shifty

mong
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5713|Ventura, California
No you shut up

The U.S. has handed Iran vital military information and technology on a silver platter. Common sense dictates you do whatever you can to get that kind of thing away from your enemy that could use it later against you or develop something better from your work.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Cybargs
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+2,285|6956

-Sh1fty- wrote:

No you shut up

The U.S. has handed Iran vital military information and technology on a silver platter. Common sense dictates you do whatever you can to get that kind of thing away from your enemy that could use it later against you or develop something better from your work.
or its a trojan drone derp.
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M.O.A.B
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+1,220|6463|Escea

I wouldn't worry too much. Iran sucks at reverse engineering and China steals everyone elses tech anyway. Besides, there was that guy years ago handing over documents on the B-2, and nothing has really emerged of similar capability to it.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England

-Sh1fty- wrote:

No you shut up

The U.S. has handed Iran vital military information and technology on a silver platter. Common sense dictates you do whatever you can to get that kind of thing away from your enemy that could use it later against you or develop something better from your work.
please shut the fuck up.
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-Sh1fty-
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+510|5713|Ventura, California

M.O.A.B wrote:

I wouldn't worry too much. Iran sucks at reverse engineering and China steals everyone elses tech anyway. Besides, there was that guy years ago handing over documents on the B-2, and nothing has really emerged of similar capability to it.
That reassures me.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6949|England. Stoke

Uzique wrote:

FEOS wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

There are news stories about DoD computers getting comprised every few months. Hell, in the early days random hackers were able to do it pretty famously.

It is just like every other means of causing damage- a matter of will power.
Those are unclassified networks, attached to the internet. You're comparing apples and armchairs.
also this isn't my opinion, this is coming from a tech essay that i read somewhere in a proper academic journal. if i remember it i'll be sure to dig it up. but i am not conjecturing or speculating here (i don't know anything about computer security so why would i?)
Yes I read an article in The Times about this by a Professor who worked at an internet security firm that had worked with the virus.

Also Shifty do please stfu!

Last edited by coke (2011-12-10 12:08:32)

Pure_Beef_68
Pure_beef_69 -1
+20|6193

-Sh1fty- wrote:

No you shut up

The U.S. has handed Iran vital military information and technology on a silver platter. Common sense dictates you do whatever you can to get that kind of thing away from your enemy that could use it later against you or develop something better from your work.
Yeah great idea! Lets invade them! Retard.

I hope Iran get's something from it, then gives it to the world media.

Fucking yank government making out they are friends of the free world (not that the UK gov is any better).
Cheeky_Ninja06
Member
+52|6972|Cambridge, England
If you were that serious about reverse engineering it, I would imagine you would keep it secret / hidden, develop something awesome from it then claim you came up with it all by yourself?
Cybargs
Moderated
+2,285|6956

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

If you were that serious about reverse engineering it, I would imagine you would keep it secret / hidden, develop something awesome from it then claim you came up with it all by yourself?
just like China's J-20 had "nothing to do with F117 stealth tech" lol.
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RTHKI
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yea that almost 30yr old tech
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Spearhead
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+731|6930|Tampa Bay Florida
LOL shifty

glad you werent in charge when the Russians shot down Gary Powers.  "Well guys, nuclear war is now upon us.  No man left behind!"  lol
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6949|England. Stoke

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Iran should get their ass kicked for stealing US military property.
Pure_Beef_68
Pure_beef_69 -1
+20|6193

coke wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Iran should get their ass kicked for stealing US military property.
He's got to be trolling.

That's like if a thief broke into your house, stole all of your shit, then had the balls to come back the next day asking for his mobile phone back because he left it there.

That's basically what the US have been doing. And you think Iran should be punished for it? Hell, you're more retarded than i thought.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England

Pure_Beef_68 wrote:

coke wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Iran should get their ass kicked for stealing US military property.
He's got to be trolling.

That's like if a thief broke into your house, stole all of your shit, then had the balls to come back the next day asking for his mobile phone back because he left it there.

That's basically what the US have been doing. And you think Iran should be punished for it? Hell, you're more retarded than i thought.
He's not trolling.
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-Frederick Bastiat
coke
Aye up duck!
+440|6949|England. Stoke

Pure_Beef_68 wrote:

coke wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Iran should get their ass kicked for stealing US military property.
He's got to be trolling.

That's like if a thief broke into your house, stole all of your shit, then had the balls to come back the next day asking for his mobile phone back because he left it there.

That's basically what the US have been doing. And you think Iran should be punished for it? Hell, you're more retarded than i thought.
The US wants back all the missiles and bombs that have been "stolen" over the years by various middle eastern countries.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5598|London, England
To be fair, we've never done anything to Iran, they've held us up as the Great Satan since the Ayatollah's took power in the 70s and used us as their own personal bogeymen. Remember, they did take dozens of Americans hostage at one point...
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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