EA's Origin may be glorified spyware, causes mass upset

2011-11-01 18:30:26

#26

HaiBai: Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me; +304|5492|Bolingbrook, Illinois

i really wouldn't care at all if it wasn't for this part:

EA can identify your computer, operating system, installed/uninstalled software/hardware, and use that information for marketing purposes while merrily sharing it with third party companies

sorry, but letting ea scan my entire computer so it can procede to sell my information to random advertising companies is too much

2011-11-01 19:11:03

#27

jmsprovan: Member; +18|5820|Alba

HaiBai wrote:
i really wouldn't care at all if it wasn't for this part:
EA can identify your computer, operating system, installed/uninstalled software/hardware, and use that information for marketing purposes while merrily sharing it with third party companies
sorry, but letting ea scan my entire computer so it can procede to sell my information to random advertising companies is too much

Well the wording of the EULA rules that out

"We may also share that data with our third party service providers in a form that does not personally identify you."

Collecting for targeted advertising would be pretty useless if they didn't know who you are.

2011-11-01 20:21:54

#28

Adams_BJ: Russian warship, go fuck yourself; +2,053|6631|Little Bentcock

HaiBai wrote:
i really wouldn't care at all if it wasn't for this part:
EA can identify your computer, operating system, installed/uninstalled software/hardware, and use that information for marketing purposes while merrily sharing it with third party companies
sorry, but letting ea scan my entire computer so it can procede to sell my information to random advertising companies is too much

Wheres my tin hat!?
Did you even read the EULA yourself or are you just spouting off what other paranoid people have said? Who also probably havent read it..

2011-11-01 20:43:30

#29

BVC: Member; +325|6704

If this EULA had been well-known before pre-orders opened, would sales of the game have been as high?

2011-11-01 20:46:31

#30

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6745|Oxferd Ohire

prolly. vocal minority. many dont care

2011-11-01 20:54:47

#31

FloppY_: +1,010|6294|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Pubic wrote:
If this EULA had been well-known before pre-orders opened, would sales of the game have been as high?

12 year olds don't care about such things, they just want their tacticool shooter :3

Last edited by FloppY_ (2011-11-01 20:55:31)

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2011-11-01 20:58:51

#32

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6745|Oxferd Ohire

and people who arent paranoid

2011-11-01 20:59:11

#33

Adams_BJ: Russian warship, go fuck yourself; +2,053|6631|Little Bentcock

Pubic wrote:
If this EULA had been well-known before pre-orders opened, would sales of the game have been as high?

Yes. If people actually took the time to read and understand it they'd realise there is no threat to.. Well anything.

2011-11-01 22:17:47

#34

HaiBai: Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me; +304|5492|Bolingbrook, Illinois

Adams_BJ wrote:
HaiBai wrote:
i really wouldn't care at all if it wasn't for this part:
EA can identify your computer, operating system, installed/uninstalled software/hardware, and use that information for marketing purposes while merrily sharing it with third party companies
sorry, but letting ea scan my entire computer so it can procede to sell my information to random advertising companies is too much
Wheres my tin hat!?
Did you even read the EULA yourself or are you just spouting off what other paranoid people have said? Who also probably havent read it..

why would i read the EULA? i don't even own the game, i'm going off of the article

2011-11-01 22:31:11

#35

Adams_BJ: Russian warship, go fuck yourself; +2,053|6631|Little Bentcock

HaiBai wrote:
Adams_BJ wrote:
HaiBai wrote:
i really wouldn't care at all if it wasn't for this part:

sorry, but letting ea scan my entire computer so it can procede to sell my information to random advertising companies is too much
Wheres my tin hat!?
Did you even read the EULA yourself or are you just spouting off what other paranoid people have said? Who also probably havent read it..
why would i read the EULA? i don't even own the game, i'm going off of the article

Well the article is misinformed.

2011-11-02 01:32:06

#36

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6352

Well according to RPS EA revised the EULA a few weeks ago, because it conflicted with state law in some countries. In it´s current form, it allegedly is against German state law, according to Eurogamer.
No matter how deep the scanning and data collecting might be, I still feel a bit ...pimped out. We are becoming the product.

https://www.abload.de/img/bf3-bf2ssig0250wvn.jpg

2011-11-08 00:41:39

#37

Sisco: grandmaster league revivalist; +493|6352

So, I just fired Origin up since a few weeks and it updated and shortly after auto-detected Bad Company 2 on my machine, which did not show up during the Bf3 Beta. It definately scans for EA products

2011-11-08 04:55:48

#38

jsnipy: ...; +3,276|6531|...

Third party can mean CDN's and edge platforms.

2011-11-08 05:07:52

#39

DrunkFace: Germans did 911; +427|6690|Disaster Free Zone

Shem wrote:
eusgen wrote:
Shem wrote:
if you pirate they risk going out of business
wut
Ive alot of friends working in the game industry, and I've known quite a few who have been laid off and worry about their jobs tbh

make better games.

2011-11-08 06:03:24

#40

I'm Jamesey: Do a Research Noob; +506|6141|Scotland!

DrunkFace wrote:
Shem wrote:
eusgen wrote:

wut
Ive alot of friends working in the game industry, and I've known quite a few who have been laid off and worry about their jobs tbh
make better games.

this

2011-11-08 06:12:00

#41

-Whiteroom-: Pineapplewhat; +572|6667|BC, Canada

I'm Jamesey wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:
Shem wrote:

Ive alot of friends working in the game industry, and I've known quite a few who have been laid off and worry about their jobs tbh
make better games.
this

Doesnt matter, at EA they work their ass off for 9 months then get laid off till production starts on the next game...

2011-11-08 06:25:23

#42

thepilot91: Member; +64|6244|Åland!

maybe a little bit OT: but I can seem to be able to start bf3 with steam running

2011-11-08 06:50:19

#43

globefish23: sophisticated slacker; +334|6332|Graz, Austria

thepilot91 wrote:
maybe a little bit OT: but I can seem to be able to start bf3 with steam running

Yes, why should that not work?
EA/Origin doesn't restrict you from running its competitor's digital download platfrom, does it?

The question is, can you run BF3 with Steam instead of Origin?

2011-11-08 06:58:08

#44

TimmmmaaaaH: Damn, I... had something for this; +725|6448|Brisbane, Australia

-Whiteroom- wrote:
I'm Jamesey wrote:
DrunkFace wrote:

make better games.
this
Doesnt matter, at EA they work their ass off for 9 months then get laid off till production starts on the next game...

Yeh it isnt a game quality thing, its just the games industry. You are crazy or an idiot if you want to get into the games industry for your career.

https://bf3s.com/sigs/5e6a35c97adb20771c7b713312c0307c23a7a36a.png

2011-11-08 07:12:52

#45

FloppY_: +1,010|6294|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

EA bought and shut down most of the good developers in the 90s

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2011-11-09 07:21:46

#46

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|6741|Cambridge, England

Sisco wrote:
Well according to RPS EA revised the EULA a few weeks ago, because it conflicted with state law in some countries. In it´s current form, it allegedly is against German state law, according to Eurogamer.
No matter how deep the scanning and data collecting might be, I still feel a bit ...pimped out. We are becoming the product.

>State law in some countries
>State law countries
>State countries

2011-11-09 07:23:38

#47

FloppY_: +1,010|6294|Denmark aka Automotive Hell

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Sisco wrote:
Well according to RPS EA revised the EULA a few weeks ago, because it conflicted with state law in some countries. In it´s current form, it allegedly is against German state law, according to Eurogamer.
No matter how deep the scanning and data collecting might be, I still feel a bit ...pimped out. We are becoming the product.
>State law in some countries
>State law countries
>State countries

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/State_%28polity%29

Your thoughts, insights, and musings on this matter intrigue me

2011-11-09 07:25:06

#48

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,736|6745|Oxferd Ohire

US state law sounds silly to you also then

2011-11-09 11:12:16

#49

Cheeky_Ninja06: Member; +52|6741|Cambridge, England

At the very best it is a redundant word. German state law is just German law. Meh.

2011-11-09 11:46:02

#50

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,973|6640|949

TimmmmaaaaH wrote:
-Whiteroom- wrote:
I'm Jamesey wrote:

this
Doesnt matter, at EA they work their ass off for 9 months then get laid off till production starts on the next game...
Yeh it isnt a game quality thing, its just the games industry. You are crazy or an idiot if you want to get into the games industry for your career.

its the creative content industry. It's fairly standard for game development, movies, advertising. You actually go to a company like EA if you want to be employed year-round. Most smaller studios can't afford to keep an operation running year round

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