presidentsheep
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Cybargs wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

LAB REPORT TIME. I still don't know how to write these things.

edit: has anyone actually written one of these things? I always think I'm just writing bullshit.
oh god i remembered writing one in year 10
isnt it just hypothesis, test methods, results, conclusions?
If it's an informal one its:
Introduction
Method
Results
Analysis
Conclusion

Analysis and conclusion seem pretty pointless to separate to me.
I'd type my pc specs out all fancy again but teh mods would remove it. Again.
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5483|Bolingbrook, Illinois
lolol lab reports are so much fun.  thank you ap chemistry.

btw, does anyone know if lead is colorless in a solution?  or in other words, can the concentration of lead be determined in an aqueous solution using beer's law?

i was gonna say yes but then realized that it won't work if it's colorless, and i'm not sure if it is
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5357|London, England

HaiBai wrote:

lolol lab reports are so much fun.  thank you ap chemistry.

btw, does anyone know if lead is colorless in a solution?  or in other words, can the concentration of lead be determined in an aqueous solution using beer's law?

i was gonna say yes but then realized that it won't work if it's colorless, and i'm not sure if it is
It's colorless, you'd have to use a centrifuge to get it to settle. There is a marker you can use to turn the solution (white, I think?) a certain color to test for it but it's been so long that I don't remember. Chem 152 is many moons ago now.

Last edited by Jay (2011-11-15 07:52:18)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5483|Bolingbrook, Illinois
yeah i was thinking about saying something like that.  but instead, i think ill just say that you should use another type of spectroscopy, such as:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Atomic_abs … ectroscopy
Aries_37
arrivederci frog
+368|6574|London

PrivateVendetta wrote:

All of them. They're all worthless. Everyone and anyone has a degree now.
Such wisdom lol. I'm guessing I should just drop out of medical school and learn to fly planes? Because fuck medical degrees, how am I supposed to get a job with that..
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6470
everyone has a degree now aries, haven't you heard? and medical school? they're not even in the russell/1994 group, so you're definitely fucked.
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(HUN)Rudebwoy
Member
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Yes, lead is colorless in most aqueous solutions. It can form precipitates in various colors but it's useless for spectrophotometry.

A much more cheaper test to determine the lead concentration is complexometric titration, or more specifically chelatometric titration with EDTE.
You just add some nitric acid to your solution and as much urotropin to reach(but dont exceed) a pH of 5, add a small amount of methyl thymol blue as an indicator and titrate with a known concentracion of EDTE until your blue solution turns yellow.
Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5357|London, England

(HUN)Rudebwoy wrote:

Yes, lead is colorless in most aqueous solutions. It can form precipitates in various colors but it's useless for spectrophotometry.

A much more cheaper test to determine the lead concentration is complexometric titration, or more specifically chelatometric titration with EDTE.
You just add some nitric acid to your solution and as much urotropin to reach(but dont exceed) a pH of 5, add a small amount of methyl thymol blue as an indicator and titrate with a known concentracion of EDTE until your blue solution turns yellow.
Ahh, there's the correct answer. Lab memories came flooding back as I read that.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Spark
liquid fluoride thorium reactor
+874|6674|Canberra, AUS

presidentsheep wrote:

Spark wrote:

presidentsheep wrote:

1/3rd of Physics graduates at my uni go onto further research (shit pay)
1/3rd go to research (again, shit)

1/3rd go to law/banking and finance/usual city shit. (good pay)

Dunno where the idea that the sciences pay well comes from. Engineering sure, natural sciences no.
has it struck you that this is what they actually want to be doing?
Yeah, it's pretty obvious. I want to go into research myself. I'm just saying people tend to do physics more out of personal interest than the high pay that some wrongly believe you get.
the difficulty curve is as much a factor in that as anything else tbf. especially once you get to more advanced quantum + classical em + stat mech.

what do you think you'll be specialising in out of interest?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6692
Allow me to offer my academic advice in the fields of: anthropology/archaeology, to all who have questions. I'm starting to forget everything I've learned. I need questions to rejuvenate my memory.

Level of skill: Super Senior
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5483|Bolingbrook, Illinois
what is anthropology
FFLink
There is.
+1,380|6690|Devon, England
Study of people?
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6470
hahahaha
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Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5542|Toronto

Superior Mind wrote:

Allow me to offer my academic advice in the fields of: anthropology/archaeology, to all who have questions. I'm starting to forget everything I've learned. I need questions to rejuvenate my memory.

Level of skill: Super Senior
What is man's natural state? Are we truly social beings? Can we ever prove that man is fundamentally a loner and that society is unnatural?
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
HaiBai
Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me
+304|5483|Bolingbrook, Illinois
that was a joke btw

I SWEAR
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6692

Pochsy wrote:

Superior Mind wrote:

Allow me to offer my academic advice in the fields of: anthropology/archaeology, to all who have questions. I'm starting to forget everything I've learned. I need questions to rejuvenate my memory.

Level of skill: Super Senior
What is man's natural state? Are we truly social beings? Can we ever prove that man is fundamentally a loner and that society is unnatural?
Man's natural state* is living in groups of 20-50 as egalitarian hunters and gatherers or as nomads. Society arose from natural evolution of the human animal. The superiority of our mind is reflective of the superiority of our bodily form. Society is natural and so not invalid in anyway. A man called Homo sapiens will never be proven to be fundamentally a loner.

*The natural state of man assumes the state of man as he is part of nature-- without the disposition of modernity in any sense. A man who lived as an integral part of an ecosystem, not as a force of control and dominance over his ecosystem.

Last edited by Superior Mind (2011-11-15 17:43:58)

Jay
Bork! Bork! Bork!
+2,006|5357|London, England
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6470
careful sup, jay knows more than you about your lesser subject. he read a book about it once from the 'popular non-fiction' charts of amazon.

your lowly humanities subject isn't worth discussion here.
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6692
My education reached beyond the bounds of the humanities- into the natural sciences.
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6470
you are truly scaling great heights, young scholar, but mount engineering still commands the loftiest peak
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Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6692
I have respect for engineers. They are able to understand the world in a very functional way.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5585

I am probably going to end up being a teacher. I am less than happy about that. Well sorta. High school doesn't seem too bad and I think I would enjoy college level (if I decided to invest in higher degrees). Elementary education though...god damn.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-11-15 18:42:21)

Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
+1,755|6692
Summer vacations for the rest of your working life aint bad.
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5542|Toronto

Macbeth wrote:

I am probably going to end up being a teacher. I am less than happy about that. Well sorta. High school doesn't seem too bad and I think I would enjoy college level (if I decided to invest in higher degrees). Elementary education though...god damn.
Why do you have to resort to teaching? What's led you to conclude that teaching is the likeliest path?
The shape of an eye in front of the ocean, digging for stones and throwing them against its window pane. Take it down dreamer, take it down deep. - Other Families
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6470

Macbeth wrote:

I am probably going to end up being a teacher. I am less than happy about that. Well sorta. High school doesn't seem too bad and I think I would enjoy college level (if I decided to invest in higher degrees). Elementary education though...god damn.
over here to teach in elementary/high schools you have to do a one-year 'postgraduate course in education' which looks really dull and tedious. i could never do that job - respect to you if you go for it. it's an important job. and yeah, the holidays aren't bad, either. plenty of time to take up another pursuit, or another freelance job on the side. teachers over here are paid a pretty decent wage, too, especially if you land a job in a private school. there are far worse career options!
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