Kmar
Truth is my Bitch
+5,695|6858|132 and Bush



CNN"[Updated at 1:13 p.m. ET] U.S. President Barack Obama, announcing Friday that "the rest of our troops will come home by the end of the year," said: "After nearly nine years, America's war in Iraq will be over."

The new partnership with Iraq will be "strong and enduring" after U.S. troops leave the country, Obama said in the White House briefing room. The United States will continue its interest in a strong, stable Iraq after U.S. troops leave, the president said.

"Today I can say that our troops in Iraq will definitely be home for the holidays," Obama said.

https://i.imgur.com/PgcUF.jpgAbout 39,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, and the U.S. had wanted to keep from 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq past 2011 to aid in training and security. But the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates the U.S. troops leave by year's end, and the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011.

Of the 39,000 troops in Iraq, only about 150, a negligible force, will remain to assist in arms sales.

The negotiations were strained following WikiLeaks' release of a diplomatic cable that alleged Iraqi civilians, including children, were killed in a 2006 raid by American troops rather than in an airstrike as initially reported by the U.S. military.

U.S. troops have already started the drawdown - a brigade from Fort Bliss, Texas, that was originally scheduled to be among the very last to leave Iraq was being pulled out of the country months ahead of its planned departure, military officials told CNN last week.

[Updated at 12:47 p.m. ET] The scheduled departure of virtually all U.S. troops from Iraq by the end of the year will allow the United States to "say definitively that the Iraq war is over," a White House official said Friday.

[Initial post] Virtually all U.S. troops will be out of Iraq by the end of the year as the current Status of Forces Agreement with Iraq dictates, a U.S. official told CNN Friday.

A small number of U.S. troops will be attached to the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad.

This month, the United States and Iraq had been unable to come to an agreement on key issues regarding legal immunity for U.S. troops who would remain in Iraq after the end of the year, effectively ending discussion of maintaining a significant American force presence beyond 2011.

About 39,000 U.S. troops are in Iraq, and the U.S. wanted to keep from 3,000 to 5,000 troops in Iraq past 2011.

U.S. President Barack Obama is expected to make a statement about Iraq around 12:45 p.m. Friday, according to a White House official.
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NeXuS
Shock it till ya know it
+375|6599|Atlanta, Georgia
I'm glad to hear that.

but

Just in time to get more people to vote for another presidency.
Spearhead
Gulf coast redneck hippy
+731|6947|Tampa Bay Florida

NeXuS wrote:

I'm glad to hear that.

but

Just in time to get more people to vote for another presidency.
Well thank Bush for that. 

How many people think "failed to reach an agreement" is just a fancy media way of saying "they told us to fuck the hell off"?
Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6256|...

Bachmann wrote:

The United States needed a working democratic partnership in Iraq and we should have demanded that Iraq repay the full cost of liberating them given their rich oil revenues. I call on the president to return to the negotiating table with Iraq and lead from the front and not from weakness in Iraq and in the world.
woman is a complete moron
inane little opines
Superior Mind
(not macbeth)
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Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5959|College Park, MD

Shocking wrote:

Bachmann wrote:

The United States needed a working democratic partnership in Iraq and we should have demanded that Iraq repay the full cost of liberating them given their rich oil revenues. I call on the president to return to the negotiating table with Iraq and lead from the front and not from weakness in Iraq and in the world.
woman is a complete moron
rofl

as if they asked us to liberate them
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-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5731|Ventura, California
2003 should have been 1990 + capturing Saddam and getting the hell out within year's end.

The US military is not a nation building force.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Stingray24
Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy
+1,060|6702|The Land of Scott Walker

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

rofl

as if they asked us to liberate them
Good times under Saddam, we spoiled the party.
-Sh1fty-
plundering yee booty
+510|5731|Ventura, California

Stingray24 wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

rofl

as if they asked us to liberate them
Good times under Saddam, we spoiled the party.
inorite

They were having a great time with all the oppression and chemical mass murders.
And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.
Macbeth
Banned
+2,444|5843

Wasn't a threat to us and was a balance against Iran. Even if Saddam and family ate children for breakfast, lunch, and dinner, Iraq would still have been a mistake.

My bad, I just jumped in and thought Shifty was defending the Iraq war along the lines of "Saddam was a bad man". I didn't see the Bachmann thing.

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Dilbert_X
The X stands for
+1,815|6363|eXtreme to the maX

Spearhead wrote:

How many people think "failed to reach an agreement" is just a fancy media way of saying "they told us to fuck the hell off"?
They didn't tell you to "fuck the hell off", just that if you wanted troops to stay they would not have immunity from Iraqi laws.

Not sure why that would be unacceptable, ask your President I guess.
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Shocking
sorry you feel that way
+333|6256|...
Demanding a 1t compensation for 'liberating them' while the country is still trying to recover and while tens of thousands of Iraqis died in the war is just evil. Next to that it would confirm Arab suspicion that the US is only in Iraq for oil riches and make lots of power flow to Iran as a result + probably spark renewed insurgency. As the economist stated it would be extortion.

Whereas Palin makes you go "oh palin" because she's so dumb, Bachmann is stupid and mean-spirited. Much worse. She should never ever be in a position of real power... ever.
inane little opines
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5959|College Park, MD

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Stingray24 wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

rofl

as if they asked us to liberate them
Good times under Saddam, we spoiled the party.
inorite

They were having a great time with all the oppression and chemical mass murders.
hey saggers, that's not what I meant, I thought it was ridiculous that Bachmann would expect any sort of compensation from Iraq.

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2011-10-22 03:51:43)

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FEOS
Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate
+1,182|6668|'Murka

Dilbert_X wrote:

Spearhead wrote:

How many people think "failed to reach an agreement" is just a fancy media way of saying "they told us to fuck the hell off"?
They didn't tell you to "fuck the hell off", just that if you wanted troops to stay they would not have immunity from Iraqi laws.

Not sure why that would be unacceptable, ask your President I guess.
Believe that's a standard in most SOFAs. If they violate the law there, they get brought back here and prosecuted as if they committed the crime in the US.
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