BF2S Forums Geithner to discuss leveraging EU bailout fund

oug wrote:

lowing wrote:

Was in Greece recently

vacation?

business, that kinda sorta had a perk of an extended stay for a few days.

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

and? What was the point you were making? Were you even alive in 1984?

I thought for a minute you might have actually been quoting something with some academic value so I checked where the quote came from.


I personally don't take my political/social lessons from a book written decades ago by a baptist fundamentalist.

Why is that? Because somehow, a nation CAN multiply wealth by dividing it? Forget what he is, is what he said true or not?

Or is this just another example of you not caring about the information being true or not, you would rather focus on the source.

It's a snappy little quote that doesn't really mean anything and can be applied to any government or civilisation in human history. Yet somehow people on the internet seem to think it is concrete proof of the failure of socialism, or some other rubbish like that.

Kmar wrote:

Jay wrote:

Let's be real here, most of the construction workers I've known do it because they can't do anything else. It's the only industry where people with a high school diploma (or not) can still make a pretty damn good wage. They aren't going to start going to college now, and most of them have too much pride to accept the menial work they are qualified for outside of their industry. That unemployment market is not going to clear itself.

That's not entirely true. There are people driving big brown trucks now that take home 70k at minimum (with absolutely no OT). There are also a lot of other companies that allow you to put your time in and move up to good wages. However, going in to management (less back breaking) usually requires higher education.

A truck driver working in a mine in the Pilbara (remote Western Aus for you) can earn upwards of $200k per year with extensive benefits.

Kmar wrote:

I'm sure the premium wage has something to do with the hazards of working in a mine.

Not enough workers at the mines and they need to attract people to the jobs.

I know miners can clear more than 200k in a year here in Aussie. You seen Kalgoorlie Kmar you know what I'm talking about

Kmar wrote:

I'm sure the premium wage has something to do with the hazards of working in a mine. But we have thousands and thousands of UPS employees who can potentially clear six figures (and great benefits) without having a single day of extended education. .. and to think I voluntarily left that job.

Nah, it's to do with what Cybargs said. The demand in the mining industry down here atm is absuuuuuuuuuurd.

Last edited by Spark (2011-09-18 20:22:46)

Australia's infrastructure needs to catch up with the needs of it's population.

Sounds a lot like Canada.. along with weak mobile service/competition.

For every big urban area there is usually an rural/industrial area two or three times it's size supporting it. Sort of like NYC and NJ. It does make you wonder how Australia manages to run itself when its people are so clustered in a few cities. I guess that goes back to Kmar's comment about Aus needing to developed its infrastructure.

Last edited by Macbeth (2011-09-18 20:50:35)

Kmar wrote:

The good news for Aussies is that there is lots of room for growth, and perhaps they will enjoy a major immigration boom like the US has over the last century. They have to be willing to accept the foreign workforce though.

Yeah likely not gonna happen. They tightened immigration policy over the past few years. The only incentives they're giving to migrants is gaining PR from living in rural areas.

http://www.immi.gov.au/media/fact-sheets/26state.htm

http://www.citizenship.gov.au/applying/ … ly/spouse/

This one is a good one preventing fraudulent marriages.

Spouses and partners of Australian citizens do not have an automatic right to Australian citizenship. You will need to apply for citizenship and satisfy the eligibility criteria in the same way as other adult applicants.

Kmar wrote:

I was just going to sneak in wearing a giant koala bear outfit.

I wonder how work visa's work over there. I assume employers could sponsor employees for temporary residency?

Yeah we got work related visas and working holiday visas.

Working holidays means you can come to aus for a year but you cant hold a job longer than 3 months due to visa restriction (they want you to travel). A lot of working holiday visa workers go to farms and pick fruits, theyre mostly asian too lol.

but yeah your employer sponsers you with a work visa, same as the US. But Americans get a larger slot since we got a bilateral free trade agreement.

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

lowing wrote:

Little BaBy JESUS wrote:

I thought for a minute you might have actually been quoting something with some academic value so I checked where the quote came from.


I personally don't take my political/social lessons from a book written decades ago by a baptist fundamentalist.

Why is that? Because somehow, a nation CAN multiply wealth by dividing it? Forget what he is, is what he said true or not?

Or is this just another example of you not caring about the information being true or not, you would rather focus on the source.

It's a snappy little quote that doesn't really mean anything and can be applied to any government or civilisation in human history. Yet somehow people on the internet seem to think it is concrete proof of the failure of socialism, or some other rubbish like that.

lol, no, they are snappy little quotes that succinctly explains why socialism is a failure. GREECE, for example, is PROOF socialism is a failure.

If there is one thing that he says in what was quoted that you can dispute. I would love to hear it.

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

A witty saying proves nothing.

Are you confusing witty with clever?. Again, what is it that was quoted that you can dispute?

I'm not confused. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

lowing wrote:

Are you confusing witty with clever?. Again, what is it that was quoted that you can dispute?

I'm not confused. http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Voltaire

Yet, you fail to explain what was quoted that you can dispute.

I was simply saying that people toss quotes out and simply stand by them without adding any personal commentary. I was replying to LBJ, not you. I don't even know what the hell you quoted. Nor do I care. These little exchanges with you bore me, frankly.