Virgin airlines is making a killing right now on the domestic market.FEOS wrote:
So it sounds like an excellent opportunity for the others to grab market share.
Wrong Alan Joyce targeted on Twitter
An American university student named Alan Joyce has been wrongfully targeted on Twitter as people all over the world react angrily at Qantas's decision to ground its entire fleet.
Channel Ten's political reporter Hugh Riminton was among those who had the wrong guy.
"If you're so proud of taking the 'hard decision' how about making one about your pay @alanjoyce?" he tweeted.
But the younger Alan Joyce set the record straight with some cheeky tweets.
"I'm no more CEO of Qantas than @willsmith is a famous movie actor," the student from California's Stanford University tweeted.
"I'm glad to see someone appreciating my impeccable American accent, but I'm guessing you're looking for a different Alan Joyce."
When the news was revealed, the tweeters had sympathy.
"Maybe @alanjoyce, ComSci student from California should get a free trip to The Ashes for the unexpected bollocking he's getting," Carline Wardrop tweeted.
"After feeling sorry for @theashes last year I managed to help [her] get a flight to Australia. Sadly for @alanjoyce there's no flights just now," tweeted Marcus Westbury.
Last year Qantas offered an American woman with the username @theashes a free trip to Australia after she was bombarded with updates about the cricket series.
Alan Joyce, CEO of Qantas, does not appear to have his own Twitter account but the airline is urging passengers to follow @QantasAirways for updates on the grounding of its fleet.
Yep. Killer opportunity, the "golden triangle" of eastern routes (Sydney-Melbourne-Brisbane) is one of the most profitable and lucrative domestic route networks in the world.FEOS wrote:
So it sounds like an excellent opportunity for the others to grab market share.
You're lucky this is DST you're posting in. Otherwise, the jokes would be flying. Unlike Qantas.Cybargs wrote:
and bigger seats compared to Asian airlines
The union has caused enough flights to be grounded here and there, piecemeal.Jaekus wrote:
How are the Unions to blame for the fleet being grounded? It was Joyce's call. I don't think they saw this coming, no one did.
http://finance.ninemsn.com.au/newsbusin … -pay-risesA top 747 pilot can currently earn up to $500,000 a year, while an average pilot still brings home $350,000, according to a News Limited report.
Jetstar pilots, who can accumulate a $150,000 training debt to the airline, earn just $34,000 per year.
"The licensed engineers union is demanding significant pay increases and a guarantee from Qantas that no change will be made to old work practices on new generation aircraft, and that no productivity improvements will be introduced."
The total cost of the ALAEA's claim is $165 million - plus $95 million to build a new hangar. Details of the EBA claim from the ALAEA include:
- Around 15 per cent increase in wages and allowances over three years. The remuneration package of the average licensed engineer would be around $170,000 in January 2013 if we agreed to the ALAEA's claim.
- A guarantee that no changes be made to current work practices including changes which improve productivity or that are in line with developments in modern aircraft technology.
- Introduction of a time serving classification structure where workers receive additional pay increases based on years of service rather than merit or qualifications.
"If the union's demands were accepted it would make Qantas significantly less competitive and hold us back from introducing modern maintenance techniques used by airlines around the world," Ms Wirth said.
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They're just offshoring a lot of jobs which is a good thing. Australians are overpayed compared to the rest of the world.Jaekus wrote:
Qantas are looking to cut 1,000 jobs in the next 12 months, that's something you've glossed over here, and is part of the core of the industrial dispute.
Offshoring = 1,000 Australians losing their jobs. Also means safety standards will drop. Yeah I know it's already like this for Jetstar and they're fine, but Qantas can't really call themselves the safest airline in the world if they start doing this.Cybargs wrote:
They're just offshoring a lot of jobs which is a good thing. Australians are overpayed compared to the rest of the world.Jaekus wrote:
Qantas are looking to cut 1,000 jobs in the next 12 months, that's something you've glossed over here, and is part of the core of the industrial dispute.
Yeah this too.Little BaBy JESUS wrote:
It's not necessarily a good thing for their Australian workers. But QANTAS has to find a way of keeping profitable. They may end up sending another 1000 jobs off shore, but the reality is that if QANTAS goes under, things would be far worse. It's in the majority of workers interests to keep the company profitable. Unless the government plans to rope in and throw some cash around.
Not necessarily. Those 1000 Aussies will probably work for other airlines, that type of unemployment isn't permanent, its temporary. Singapore Airlines and Cathay safety ratings are fine too and Qantas' largest overseas hubs are Singapore, LA and London. Just because jobs are done by some Asian dude doesn't necessarily mean the safety rating will go to shite, just means cost of living there is cheaper.Jaekus wrote:
Offshoring = 1,000 Australians losing their jobs. Also means safety standards will drop. Yeah I know it's already like this for Jetstar and they're fine, but Qantas can't really call themselves the safest airline in the world if they start doing this.Cybargs wrote:
They're just offshoring a lot of jobs which is a good thing. Australians are overpayed compared to the rest of the world.Jaekus wrote:
Qantas are looking to cut 1,000 jobs in the next 12 months, that's something you've glossed over here, and is part of the core of the industrial dispute.
As for the pay dispute, I know little about it but I'd say trying to save jobs AND get a payrise is not going to help their cause. Surprised they are doing this really, it's obvious why they're going offshore in the first place. But the Unions won't budge, which isn't helping anyone.
Then the union needs to speak to the govt about the exchange rate and crimping the miners, not demand pay rises and job security and be surprised when they find they've cut their own throats.Jaekus wrote:
Qantas are looking to cut 1,000 jobs in the next 12 months, that's something you've glossed over here, and is part of the core of the industrial dispute.
Those demands are generally par for the course over here It's all about protecting the weakest members, even if they contribute to making the overall product inferior.Dilbert_X wrote:
Or for the engineers"The licensed engineers union is demanding significant pay increases and a guarantee from Qantas that no change will be made to old work practices on new generation aircraft, and that no productivity improvements will be introduced."
The total cost of the ALAEA's claim is $165 million - plus $95 million to build a new hangar. Details of the EBA claim from the ALAEA include:
- Around 15 per cent increase in wages and allowances over three years. The remuneration package of the average licensed engineer would be around $170,000 in January 2013 if we agreed to the ALAEA's claim.
- A guarantee that no changes be made to current work practices including changes which improve productivity or that are in line with developments in modern aircraft technology.
- Introduction of a time serving classification structure where workers receive additional pay increases based on years of service rather than merit or qualifications.
"If the union's demands were accepted it would make Qantas significantly less competitive and hold us back from introducing modern maintenance techniques used by airlines around the world," Ms Wirth said.
