But whattabout tha Core! whaddit tha Core use?!FatherTed wrote:
well the sas used mp5s and so yeh this is an opinion on the internet
dangerous? yes. reliable on anything larger than a squirrel? no.Macbeth wrote:
.22's are much more dangerous than people like to think, imo.
and I'd never use a .22lr, .22mag or .22 Hornet or anything less than those on a goat kangaroo unless it was a point-blank mercy shot in the ear.
If I were getting into shooting in Australia I'd get a bolt action rifle in .22lr or .17hmr, depending on your ammo budget and availability. Maybe a Ruger 77/17 or 77/22 or a Savage with an accu-trigger(if they're available in aus). And I'd look for something used. it's damn near impossible to actually shoot out a rimfire barrel. the only thing you have to look out for is crappy amateur gunsmithing.
learn how to shoot?lowing wrote:
No sir, for shooting rabbits, varmints etc... a damn bolt action or lever action would suck
well as I said, if that is your position, use a bow and arrow or a sling shot and.........."learn how to shoot".Reciprocity wrote:
dangerous? yes. reliable on anything larger than a squirrel? no.Macbeth wrote:
.22's are much more dangerous than people like to think, imo.
and I'd never use a .22lr, .22mag or .22 Hornet or anything less than those on a goat kangaroo unless it was a point-blank mercy shot in the ear.
If I were getting into shooting in Australia I'd get a bolt action rifle in .22lr or .17hmr, depending on your ammo budget and availability. Maybe a Ruger 77/17 or 77/22 or a Savage with an accu-trigger(if they're available in aus). And I'd look for something used. it's damn near impossible to actually shoot out a rimfire barrel. the only thing you have to look out for is crappy amateur gunsmithing.
learn how to shoot?lowing wrote:
No sir, for shooting rabbits, varmints etc... a damn bolt action or lever action would suck
I wouldn't trust a slingshot to put down any animal humanely and I know plenty of people who could kill varmint sized critters with a bow, the only problems being that good arrows are very delicate and very expensive and they don't have the range necessary for most skittish little critters.lowing wrote:
well as I said, if that is your position, use a bow and arrow or a sling shot and.........."learn how to shoot".
If you're having to dump pounds of lead down range with a semiauto to kill ground squirrels or jackrabbits you're doing it wrong.
so yes, learn how to shoot.
I've hunted my whole life with bows, I just figured I needed a change, and wanted to get into rifles. Just that centrefire is a different category licence (although I'm not sure if it's harder or not to get) I'd like something big enough for goats, but not so big that it will cost me 200 bucks for a box of 10 rounds.
A 10 round mag of .22's weighs POUNDS now?Reciprocity wrote:
I wouldn't trust a slingshot to put down any animal humanely and I know plenty of people who could kill varmint sized critters with a bow, the only problems being that good arrows are very delicate and very expensive and they don't have the range necessary for most skittish little critters.lowing wrote:
well as I said, if that is your position, use a bow and arrow or a sling shot and.........."learn how to shoot".
If you're having to dump pounds of lead down range with a semiauto to kill ground squirrels or jackrabbits you're doing it wrong.
so yes, learn how to shoot.
My comment goes toward moving critters and having to take your rifle down to reload/or chamber after every shot. It doesn't go toward the ability to shooting the damn thing.
It doesn't matter anyway, big brother said he is not allowed to own one any way.
Gathering up various posts...Reciprocity wrote:
dangerous? yes. reliable on anything larger than a squirrel? no.Macbeth wrote:
.22's are much more dangerous than people like to think, imo.
and I'd never use a .22lr, .22mag or .22 Hornet or anything less than those on a goat kangaroo unless it was a point-blank mercy shot in the ear.
If I were getting into shooting in Australia I'd get a bolt action rifle in .22lr or .17hmr, depending on your ammo budget and availability. Maybe a Ruger 77/17 or 77/22 or a Savage with an accu-trigger(if they're available in aus). And I'd look for something used. it's damn near impossible to actually shoot out a rimfire barrel. the only thing you have to look out for is crappy amateur gunsmithing.
learn how to shoot?lowing wrote:
No sir, for shooting rabbits, varmints etc... a damn bolt action or lever action would suck
.22 Semi-Auto rifles are restricted in Oz. Its not a simple matter to get a licence for one.
Its perfectly possible to wear out a .22 chamber, even a barrel - usually due more to dirt than anything.
The majority of shooting injuries happen with .22s. "But its such a tiddly cartridge" it'll still go straight through your head or chest no trouble.
Learning to shoot - get a .22 and shoot rabbits.
Goats, pigs, roos - I think nothing smaller than a 22/250 or 222 and then not at long range. Pretty sure you have to be a professional to get a licence for roos these days.
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I've seen breech face peening, external crown damage, bent barrels, sights welded on crooked, barrels so fouled they look like smoothbores, but I don't think I've ever come across a .22 rimfire barrel that's been truely shot out. I'm sure match rimfires have some arbitrary round count or could mic out of some spec after so many tens of thousands of rounds. but for most .22s, ammunition quality will always have a greater effect on internal ballistics than degradation of the barrel, throat and chamber.
When I hunt pigs I generally won't use anything smaller than a .243, and I prefer a mid to high middle .30 (like a 7.62x39 to .308) caliber. I've hunted them a couple of times with .223s and they'll get the job done, but not always on the first shot. This is speaking from experience in the Southern US though, where some of the hogs can get huge though. Don't know about how tough they can be in other parts of the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Goats, pigs, roos - I think nothing smaller than a 22/250 or 222 and then not at long range. Pretty sure you have to be a professional to get a licence for roos these days.
Pigs get pretty big here. And tough.mcgid1 wrote:
When I hunt pigs I generally won't use anything smaller than a .243, and I prefer a mid to high middle .30 (like a 7.62x39 to .308) caliber. I've hunted them a couple of times with .223s and they'll get the job done, but not always on the first shot. This is speaking from experience in the Southern US though, where some of the hogs can get huge though. Don't know about how tough they can be in other parts of the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Goats, pigs, roos - I think nothing smaller than a 22/250 or 222 and then not at long range. Pretty sure you have to be a professional to get a licence for roos these days.
Shotgun. Slugs. Only solution.Adams_BJ wrote:
Pigs get pretty big here. And tough.mcgid1 wrote:
When I hunt pigs I generally won't use anything smaller than a .243, and I prefer a mid to high middle .30 (like a 7.62x39 to .308) caliber. I've hunted them a couple of times with .223s and they'll get the job done, but not always on the first shot. This is speaking from experience in the Southern US though, where some of the hogs can get huge though. Don't know about how tough they can be in other parts of the world.Dilbert_X wrote:
Goats, pigs, roos - I think nothing smaller than a 22/250 or 222 and then not at long range. Pretty sure you have to be a professional to get a licence for roos these days.
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marlin guide gun in 45-70. good for bears, elk, convicts, sasquatch, buicks and wild piggies.
What about natives?
assuming you aren't a bish azz puzzy then you should have no problem spear hunting sum of dem wild boar m8.
http://www.spear-hunting.com/
http://www.spear-hunting.com/
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I'd rather kill them, not maim them. Besides here in AU we use big knives if we want that sorta thing. I think some in the US do too, usually in correlation with hunting dogs.
all the casinos have bullet proof glass and guards.Adams_BJ wrote:
What about natives?
OUrs don't have casinos. Ours have pools.Reciprocity wrote:
all the casinos have bullet proof glass and guards.Adams_BJ wrote:
What about natives?
they also own huge oil reservesAdams_BJ wrote:
OUrs don't have casinos. Ours have pools.Reciprocity wrote:
all the casinos have bullet proof glass and guards.Adams_BJ wrote:
What about natives?
LoL
ok, stay on topic.
for varmint hunting isn't a high-powered air rifle enough?
that's what some guy I know uses, he also owns a 91/30 mosin
that's what some guy I know uses, he also owns a 91/30 mosin
Depends on the varmint and the distance.
Feral hogs--no way.
Feral hogs--no way.
squirrels and bunnies, and the occasional large bird.RAIMIUS wrote:
Depends on the varmint and the distance.
Feral hogs--no way.
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lol for squirrels and rabbits a decent high powered pellet gun will do the trick.Trotskygrad wrote:
squirrels and bunnies, and the occasional large bird.RAIMIUS wrote:
Depends on the varmint and the distance.
Feral hogs--no way.
i've shot big jack rabbits, 1st shot they roll around, 2nd they're usually gone within a minute.
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any of you guys load .303 british? been trying to get an idea on where to start looking for a decent (but not wtfexpensive) powder to use