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http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/us/califo … ?hpt=hp_t2

CNN wrote:

(CNN) -- It's meant to be racist, and it's meant to be discriminatory.

And the controversial "Increase Diversity Bake Sale" hosted by the Berkeley College Republicans is still on, the club's president said, despite "grossly misguided comments" and threats aimed at supporters of the University of California, Berkeley, student group.

During the sale, scheduled for Tuesday, baked goods will be sold to white men for $2, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1, black men for 75 cents and Native American men for 25 cents. All women will get 25 cents off those prices.

The bake sale is meant to draw attention to pending legislation that would allow California universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity and national origin during the admissions process.
Student defends 'race' bake sale
Bake sale prices based on race

"We agree that the event is inherently racist, but that is the point," BCR President Shawn Lewis wrote in response to upheaval over the bake sale. "It is no more racist than giving an individual an advantage in college admissions based solely on their race (or) gender."

Similar events have been held at other colleges across the country, generally organized by college Republican groups. In some cases -- such as at Berkeley -- the plan sparked controversy and protests.

Other times, university officials stepped in.

At Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, officials shut down one of the bake sales on campus. Officials at The College of William and Mary in Virginia cut off a cookie sale, saying they were "shocked and appalled."

The University of California, Irvine, shut down a bake sale on campus, saying it was discriminatory. A bake sale at Southern Methodist University in Texas was shut down after 45 minutes because of what officials called an "unsafe environment," according to local reports.

Lewis said the bake sale at Berkeley was unanimously agreed upon by the club, whose leadership includes Asian and Hispanic students and whose membership represents a "wide variety of ethnic backgrounds."

"More than half of the voices were female," he added.

Berkeley's student government, the Associated Students of the University of California, held an emergency Senate meeting late Sunday to discuss the issue and passed a resolution that, in part, "condemns the use of discrimination whether it is in satire or in seriousness by any student group."

"I completely support the idea of BCR -- or any students on campus -- (having) political discussion," ASUC President Vishalli Loomba said. "I think student members of BCR have a full right to express their feelings, but I don't necessarily think this tactic is constructive. I strongly encourage them to engage in this dialogue in a more constructive manner, such as a forum or a town hall meeting.'

But the bake sale is intended to be a direct, "physical counterpoint" to an ASUC-sponsored phone bank -- also scheduled for Tuesday -- during which students will be encouraged to call Gov. Jerry Brown's office to support the legislation, Lewis said. The ASUC has endorsed the legislation, SB 185.

Lewis said supporters of the bake sale have received threats, including people who said they will "stop by the table only to knock it over" or "buy a cupcake just to throw it at (us)."

"Some of the threats online have gotten more specific, but we're hoping that's just emotion," he said.

While the initial feedback to the planned sale was largely in heated opposition, responses have "plateaued" and include the support of self-described Democrats, Lewis said.

Loomba, the student government president, said she is concerned about students potentially feeling ostracized due to the bake sale.

"I have heard that from numerous students who have said this makes students feel unwelcome on campus," she said. "For that reason alone, we should think about what events we have on campus."

Loomba described the situation as a "campus climate issue."

"UC Berkeley stands for a place where everyone -- regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation -- should feel inclusive," she said. "I think they should be able to express their opinion, but keep that value in mind."

As for where the bake sale proceeds will go, Lewis said the College Republicans are considering several charities.

But "because of all this controversy, we don't want to advertise the organization," he said. "We don't want to cause them problems."
So they want to stop the school from discriminating when it comes to their admissions process by promoting discrimination?
CC-Marley
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You can also walk around SF nude if you want. Fucked up city all around.



*see Pelosi*
SEREMAKER
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So


what if you're mixed ............... if i look white but can prove a native american, can I get the discount
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lowing
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

http://www.cnn.com/2011/09/26/us/california-racial-bake-sale/index.html?hpt=hp_t2

CNN wrote:

(CNN) -- It's meant to be racist, and it's meant to be discriminatory.

And the controversial "Increase Diversity Bake Sale" hosted by the Berkeley College Republicans is still on, the club's president said, despite "grossly misguided comments" and threats aimed at supporters of the University of California, Berkeley, student group.

During the sale, scheduled for Tuesday, baked goods will be sold to white men for $2, Asian men for $1.50, Latino men for $1, black men for 75 cents and Native American men for 25 cents. All women will get 25 cents off those prices.

The bake sale is meant to draw attention to pending legislation that would allow California universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity and national origin during the admissions process.
Student defends 'race' bake sale
Bake sale prices based on race

"We agree that the event is inherently racist, but that is the point," BCR President Shawn Lewis wrote in response to upheaval over the bake sale. "It is no more racist than giving an individual an advantage in college admissions based solely on their race (or) gender."

Similar events have been held at other colleges across the country, generally organized by college Republican groups. In some cases -- such as at Berkeley -- the plan sparked controversy and protests.

Other times, university officials stepped in.

At Bucknell University in Pennsylvania, officials shut down one of the bake sales on campus. Officials at The College of William and Mary in Virginia cut off a cookie sale, saying they were "shocked and appalled."

The University of California, Irvine, shut down a bake sale on campus, saying it was discriminatory. A bake sale at Southern Methodist University in Texas was shut down after 45 minutes because of what officials called an "unsafe environment," according to local reports.

Lewis said the bake sale at Berkeley was unanimously agreed upon by the club, whose leadership includes Asian and Hispanic students and whose membership represents a "wide variety of ethnic backgrounds."

"More than half of the voices were female," he added.

Berkeley's student government, the Associated Students of the University of California, held an emergency Senate meeting late Sunday to discuss the issue and passed a resolution that, in part, "condemns the use of discrimination whether it is in satire or in seriousness by any student group."

"I completely support the idea of BCR -- or any students on campus -- (having) political discussion," ASUC President Vishalli Loomba said. "I think student members of BCR have a full right to express their feelings, but I don't necessarily think this tactic is constructive. I strongly encourage them to engage in this dialogue in a more constructive manner, such as a forum or a town hall meeting.'

But the bake sale is intended to be a direct, "physical counterpoint" to an ASUC-sponsored phone bank -- also scheduled for Tuesday -- during which students will be encouraged to call Gov. Jerry Brown's office to support the legislation, Lewis said. The ASUC has endorsed the legislation, SB 185.

Lewis said supporters of the bake sale have received threats, including people who said they will "stop by the table only to knock it over" or "buy a cupcake just to throw it at (us)."

"Some of the threats online have gotten more specific, but we're hoping that's just emotion," he said.

While the initial feedback to the planned sale was largely in heated opposition, responses have "plateaued" and include the support of self-described Democrats, Lewis said.

Loomba, the student government president, said she is concerned about students potentially feeling ostracized due to the bake sale.

"I have heard that from numerous students who have said this makes students feel unwelcome on campus," she said. "For that reason alone, we should think about what events we have on campus."

Loomba described the situation as a "campus climate issue."

"UC Berkeley stands for a place where everyone -- regardless of race, ethnicity, gender, sexual orientation -- should feel inclusive," she said. "I think they should be able to express their opinion, but keep that value in mind."

As for where the bake sale proceeds will go, Lewis said the College Republicans are considering several charities.

But "because of all this controversy, we don't want to advertise the organization," he said. "We don't want to cause them problems."
So they want to stop the school from discriminating when it comes to their admissions process by promoting discrimination?
If you read the article they admit it was racist. THAT was the point, just as racist as giving an advantage in college admissions based on race. It is a protest. but everyone is so busy screaming racism, that they do not take time to recognize the point of the demonstration. Much like the "U Mad Bro?"  racist accusations...Even after it was explained to the accusers they refused to acknowledge that it was anything other than racism..surprise surprise.
Brasso
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SEREMAKER wrote:

So


what if you're mixed ............... if i look white but can prove a native american, can I get the discount
you get a discount based on your ethnicity fractions
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
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Brasso wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

So


what if you're mixed ............... if i look white but can prove a native american, can I get the discount
you get a discount based on your ethnicity fractions
hmmmmmmmmmm

so if I could prove that I have all races in me then I could get'em free ............. I can scratch the woman thing off, the only thing I can prove there is a inner lesbian
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I have no idea what Macbeth would be paying.

And Hurricane would be paying $50. He is the whitest guy on this forum.
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Brasso
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SEREMAKER wrote:

Brasso wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

So


what if you're mixed ............... if i look white but can prove a native american, can I get the discount
you get a discount based on your ethnicity fractions
hmmmmmmmmmm

so if I could prove that I have all races in me then I could get'em free ............. I can scratch the woman thing off, the only thing I can prove there is a inner lesbian
noooo not like that.  if you are half white half asian for example, you get the brownie for $1.75.  .5(2)+.5(1.5)=1.75
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Brasso wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

Brasso wrote:


you get a discount based on your ethnicity fractions
hmmmmmmmmmm

so if I could prove that I have all races in me then I could get'em free ............. I can scratch the woman thing off, the only thing I can prove there is a inner lesbian
noooo not like that.  if you are half white half asian for example, you get the brownie for $1.75.  .5(2)+.5(1.5)=1.75
don't forget black and latino

[x] black guy ............ hung like one, so I'm considered one

[x]latino .......... hard worker, and pumping babies out
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Brasso
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SEREMAKER wrote:

Brasso wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:


hmmmmmmmmmm

so if I could prove that I have all races in me then I could get'em free ............. I can scratch the woman thing off, the only thing I can prove there is a inner lesbian
noooo not like that.  if you are half white half asian for example, you get the brownie for $1.75.  .5(2)+.5(1.5)=1.75
don't forget black and latino

[x] black guy ............ hung like one, so I'm considered one

[x]latino .......... hard worker, and pumping babies out
tbh asians should get the native american woman discount since we figure out the numbers
"people in ny have a general idea of how to drive. one of the pedals goes forward the other one prevents you from dying"
SEREMAKER
BABYMAKIN EXPERT √
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Brasso wrote:

SEREMAKER wrote:

Brasso wrote:


noooo not like that.  if you are half white half asian for example, you get the brownie for $1.75.  .5(2)+.5(1.5)=1.75
don't forget black and latino

[x] black guy ............ hung like one, so I'm considered one

[x]latino .......... hard worker, and pumping babies out
tbh asians should get the native american woman discount since we figure out the numbers
wonder what Chaz Bono pays
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13urnzz
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SEREMAKER wrote:

wonder what Chaz Bono pays
out of state, white, lesbian,  . . . hell, i think they let him like the bowl.
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I think it is an interesting protest, sucks it had to be done in the context of a political party. Annoying hearing mindless sides whine at each other.

Also, grating to here how university students feel so all knowing about the universe since for the first time in their lives they are less on their parents tit.
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lick?
13urnzz
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CC-Marley wrote:

lick?
of course lick. my bad, like was a given . .  .
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Analogy doesn't really fit. Tuition rates are the same for everyone.

Now for the whole affirmative action thing- I like the idea of setting aside slots for people who are under privileged (whatever gauge you want to use race, ethnicity, etc. go for it). People who could manage the work and came from a less than privileged background than someone with the same or even slightly better grades from Scarsdale should get the slot. If ever there were a place in our society that gives the lower groups more opportunity and levels the playing field, our universities should be it.

Before anyone starts to write anything about how "the best people should get the slot" and all that jazz, I think it needs to be pointed out that our university system is already one giant federally funded social experiment. Our government backs all student loans which allow a middle class family to send her child away to get a four year degree with loans instead of working off and on for 10 or 15 years for a degree out of pocket. Remove affirmative action from the equation and you will still end up with one giant socialized banking system. It is far away from a libertarian dream and I think the college republicans need to realize that their presence their, for the most part, and their universities existence has little to do with their own hard work and ability but more will the Federal government investing in their "education". 

Now for my critique of university level affirmative action-

It's broken, as is. Most universities set aside slots for blacks, Hispanics, and other things in the hopes of giving more opportunity to these two less than affluent groups and raising up the community. While that is admirable (I guess /shrug) it doesn't really work. The reason for this is that while they will give a slot away to a black person who has slightly worse grades than a white person, income isn't really put into the equation. The income, of course, is the most important part. What ends up happening is- you will get your blacks, and Hispanics but they will be from middle class and upper middle class households instead of from the ghetto. That doesn't at all help the black and Hispanics communities since you are just helping the children of people who already escaped from those communities. AA as it is now, is at best a middle class guaranteer than a helper of minorities.

The only way to fix this problem would be to either eliminate AA altogether or completely reform our university system. The federal government has the power to do the latter. As I mentioned before it controls the loan money that goes into universities. If it attached budgetary regulations, higher academic standards, and several other regulations along with their student loan money, our universities could begin to move towards being equal opportunity meritocracies instead of middle class, upper middle class, and wealthy daycare. An AA system based off of income and grades then could be pretty damn successful.

I doubt anyone will even bother to read this.
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bet its run by a bunch of angry white kids
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unnamednewbie13
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So native american women get to eat free. lol
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wasnt there a supreme court case where UC davis lost because of racial quota? white kid didnt get in over a black kid coz he black.
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i should get benefits, im technically a pacific islander tee hee.
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Kmar
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

So they want to stop the school from discriminating when it comes to their admissions process by promoting discrimination?
Satire me thinks.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
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Stimey wrote:

bet its run by a bunch of angry white kids
bet they have a point



because they do
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13/f/taiwan wrote:

So they want to stop the school from discriminating when it comes to their admissions process by promoting discrimination?
You seem to have missed the point.

This kind of protest is entirely valid and legitimate.
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Kmar
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I think he was implying hypocrisy.. when in fact "The bake sale is meant to draw attention to pending legislation that would allow California universities to consider race, gender, ethnicity and national origin during the admissions process."
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