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Macbeth
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Uzique wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I am probably going to end up being a teacher. I am less than happy about that. Well sorta. High school doesn't seem too bad and I think I would enjoy college level (if I decided to invest in higher degrees). Elementary education though...god damn.
over here to teach in elementary/high schools you have to do a one-year 'postgraduate course in education' which looks really dull and tedious. i could never do that job - respect to you if you go for it. it's an important job. and yeah, the holidays aren't bad, either. plenty of time to take up another pursuit, or another freelance job on the side. teachers over here are paid a pretty decent wage, too, especially if you land a job in a private school. there are far worse career options!
My school does the same thing. At the end of it you come out with a masters in education and a teaching certification along with a BA in whatever you started out at. In NJ the teachers union is monolithic. Their benefit packages are some of the best in the U.S. You can also have a ton of your student debt dismissed if you do some ridiculously short amount of time teaching.

It's not a bad way to make a living but there's that whole "those who can't, teach" thing. It seems like the easy way out compared to doing the whole post undergrad grind.
Uzique
dasein.
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the government over here has launched this new funding-subsidy incentive for university graduates passing summa cum laude or with a 1:1 first-class honours. if you go into the postgraduate certificate of education training, they'll give you like a £30k one-off payment or something and will waive your student debts after 5 years of teaching, or something. pretty damn good deal. i considered doing it with my 1:1 for a while, too... could clear all my debts and have a nice first car totally paid off. but it's not a career i want. i'd more likely go and teach in asia for a year or two, which requires nada specialist and expensive education qualifications, and can still pay near to the same amount per year. much better way of clearing my debts. not sure about teacher's unions over here... there's a big bloc but i'm not sure how much weight they pull. teachers here have it pretty sweet, though. it's a profession that's fairly immune to all economic change. plus you can fantasize over 14 year old thai chicks.
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DesertFox-
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I think the closest thing we have is Teach For America. It's basically a job where they put you in some area of the country (i.e. the boondocks or the ghetto) in need of people to teach kids. Apparently you can defer student loans and use it to take advantage of postgraduate study after your 2 years teaching, too.
Ryan
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+1,230|6841|Alberta, Canada

So I'm doing a Beer's law plot for my chem lab, and I have 4 standard solutions of iron. When I plotted the absorbance and concentration for the 5.0mg/L iron, it doesn't really line up with the straight line that I should have got on the graph. This is probably because I didn't quite dilute the solution enough.

I emailed my professor, but while I wait, what should I do in this case? Just do a best-fit line?
Jay
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+2,006|5356|London, England
Plot what you have, not what you should have.
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Ryan
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Jay wrote:

Plot what you have, not what you should have.
Yea I am plotting the data I have. But when I go to draw a straight line through my four points, the last one doesn't line up.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5356|London, England

Ryan wrote:

Jay wrote:

Plot what you have, not what you should have.
Yea I am plotting the data I have. But when I go to draw a straight line through my four points, the last one doesn't line up.
So you messed up somewhere in the experiment. That's normal. Unless you're in a graduate program using ridiculously expensive gear, you're expected to mess up.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5482|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Ryan wrote:

So I'm doing a Beer's law plot for my chem lab, and I have 4 standard solutions of iron. When I plotted the absorbance and concentration for the 5.0mg/L iron, it doesn't really line up with the straight line that I should have got on the graph. This is probably because I didn't quite dilute the solution enough.

I emailed my professor, but while I wait, what should I do in this case? Just do a best-fit line?
i just did this lab a couple of weeks ago.  you're always supposed to make a best-fit line
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
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btw, if my data is ever fucked up, i just find a friend who had correct lab data.  there's no point in losing points over not following directions/procedure
Ryan
Member
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I just used the computer to calculate the line of best fit for me. Works out awesome, because from that line equation, I can solve for the concentration of iron in the vitamin tablet and in the water
presidentsheep
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someone needs to teach me how to do that, I can never work out how to do it properly on the new excel.
Anyone got a better program?
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5356|London, England

presidentsheep wrote:

someone needs to teach me how to do that, I can never work out how to do it properly on the new excel.
Anyone got a better program?
Take the derivative of the average.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5482|Bolingbrook, Illinois
i just use excel, it's simple and easy enough to make simple graphs

some of the kids in my class use graphical analysis though

Last edited by HaiBai (2011-11-19 16:58:08)

Dilbert_X
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HaiBai wrote:

btw, if my data is ever fucked up, i just find a friend who had correct lab data.  there's no point in losing points over not following directions/procedure
In one lab after the event the lecturer realied the primer he had given us was out of date and useless.
Had we 'fixed' our data we would have got zero marks.
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Dilbert_X
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presidentsheep wrote:

someone needs to teach me how to do that, I can never work out how to do it properly on the new excel.
Anyone got a better program?
Just use the equations directly....
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unnamednewbie13
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presidentsheep wrote:

someone needs to teach me how to do that, I can never work out how to do it properly on the new excel.
Anyone got a better program?
Graphs? Excel's fairly simple for graphing. Lay the data out roughly the way you want it to appear, then fire.

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unnamednewbie13
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Uzique wrote:

Macbeth wrote:

I am probably going to end up being a teacher. I am less than happy about that. Well sorta. High school doesn't seem too bad and I think I would enjoy college level (if I decided to invest in higher degrees). Elementary education though...god damn.
over here to teach in elementary/high schools you have to do a one-year 'postgraduate course in education' which looks really dull and tedious. i could never do that job - respect to you if you go for it. it's an important job. and yeah, the holidays aren't bad, either. plenty of time to take up another pursuit, or another freelance job on the side. teachers over here are paid a pretty decent wage, too, especially if you land a job in a private school. there are far worse career options!
One of the irritating mottos over here is "if you can't do, teach." There's especially a ton of it going on in fields like engineering and architecture.
Dilbert_X
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Its a fact though.

Its one thing to teach part time while working, or after retiring from a career to pass on what you've learned.

Going into teaching straight out of college is for people who can't do, or qualified in something for which the only available career is teaching.

Plus its got to be painfully dull teaching the exact same curriculum year after year, at primary or junior school level even worse.
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HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5482|Bolingbrook, Illinois
or.....

maybe they like to teach?

honestly, that's one of the most retarded things i've ever heard.  just shoot yourself
Chardee MacDennis
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+130|4552|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

HaiBai wrote:

or.....

maybe they like to teach?

honestly, that's one of the most retarded things i've ever heard.  just shoot yourself
I agree.  If the teachers are stupid then why are we going to school?
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Dilbert_X
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HaiBai wrote:

or.....

maybe they like to teach?

honestly, that's one of the most retarded things i've ever heard.  just shoot yourself
Do you want to teach 8 year olds?

I'd rather shoot myself.
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Chardee MacDennis
Green Man
+130|4552|Always Sunny in Philadelphia

Dilbert_X wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

or.....

maybe they like to teach?

honestly, that's one of the most retarded things i've ever heard.  just shoot yourself
Do you want to teach 8 year olds?

I'd rather shoot myself.
To be fair that is crazy to me but so are the people who clean skyscraper windows.
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unnamednewbie13
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Its a fact though.

Its one thing to teach part time while working, or after retiring from a career to pass on what you've learned.

Going into teaching straight out of college is for people who can't do, or qualified in something for which the only available career is teaching.

Plus its got to be painfully dull teaching the exact same curriculum year after year, at primary or junior school level even worse.
It depends on what you're teaching. If your preference is for base academia, then there's really not much of a "field" you can lose yourself in awhile before you return to teaching. If you're going to teach stuff like networking and medicine, then you should really go get some actual experience before returning to teach.

Dull is subjective. Some teachers enjoy what they do, even if only a minor fraction of their students "choose" to retain anything after the year's out.


Dilbert_X wrote:

HaiBai wrote:

or.....

maybe they like to teach?

honestly, that's one of the most retarded things i've ever heard.  just shoot yourself
Do you want to teach 8 year olds?

I'd rather shoot myself.
Why is that so horrid? Teach kids good study habits early on and it's going to help them later in life, and you've been a good influence.
Dilbert_X
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I don't know, teaching eight year olds something I learned when I was eight, doesn't really seem that inspiring.

I don't know any teacher who doesn't hate their job with a passion.
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