GunSlinger OIF II
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The_Mob_Returns wrote:

I think the other big thing about people in America is they do not know how to use grammar or spelling.  Sometimes I wish I did not live in America.
thats the sorry ass attitude young people these days have.  to think you are gonna end up becoming a full functioning member of society soon.  I wish you didnt live in America either
The_Mob_Returns
Member
+72|6951|Indianapolis, IN
Thanks for the negative karma whoever that was.  I can not exactly get out of the United States right now.  I happen to be living under my parents household currently as I am not yet 18.  I still have my own ideas and those will not be changing any time soon. 
What Americans need is to know in what they believe.  I know what I believe. 

Of course I would like to live somewhere else but right now I am still in high school and I will most likely get a good scholarship to a college in the United States.  So I will be int he US for a while.

I want to take a video camera around with me one day on the streets of downtown Indianapolis (maybe this weekend during the Indianapolis 500) and ask people to locate countries in Europe.  Ooo, that would be fun.

(Ah, time to get off and study for finals.)

Edit:
I will become a member of society.  On days when I read about the stupidity of our government and citizens are the days that i wish I lived elsewhere.  Nah, I plan on going to college, probably UIUC or Purdue via the ROTC to major in Civil engineering.  And if that does not work out, I will go to Purdue for college and become a Secondary education Biology teacher.  (Despite how I feel about the Teachers Union, my love is biology)

Last edited by The_Mob_Returns (2006-05-21 18:35:15)

Freezer
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+4|6937

goblinstomper wrote:

Im afraid its true... Kinda.
We do have a stereotypical view of all americans as kinda dumb, like you think us brits love tea. Whether or not it is justified, i doubt it. But its probally the fact that your presedent is an absolute Dumbass.
Stats show that people with a low IQ voted for Bush... and people witjh a normal to high IQ didn't.... Bush is in power... you do the math.
lol
Sounds harsh, but i dont mean to say ALL Americans are stupid.... just some... a few... lots... well just over half.
Yeah and you still have a ancient ass Queen who does what? Prince's and Princesses losers like Prince Charles who couldn't keep his tally wacker in his pants for some old ugly.. um no FUGLY hag of a woman.  Curious but just what does the royal family do other than make you worship them?  The Queen is a million years old what exactly is she leading?  Hell thats the only thing Im ignorant on the damn royals just what is so special about them anyway?    Oh yes Tony Blair there is something to write home about.

The reason George Bush is still in power is very simple, Like him or not he was the best choice to finish what he started.  Bill Clinton was a pussy ass president who got us in this mess in the first place.   If he had acted on intelligebnce about Osama Bin Laden there would have been NO 911 attacks.  He knew where that idiot was and ghe could have taken him out but he let him go over a cigar and an ugly whore.. go finger I mean figure.

I have an above average IQ and I voted for Bush so your little theory is a little off their genius boy.
Static-nl
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@Freezer
the argument wich u come with is partialy true but also so untrue.
The USA didnt help europe cause of friendlynes but becuase they knew that on long term the germans could be a huge threat to the USA if they wouldnt step in right now.

If the US wouldnt have helped the allied it would have only been a question of time till the germans had conquered england.
Wich would have opened the option for the germans to fully concentrate on africa and Russia.
For the US at that point it would have been impossible to attack germany succesfull (having no england to round up their troops at).
and if the germans had conquered england they would have had more then enough time to finish their new weapons.
Sabotage and bombing interupted the development of those weapons alot if that hadnt happened they would have been finished and would have been used.
Incase you do not know its proven that the germans were working on longe range missles capable of reaching the US, Bombers able to reach the US, and weapons of mass destruction asin Nuclear weapons and bio warfare and more stuff years ahead of what the allied had.

Dont forget that the steps forward that the US made while fightign the 2nd WW most likely wouldnt have been made if they hadnt entered the war.

So yeah if the US hadnt stepped in wed all be speakin german rite now in europe but it wouldnt be much better for the US.
The US would either be in a war with germany or whoever got left with heavy losses or would have peace with germany while being isolated from most fo the world.

Last edited by Static-nl (2006-05-21 18:36:04)

lowing
Banned
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how can you EU folks call Americans stupid??.......If ya ask me, engulfing yourselves in 2 world wars in half a century seems pretty stupid. Letting  beasts like Hitler, Musileni, and Stalin come to power on your continent then letting them invade your countries, and ravage your land your people and your history seems pretty god damned stupid as well. Then when the wars are over and you get done blowing the shit out of Europe (twice), there is the dumb Americans, with their pocket books opened, paying to help you rebuild.

Hell, maybe you are right..........we are stupid
Pinto
Member
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Major_Spittle wrote:

Yeah the Public Education System in America sucks, it is run by the Liberal Teachers Union and they could care less about quality of Education and more about their pay and promoting their liberal agenda.
I agree.  Another problem is that when these liberals do teach, it's all about how the child feels, not what they know.  Self esteem is way too important--"Why should only the smart kids be in honors classes, get good grades, and go to college?"  That was a quote from a former principal.  This school also debated whether to drop honors classes since students not in honors would have their self esteem damaged.  (Never mind students would feel more embarrassed next to a brainy kid receiving As in the same class and act bored when the class goes too slow.)  With the liberal agenda, English, Arts, and Phys Ed are focused while Math, Science, and sometimes Social Studies take a back seat.

Another main issue is that Americans focus too much on extra-cirricular activities.  Being involved in clubs, sports, and having a job while balancing school work is too much.  European exchange students always told them they're too busy.
Freezer
Member
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Static-nl wrote:

@Freezer
the argument wich u come with is partialy true but also so untrue.
The USA didnt help europe cause of friendlynes but becuase they knew that on long term the germans could be a huge threat to the USA if they wouldnt step in right now.

If the US wouldnt have helped the allied it would have only been a question of time till the germans had conquered england.
Wich would have opened the option for the germans to fully concentrate on africa and Russia.
For the US at that point it would have been impossible to attack germany succesfull (having no england to round up their troops at).
and if the germans had conquered england they would have had more then enough time to finish their new weapons.
Sabotage and bombing interupted the development of those weapons alot if that hadnt happened they would have been finished and would have been used.
Incase you do not know its proven that the germans were working on longe range missles capable of reaching the US, Bombers able to reach the US, and weapons of mass destruction asin Nuclear weapons and bio warfare and more stuff years ahead of what the allied had.

Dont forget that the steps forward that the US made while fightign the 2nd WW most likely wouldnt have been made if they hadnt entered the war.

So yeah if the US hadnt stepped in wed all be speakin german rite now in europe but it wouldnt be much better for the US.
The US would either be in a war with germany or whoever got left with heavy losses or would have peace with germany while being isolated from most fo the world.
Oh I don't forget Im so sick of this BS all the time Americans this Americans that, FOR WHAT for NOTHING my family members fought for France in D-Day and they survived the ordeal, but to hear people put down us as a stupid nation?  I think not..
Static-nl
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lowing wrote:

how can you EU folks call Americans stupid??.......If ya ask me, engulfing yourselves in 2 world wars in half a century seems pretty stupid. Letting  beasts like Hitler, Musileni, and Stalin come to power on your continent then letting them invade your countries, and ravage your land your people and your history seems pretty god damned stupid as well. Then when the wars are over and you get done blowing the shit out of Europe (twice), there is the dumb Americans, with their pocket books opened, paying to help you rebuild.

Hell, maybe you are right..........we are stupid
you can also turn that around.

How often have the US started wars in other countrys or funded them with big cash with doubtfull reasons?

And the reason why them countrys in WW2 got so easily overrun was cause most of those countrys had no army or had no army budget so in other worlds very old weapons.
such a thing tbh were countrys have no armys and have no budget for war is a very nice thing if u think ofit but sadly there are always those countrys that do have a huge budget for armys and those sadly use them armys.

i rather live in a country that spends money on a health care system and not much on an army then one that spends billions on an Army wich it doubtfully uses and does not take care of their own sick or evne their own soldiers.

So in other words:
i am rather healthy and dont want others to die for me then that i live in a place were i have to take care of my body else im screwed, others die for me for really shitty pay and once they get home sick or wounded they get screwed again.


edit:
funded wars in other countrys:
US giving cash and weapons (new stuff) to iran and iraq
Sadly they used the weapons the US gave them in a bad way we could have thought.

But i think the reason why those weapons were sold ot those bad people was mostly cause of the cash that was gotten for it.

Last edited by Static-nl (2006-05-21 18:44:06)

The_Mob_Returns
Member
+72|6951|Indianapolis, IN
Amen! Great post.  +1 for you, Pinto

We had a teacher of a german school come and visit our school over their few weeks off for spring break, and she said that by the time she finished college she knew 5 languages fluently.  Americans are lucky if they know english properly.  We need to get off our asses and start caring about knowledge more than self-esteem.

Last edited by The_Mob_Returns (2006-05-21 18:43:26)

Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6919|Tampa Bay Florida

Freezer wrote:

The way I see it is most europeans are very ungrateful for what Americans have done for them.
You DO realize the majority of Axis casualties came from the Eastern front, don't you?  Not saying the Americans didn't give supply the USSR and help Britain and France, but it's completely wrong to say we liberated Europe on our own.
GunSlinger OIF II
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Static-nl wrote:

lowing wrote:

how can you EU folks call Americans stupid??.......If ya ask me, engulfing yourselves in 2 world wars in half a century seems pretty stupid. Letting  beasts like Hitler, Musileni, and Stalin come to power on your continent then letting them invade your countries, and ravage your land your people and your history seems pretty god damned stupid as well. Then when the wars are over and you get done blowing the shit out of Europe (twice), there is the dumb Americans, with their pocket books opened, paying to help you rebuild.

Hell, maybe you are right..........we are stupid
you can also turn that around.

How often have the US started wars in other countrys or funded them with big cash with doubtfull reasons?

And the reason why them countrys in WW2 got so easily overrun was cause most of those countrys had no army or had no army budget so in other worlds very old weapons.
such a thing tbh were countrys have no armys and have no budget for war is a very nice thing if u think ofit but sadly there are always those countrys that do have a huge budget for armys and those sadly use them armys.

i rather live in a country that spends money on a health care system and not much on an army then one that spends billions on an Army wich it doubtfully uses and does not take care of their own sick or evne their own soldiers.

So in other words:
i am rather healthy and dont want others to die for me then that i live in a place were i have to take care of my body else im screwed, others die for me for really shitty pay and once they get home sick or wounded they get screwed again.


edit:
funded wars in other countrys:
US giving cash and weapons (new stuff) to iran and iraq
Sadly they used the weapons the US gave them in a bad way we could have thought.

But i think the reason why those weapons were sold ot those bad people was mostly cause of the cash that was gotten for it.
what wars have the United States started.  I just wanna know what page your on
lowing
Banned
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Static-nl wrote:

lowing wrote:

how can you EU folks call Americans stupid??.......If ya ask me, engulfing yourselves in 2 world wars in half a century seems pretty stupid. Letting  beasts like Hitler, Musileni, and Stalin come to power on your continent then letting them invade your countries, and ravage your land your people and your history seems pretty god damned stupid as well. Then when the wars are over and you get done blowing the shit out of Europe (twice), there is the dumb Americans, with their pocket books opened, paying to help you rebuild.

Hell, maybe you are right..........we are stupid
you can also turn that around.

How often have the US started wars in other countrys or funded them with big cash with doubtfull reasons?

And the reason why them countrys in WW2 got so easily overrun was cause most of those countrys had no army or had no army budget so in other worlds very old weapons.
such a thing tbh were countrys have no armys and have no budget for war is a very nice thing if u think ofit but sadly there are always those countrys that do have a huge budget for armys and those sadly use them armys.

i rather live in a country that spends money on a health care system and not much on an army then one that spends billions on an Army wich it doubtfully uses and does not take care of their own sick or evne their own soldiers.

So in other words:
i am rather healthy and dont want others to die for me then that i live in a place were i have to take care of my body else im screwed, others die for me for really shitty pay and once they get home sick or wounded they get screwed again.


edit:
funded wars in other countrys:
US giving cash and weapons (new stuff) to iran and iraq
Sadly they used the weapons the US gave them in a bad way we could have thought.

But i think the reason why those weapons were sold ot those bad people was mostly cause of the cash that was gotten for it.
I can appreciate the fact that you would rather live in a country with no army and lollipops for all. So you will understand that when you get your lollipops taken, AGAIN, that I will not be one of the people supporting to get your country back for you.
Static-nl
Member
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Freezer wrote:

Oh I don't forget Im so sick of this BS all the time Americans this Americans that, FOR WHAT for NOTHING my family members fought for France in D-Day and they survived the ordeal, but to hear people put down us as a stupid nation?  I think not..
u dont seem to get it.
you say: the US simply went to war to save europe out of charity.

fact is the US went to war in the 2ndWW to help europe and help themselves.
Yes it is a lil black&White but that is what it is.

why do you think that there are stil numerous days in Europe were we remember the fallen Allied soldiers of the  2nd WW?
why do you think most people respect those days?
Why do you think most people in Europe stil stand stil at those days actively year after year?
Because they dont care?
Do you think the US is the only country in the world wich remembers the fallen of the 2ndWW?
Lemme gues to you the germans will also always be bad guys?

Sorry you say Europe doesnt care but tbh it seems as you yourself are very badly informed about how far europe cares and also about the 2nd WW.

furtheron that alot of europeans think Americans r stupid is a stereotype wich has absolutely nothing todo with the 2nd WW.

@Lowing
you simply arent getting my point.
i rather live in a  world were everyone si taken care of with no budgets for weapons and armys cause there are no wars then that i live in a world were armys si all people think about and so are wars.

incase you are forgetting the guys that the US calls bad guys are countrys and leaders that were in the past helped by the US.
so you could call it the US goes to war for justice or whatever but you can also call it the US goes and tries to whipeout its mistakes.
Nomer
Member
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I'd say that America is as unintelligent as any other country.  Just like any other country, we have a few educated people, a few really dumb people, and a lot of people who are perfectly functional at whatever there daily lives entail and can do their job and everything and simply don't care about things not concerning them. 

The thing that makes asking Americans about Europe so unfair is that although people from other countries fail to grasp this, America is flipping huge.  There are different regions and states and cultures and such that people do not know about and never experience or rarely experience.  Forget European countries, people here don't know states.  I live in New England, which is different from the Mid-Atlantic which is different from the Midwest or the Rockies or the South/Southeast or Texas/Southwest or California or the Pacific Northwest or Hawaii or Alaska.  Anyone can find someone on the street and make them look dumb, or interrogate a small group of people who aren't aware of the world, this could happen in any country.  But it happens even more often in The US because we are so big.  If you are from Switzerland you go to and know of many countries and languages, but this is out of necessity more than your own intelligence to a degree.  If you're from South Dakota you may know of your surrounding states and have been to a  few places on vacation or holiday, and you're probably never left the area of a couple states because the United States is huge.  I myself have been from Boston and above all the way down to DC on the Eastern Seaboard with the glaring omission of NYC, but next week I will go to San Antonio way down in Texas, when currently the farthest west I've ever been was Grundy, VA (practically WV/TN) followed by a practical geographical tie of Ithaca NY(visit), DC and Gettysburg.

A ridiculously small percentage of Americans hold passports, but a lot of people don't travel at all, we're not really into our own country and self-absorbed as much as we don't travel too much and our country is so big that we don't need to leave it because we're so far away from everything that there are parts of the US that are like foreign countries to us.
GunSlinger OIF II
Banned.
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the US went to war because Germany and Japan declared war on the US
buttered noodle
Member
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there is a difference between immaturity and stupidity, i do have to admit that far to many of us americans need to pull our heads out of our asses
JaMDuDe
Member
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I dont think americans are that stupid, they can edit a tape and pick stupid people out of a crowd but i think the majority of us are pretty smart. Online it seems half the europeans i play with are retarded(not including britain). Probably because its legal to marry your sister over there.
jet burned
Banned
+13|6855|Irving, Texas, USA

^*AlphA*^ wrote:

well if you see this vid, geography (it has been posted before but because of this topic) i will show it again :

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid … 3510275113
We aren't that stupid are we?
Good God we need help.
lowing
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Static-nl wrote:

Freezer wrote:

Oh I don't forget Im so sick of this BS all the time Americans this Americans that, FOR WHAT for NOTHING my family members fought for France in D-Day and they survived the ordeal, but to hear people put down us as a stupid nation?  I think not..
u dont seem to get it.
you say: the US simply went to war to save europe out of charity.

fact is the US went to war in the 2ndWW to help europe and help themselves.
Yes it is a lil black&White but that is what it is.

why do you think that there are stil numerous days in Europe were we remember the fallen Allied soldiers of the  2nd WW?
why do you think most people respect those days?
Why do you think most people in Europe stil stand stil at those days actively year after year?
Because they dont care?
Do you think the US is the only country in the world wich remembers the fallen of the 2ndWW?
Lemme gues to you the germans will also always be bad guys?

Sorry you say Europe doesnt care but tbh it seems as you yourself are very badly informed about how far europe cares and also about the 2nd WW.

furtheron that alot of europeans think Americans r stupid is a stereotype wich has absolutely nothing todo with the 2nd WW.

@Lowing
you simply arent getting my point.
i rather live in a  world were everyone si taken care of with no budgets for weapons and armys cause there are no wars then that i live in a world were armys si all people think about and so are wars.

incase you are forgetting the guys that the US calls bad guys are countrys and leaders that were in the past helped by the US.
so you could call it the US goes to war for justice or whatever but you can also call it the US goes and tries to whipeout its mistakes.
No sir, I got your point exactly, and I think we ALL would. Then again, there is reality isn't there?
em*Arsenic
Member
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Know what we enjoy doing here in Texas for July 4th?    We tie up a red coat to a tree and shoot him like the old days.

Our fore fathers left England for something new.  Your King (at the time) tried making them follow his rule.  So we kicked your asses out of our country.  However, you may visit so as long as you take your ideas back with you when you go.

Every country has its share of idiots,  unfortunately thats the ones you hear about mostly and not the intelligent ones.

Here is a question for all you English that start the conversation "Bash America " or the like.  Why do it?  Search all the topics you want in ANY thread from any forum.  There is always English people STARTING some kinda trash talk about Americans  lol,,    Why do you guys care?  You stay there , we'll stay here  lol,, (Until you call whining for more help with the next Dictator that has just poured your tea out and spat on your biscuits. [ a cheap stereotype i know but  fun ])

In closing, try getting along with us, since we do in fact derive from the same place.  If your nice then maybe next time we will let you Red Coats  survive      if you share your biscuits and tea though..

Last edited by em*Arsenic (2006-05-21 19:06:19)

Static-nl
Member
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@Spearhead

Ya the germans had most of their losses vs the Sovjets.

but that was i think mostly due to the way that part of the war was fought.
The Sovjets had more soldiers then all the others and they didnt really care that most their soldiers got send into a fight they could not survive.

The Sovjets didnt really use advanced tactics they simply send 4 times as many men as they germans had and spammed them.
That a big chunk of them would die wasnt a factor for them.
That kind of war the sovjets made ofc made shure that the germans would get heavy losses not mattering if the germans won or lost that fight. So in the long run the sovjets would win.

so to be short: 1939/45 bad moment to be a boy 18 or older in russia.

@Everyone
as i said a few posts ago.
every country has its idiots, geniuses, A$$holes and the rest.
The bad thing for the US is that the idiots the US has are simply gettign blown up.
WIch made it become somekind of stereotype.
Like All Dutch eat cheese and ofc wear clogs, Al brits have crappy teeth, All Americans r stupid, all brazilian girls r hot, all koreans cheat at gaming, all japanese r smart.

wel ive met nice smart americans and ive met idiots, ive met dumbfeck japanese guys and ugly brazilians girls so.

@Lowing
thats why i would rather live in such a world because of the reality.
Imagin no wars -> no huge weapon budgets -> extra cash for other stuff -> better health care -> being able to develop other stuff instead of new ways to kill eachother -> me running around but nacked with 5 hot girls.

How exactly we get to that last point i dont know yet but i do want the world to become like that.
Will it happen? no, why? because most of the people on the planet are either smacktards, morons, people that dont care, or hot chicks that dont wana run naked with me.
but in the mean time i do enjoy playing online war games.
And if some fecker would invade the netherlands id kill em

Last edited by Static-nl (2006-05-21 19:09:18)

CommieChipmunk
Member
+488|6799|Portland, OR, USA
Americans are a mix of just about every European country.. hmm

we're all humans
iamtheoneneo
Member
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theres a famous cnn video where they interview american people and ask them about the world and what are threats. it surprised me very much in the fact that 90% of the people thought iraq was australia and the fact that some of them saw france as somewhere to bomb. quite disgusting really - some americans are blatently arrogant to the point of stupidity. i no some americans (being in the uk) there nice people, but hey who knows what the rest of the country is like.
em*Arsenic
Member
+1|6787|Houston
+1 for Static  ,,  if i had enough posts i would,, sorry m8    ^5 though
lowing
Banned
+1,662|6880|USA

Static-nl wrote:

@Spearhead

Ya the germans had most of their losses vs the Sovjets.

but that was i think mostly due to the way that part of the war was fought.
The Sovjets had more soldiers then all the others and they didnt really care that most their soldiers got send into a fight they could not survive.

The Sovjets didnt really use advanced tactics they simply send 4 times as many men as they germans had and spammed them.
That a big chunk of them would die wasnt a factor for them.
That kind of war the sovjets made ofc made shure that the germans would get heavy losses not mattering if the germans won or lost that fight. So in the long run the sovjets would win.

so to be short: 1939/45 bad moment to be a boy 18 or older in russia.

@Everyone
as i said a few posts ago.
every country has its idiots, geniuses, A$$holes and the rest.
The bad thing for the US is that the idiots the US has are simply gettign blown up.
WIch made it become somekind of stereotype.
Like All Dutch eat cheese and ofc wear clogs, Al brits have crappy teeth, All Americans r stupid, all brazilian girls r hot, all koreans cheat at gaming, all japanese r smart.

wel ive met nice smart americans and ive met idiots, ive met dumbfeck japanese guys and ugly brazilians girls so.

@Lowing
thats why i would rather live in such a world because of the reality.
Imagin no wars -> no huge weapon budgets -> extra cash for other stuff -> better health care -> being able to develop other stuff instead of new ways to kill eachother -> me running around but nacked with 5 hot girls.

How exactly we get to that last point i dont know yet but i do want the world to become like that.
Will it happen? no, why? because most of the people on the planet are either smacktards, morons, people that dont care, or hot chicks that dont wana run naked with me.
but in the mean time i do enjoy playing online war games.
And if some fecker would invade the netherlands id kill em
Yes I believe John Lennon sang a song about living in a utopia called "Imagine", just before he got his brains blown out.

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