Kmar
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https://i.imgur.com/BaiJn.jpgA rightwing commentator has been found guilty of breaking Australian discrimination laws by implying that fair-skinned Aborigines chose to identify as indigenous for profit and career advancement.

Federal court justice Mordy Bromberg ruled that fair-skinned Aborigines were likely to have been "offended, insulted, humiliated or intimidated by the imputations" included in columnist Andrew Bolt's two articles published by the Herald Sun newspaper, part of Rupert Murdoch's News Corps empire, in Melbourne in 2009.

Bromberg ruled out Bolt and his publisher's defence under a clause of the Racial Discrimination Act that exempts "fair comment" because the articles "contained errors of fact, distortions of the truth and inflammatory and provocative language".

Bromberg said he would prohibit reproduction of the offending articles and consider ordering the newspaper to publish a correction if it did not print an apology.

Bolt, who writes opinion pieces for newspapers around Australia and hosts a national weekly public affairs TV programme, described the ruling as a defeat for freedom of speech.

One of the articles in question. <-- Read

I must be missing something here. It seems like an unneeded silencing to me. Even if you disagree with the man, it's better to have people like him in full view. I understand the desire to watch your "offensive" remarks. But not going so far as to treat Aborigines like children, incapable of standing up for themselves.

He's an oped columnist right? This looks retaliatory to me.
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unnamednewbie13
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Without reading the full article (if it wasn't posted), did they just fine him?
Kmar
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Bolt wrote:

Heiss's father was Austrian and her mother only part-Aboriginal. What's more, she was raised in Sydney and educated at Saint Claire's Catholic College. She, too, could identify as a member of more than one race, if joining up to any at all was important.

Heiss wrote:

I believe the result means that Australia will have a higher quality and more responsible media and that to some degree the persecution of Aboriginal people in the press will be lessened," author Anita Heiss, who was one of the Aboriginal witnesses in the case, said.
Persecution? You have got to be kidding me.
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He does have a point. You get a shit ton of benefits ticking yourself off as aborginal. Guess it's the same in the US when someones 1/32 part native american they claim "native american" and get benefits.
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Kmar
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The thing is, he is talking about individuals. Those same individuals he called out are claiming the entire race is being persecuted. I can see that he may have lacked a little bit of tact in the way he framed his opinion.. but I sure as hell don't see anything overtly offensive to Aborigines as race. In fact one might think his words are in defense of them.

even more to the point..
from that same controversial article.

Bolt wrote:

To me, this blacker-than-thou offends the deepest humanist ideals. And our "enlightened" opinion is debased when it takes a Casey Donovan, a mere Australian Idol winner, to hint at the healthier truth, saying she's proud of being Aboriginal, but "proud of being half-white, too".

In fact, let's go beyond racial pride. Beyond black and white. Let's be proud only of being human beings set on this land together, determined to find what unites us and not to invent such racist and trivial excuses to divide. Deal?
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Rush Limbaugh got into hot water with the NFL over racial comments. Guess you gotta be careful not to hurt any precious feelings these days.
Kmar
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But it wasn't illegal. Same with Imus.
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Little BaBy JESUS
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Does it say anywhere what his actual punishment was? I couldn't find it. Personally, I don't really like Bolt but the article really didn't seem that bad.
lowing
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Does it say anywhere what his actual punishment was? I couldn't find it. Personally, I don't really like Bolt but the article really didn't seem that bad.
what the hell is wrong with your free speech laws? Especially since it would appear what was said is actually the truth. You guys actually have hurt feelings laws!!? Unreal.
Kmar
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Does it say anywhere what his actual punishment was? I couldn't find it. Personally, I don't really like Bolt but the article really didn't seem that bad.
I haven't seen it yet. But the mere fact that article supposedly broke the law is disturbing. I mean, you guys aren't exactly living under a despot...lol
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I'd be curious to find out if it's a slap on the wrist, an obscene fine or anything at all.
Dilbert_X
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Not sure why he felt the need to state the obvious when he knew he would be prosecuted.

Whats he going to say next, asians can't drive?
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lowing
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unnamednewbie13 wrote:

I'd be curious to find out if it's a slap on the wrist, an obscene fine or anything at all.
THey are calling for a published apology in the paper. As well as denying the articles further publication if I am not mistaken. Basically the punishment is censorship, and that is pretty bad for a journalist.
Kmar
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Look who filed the suit, Pat Eatock. What a noble thing to do in defense of the whole of the Aborigine race. Just go ahead and forget the fact that she was one of the individuals he called out in the article.

She's trying to silence him and his point. It's seem rather obvious that this is personal.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Not sure why he felt the need to state the obvious when he knew he would be prosecuted.

Whats he going to say next, asians can't drive?
damn,  I was waiting for you to come in here and side with the courts and the accusations...Oh well, where's Pug?
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lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Does it say anywhere what his actual punishment was? I couldn't find it. Personally, I don't really like Bolt but the article really didn't seem that bad.
what the hell is wrong with your free speech laws? Especially since it would appear what was said is actually the truth. You guys actually have hurt feelings laws!!? Unreal.
Well we don't have a bill of rights or anything like that, so it's down to the judges interpretation of the law just like any other matter.

It's mainly because a) it's a racial comment; b) it's especially touchy because it's in regard to Aboriginal people; and c) it's Melbourne, they're all hippies down there .

There have been MUCH more controversial articles than this about gender, politics, sexual orientation etc. Many Australians are just in a bit of a guilt trip over the whole invasion/wiping out the native population thing.
Kmar
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

There have been MUCH more controversial articles than this about gender, politics, sexual orientation etc. Many Australians are just in a bit of a guilt trip over the whole invasion/wiping out the native population thing.
I understand that.. believe me Americans do. But treating the race like children isn't going to help things.
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

It's mainly because a) it's a racial comment; b) it's especially touchy because it's in regard to Aboriginal people; and c) it's Melbourne, they're all hippies down there .
I like to pronounce it "Melborn" just to piss you guys off.
lowing
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Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

Does it say anywhere what his actual punishment was? I couldn't find it. Personally, I don't really like Bolt but the article really didn't seem that bad.
what the hell is wrong with your free speech laws? Especially since it would appear what was said is actually the truth. You guys actually have hurt feelings laws!!? Unreal.
Well we don't have a bill of rights or anything like that, so it's down to the judges interpretation of the law just like any other matter.

It's mainly because a) it's a racial comment; b) it's especially touchy because it's in regard to Aboriginal people; and c) it's Melbourne, they're all hippies down there .

There have been MUCH more controversial articles than this about gender, politics, sexual orientation etc. Many Australians are just in a bit of a guilt trip over the whole invasion/wiping out the native population thing.
but does the mainstream population see through this bullshit, or is the general opinion that this guy at least is out of line and at most a racist?  Do most people agree with these hurt feelings laws and censorship?
Kmar
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Not sure why he felt the need to state the obvious when he knew he would be prosecuted.

Whats he going to say next, asians can't drive?
Maybe because he knew he would be prosecuted? .. ie, to bring this silly idea to the forefront.

I doubt he was thinking that far ahead though .
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Dilbert_X
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Probably just buying himself some publicity. Ignore him and he'll go away.
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Kmar
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lowing wrote:

Do most people agree with these hurt feelings laws and censorship?
Well you know as well as anyone that PC is alive and well.
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Little BaBy JESUS
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My guess is that it will just be a little bit of publicity, maybe a small fine to make people feel all nice about it. It's like our PM apologising to the "stolen generation" (aboriginal kids taken from their parents and put in Christian missions), it didn't actually do anything or change anyone's feelings but it made people feel like they'd at least done something.
Kmar
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Probably just buying himself some publicity. Ignore him and he'll go away.
But I think he is in the right this time! ..lol.

Well, at least his ability to express his point. Remember this suit was brought to him.
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Probably just buying himself some publicity. Ignore him and he'll go away.
Nope the opposite. This should piss people off that this guy and this article is being persecuted. Unless of course you think the govt. knows best what is good for you hear and what isn't, what is offensive and what isn't.

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