I'm voting justified.A McDonald’s cashier jailed for beating two irate customers with a metal rod (click here for video) says he was only trying to defend himself.
Rayon McIntosh was arrested Oct. 13 after a wild fight inside a McDonald’s in the Greenwich Village neighborhood in Manhattan.
Video recorded by a customer showed two furious women vaulting a counter to attack McIntosh after some sort of dispute.
McIntosh grabbed a metal bar and fought back with savage force, continuing to deliver crushing blows even after the women were incapacitated on the floor.
McIntosh tells the New York Daily News in a jailhouse interview published Saturday that he acted to protect himself.
He says the women came in angry, and he was just trying to keep things calm when they “attacked for no reason.”
One of the women has a fractured skull.
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too far or justified
| too far | 52% | 52% - 25 | ||||
| justified | 47% | 47% - 23 | ||||
| Total: 48 | ||||||
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What do you mean by justified? The beating or Litrecola being jailed?
Bitches asked for it. They posed a threat to the employee's well being. Not the first incident of this kind either, just the first to involve someone teaching the idiots who think they can start riots at a FF joint a lesson.
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the beating obviously. The police think he went too far in defending himself.
too far. you don't repeatedly hit someone when they're on the ground pleading for someone to stop.
you always need to do whatever possible to avoid confrontation, which includes running away. sure, if she charged after you, hit her once or twice. but once she's on the ground crying, is there a point in continuing? no.
you always need to do whatever possible to avoid confrontation, which includes running away. sure, if she charged after you, hit her once or twice. but once she's on the ground crying, is there a point in continuing? no.
He shouldn't be doing any whipping after they're down. Especially in the damn head!
-It was justified when they jumped behind the counter and went after him, this is self defense.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
Last edited by Eagle (2011-10-23 22:17:07)
I think it was the blond who was saying stop.
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oh yeah, you're right. either way, it still looks like it went too far. unless they were on the ground and wouldn't let go of his legs or somethingROGUEDD wrote:
I think it was the blond who was saying stop.
This.HaiBai wrote:
too far. you don't repeatedly hit someone when they're on the ground pleading for someone to stop.
By all means defend yourself. But don't beat someone who is on the ground.
Their gonna think twice before the next time they act like bitches I bet.Eagle wrote:
-It was justified when they jumped behind the counter and went after him, this is self defense.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
Hes gonna think about getting butt raped in jail the next time he grabs a weapon to beat someone up.
in other words, everyone winsNic wrote:
Their gonna think twice before the next time they act like bitches I bet.Eagle wrote:
-It was justified when they jumped behind the counter and went after him, this is self defense.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
Hes gonna think about getting butt raped in jail the next time he grabs a weapon to beat someone up.
Pretty much.HaiBai wrote:
in other words, everyone winsNic wrote:
Their gonna think twice before the next time they act like bitches I bet.Eagle wrote:
-It was justified when they jumped behind the counter and went after him, this is self defense.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
Hes gonna think about getting butt raped in jail the next time he grabs a weapon to beat someone up.
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Justified until he kept hitting them. They were down.
Here's the catch, though. People who haven't been trained to fight are usually going to let their emotions take control.
Here's the catch, though. People who haven't been trained to fight are usually going to let their emotions take control.
Not if he had given one of them brain damage.Nic wrote:
Their gonna think twice before the next time they act like bitches I bet.
Inconclusive. You can't actually see them after they are behind the counter. Leaves room for the possibility that they were still trying to get up and at him...
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Around 0:32 or 0:33 she slapped him.
She couldve had anything on her
She couldve had anything on her
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Assault charge on her ass too.Spearhead wrote:
Around 0:32 or 0:33 she slapped him.
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So A. She instigated it and B. She jumped over the counter in pursuit. I'd say those two really nullify anything the guy did in the defense. Sure he went over the top but how many of us think rationally once adrenaline starts pumping. He was thinking "holy shit that crazy bitch might have a knife"
Last edited by Spearhead (2011-10-23 22:50:21)
i want the woman screaming to be jailed tbh
Eagle wrote:
-It was justified when they jumped behind the counter and went after him, this is self defense.
-It became assault, however, when he continued beating the shit out of them while they were incapacitated and on the ground.
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This times 10.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Justified until he kept hitting them. They were down.
Here's the catch, though. People who haven't been trained to fight are usually going to let their emotions take control.
I appreciate you should stop when they go down as it becomes assault but in reality it would be very difficult to stop when you think you are fighting for your life.
Lol, wasn't that the reasoning for the Rodney King not guilty verdict? "Your honor, he kept trying to get up even though seven of us were beating him with billy clubs for a good five minutes!"tuckergustav wrote:
Inconclusive. You can't actually see them after they are behind the counter. Leaves room for the possibility that they were still trying to get up and at him...
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I'm just glad he was wearing gloves. We don't need blood on a big mac