recording the radio - meh, never really given it a second thoughtWinston_Churchill wrote:
Whats your opinion on people recording the radio? That was done long before the internet
What about watching TV shows otherwise unavailable in your country? Or downloading a TV show when you already have and pay for a cable subscription and its freely available on the show's website?
are you trying to find some inconsistency? Recording TV shows with PVRs - that's an agreement the cable provider and content provider are involved in, not me.Winston_Churchill wrote:
okay, but its not available until sometimes years after it airs.
and so theres nothing wrong with downloading it if its available on their website? what if you wanted it for offline viewing while travelling?
what about recording tv shows with PVRs?
recording the radio is still technically 'copyright infringement'
Winston_Churchill wrote:
and so theres nothing wrong with downloading it if its available on their website? what if you wanted it for offline viewing while travelling?
I'm just telling you that you do it (pirate) because you are lazy and/or cheap. Justify it however you want, just don't deny it.K-J wrote:
If developers/artists/content creators want their product/efforts/toils available for free, they will make that decision themselves
so it's only not ok if you pay for pirated material? wtf is with your logic my friend?FloppY_ wrote:
Piracy is one thing, but paying for pirated stuff... not cool mang
Don't know about the US, they do here:Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Piracy is like radio, but bigger.
http://www.apra-amcos.com.au/About/Roya … lties.aspxAPRA administers the public performance and communication right in our members' musical works. We do this by collecting royalties for the performance and communication of music from a number of sources. We enter into licence agreements with radio and television stations, discos, fitness centres, cinemas, live concert promoters, and other businesses that provide music for their customers. For example: either through a music on hold system or via webcast over the internet. In return for the right to perform or communicate music, these clients pay us a licence fee.
American radio stations don't pay royalties to the labels or musicians that they play the music of. Some artists are now trying to get a piece of the advertising revenue, but profit margins are slim to none on most stations and the traditional view is that they have a symbiotic relationship. Symbiotic because the radio stations give free advertising to the artist and label by playing their music which, in theory, increases record sales.Jaekus wrote:
Don't know about the US, they do here:Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.http://www.apra-amcos.com.au/About/Roya … lties.aspxAPRA administers the public performance and communication right in our members' musical works. We do this by collecting royalties for the performance and communication of music from a number of sources. We enter into licence agreements with radio and television stations, discos, fitness centres, cinemas, live concert promoters, and other businesses that provide music for their customers. For example: either through a music on hold system or via webcast over the internet. In return for the right to perform or communicate music, these clients pay us a licence fee.
We get a royalty payout every six months from our radio/tv airplay and gigs.
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if they tried something like that here all radio stations would instantly become talk radio profit margins are that slim.Jaekus wrote:
In Australia the radio/tv/etc. pay a licencing fee to APRA, and submit their playlists. Then APRA, on behalf of the artist/composer/copyright owner, distributes the royalties every six months (used to be twelve, changed a few months ago) after taking 14% for themselves to cover admin costs. They do this worldwide on behalf of Australian artists through their affiliates in other countries.
Doesn't the US have a similar system in place? I genuinely don't know enough to comment about what happens in your neck of the woods.
We've been through this before, yes they are.Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Piracy is like radio, but bigger.
Yes, in the posts above yours.Dilbert_X wrote:
We've been through this before, yes they are.Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.
Yes, they are. Every time a song is played on the radio, the artists get a cut.Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:
Piracy is like radio, but bigger.
Again, it's been covered already a few posts just above yours - http://forums.bf2s.com/viewtopic.php?pi … 9#p3684199FEOS wrote:
Yes, they are. Every time a song is played on the radio, the artists get a cut.Jay wrote:
No they aren't.FEOS wrote:
Royalties are paid for radio.
The reason we have copyrights (and patents) is to secure profits for the creator, and thus secure the incentive to create.AussieReaper wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
People who torrent stuff are receiving a product without paying for it against the wishes of the owner. That is pretty much stealing.
What exactly am I stealing here?
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Why would American law? That's what he's asking.Jaekus wrote:
You live in Australia. Why would Swedish law applyAussieReaper wrote:
For which country?Jaekus wrote:
Try looking up "copyright infringement" sometime and come back to this when you have a better understanding.
Or are you going to argue that US law should apply to me but Sweedish copyright law doesn't?
Why do you think Sweden can disregard this 'international law'? Maybe because it's not international?Jaekus wrote:
when international copyright here applies regardless of where the copyrighted material was produced?
AussieReaper wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
People who torrent stuff are receiving a product without paying for it against the wishes of the owner. That is pretty much stealing.
What exactly am I stealing here?
