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Commanders for one are important.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Commander isn't that important. I'm glad I won't hear "ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED" every 0.1 seconds from a spamming commander. Too many commanders didn't do their job anyways, so I'm not concerned with it's removal.
I do hope they add more mechanical sounding gun sounds.
I thought during the Alpaha trial it looked like an updated BFBC2, then i watched Caspian Border vid and changed my mind.SonderKommando wrote:
I think its a little ridiculous to make these bfbc comments when all we played was the alpha version of a rush map with one vehicle.
Commanders were important for making BF2 fucking frustrating as hell.RDMC wrote:
Commanders for one are important.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Commander isn't that important. I'm glad I won't hear "ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED" every 0.1 seconds from a spamming commander. Too many commanders didn't do their job anyways, so I'm not concerned with it's removal.
I do hope they add more mechanical sounding gun sounds.
Second that wasn't the point.
Thenurdoinitrongm8Doctor Strangelove wrote:
Commanders were important for making BF2 fucking frustrating as hell.RDMC wrote:
Commanders for one are important.-Sh1fty- wrote:
Commander isn't that important. I'm glad I won't hear "ENEMY INFANTRY SPOTTED" every 0.1 seconds from a spamming commander. Too many commanders didn't do their job anyways, so I'm not concerned with it's removal.
I do hope they add more mechanical sounding gun sounds.
Second that wasn't the point.
This was by far the biggest problem. It doesn't matter if your the best commander alive. No one in a pub EVER listens to you, but they sure didn't have a problem requesting artillery drops.Superior Mind wrote:
The only problem was that squad leaders didn't always follow your orders.
That's the thing. I've played as commander a lot in BF2 and BF2142, but squad leaders rarely listen to orders. Commanders are useful and extremely so in a match but in a public server they're just annoying.Superior Mind wrote:
Being commander was fun, like playing a strategy game. The only problem was that squad leaders didn't always follow your orders.
Hence why soldiers wear hearing protection these days.AussieReaper wrote:
If you had fired these guns, you would know that you get a ringing in your ears. Constant fire will cause you hearing damage. Hence the reason you wear ear muffs at the gun range.-Sh1fty- wrote:
And why the heck wouldn't you want loud cool mechanical sounding guns?
Do you really want to deafen gamers who are wearing headsets with the volume turned up in the hope of hearing enemy footsteps, for the sake of realism?
Stop trolling, trolly mc troll person.
TBH I'd rather have a bit of spam and know where the enemies are then run around blind in silence.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That's the thing. I've played as commander a lot in BF2 and BF2142, but squad leaders rarely listen to orders. Commanders are useful and extremely so in a match but in a public server they're just annoying.Superior Mind wrote:
Being commander was fun, like playing a strategy game. The only problem was that squad leaders didn't always follow your orders.
lol-Sh1fty- wrote:
Well, when I did play commander in BF2/BF2142 I did a darn fine job if I may brag a little. Although, as it was somewhat boring I'd do it when I had like pistachio nuts and something to drink next to me, or some chips and salsa, etc. I'd never just sit there and stare at the screen while sitting in a corner of the map. Was too boring without the food/drinks
They already said definitively that there be no commander. They said they will be pushing the commander functions down to the lower levels, which could conceivably be the squad leaders, but they haven't elaborated beyond that point. When the alpha started, players could only spawn on their squad leader, but they recinded that before GamesCom, saying that the attackers lack of progress on Operation Metro was due to the spawn mechanic limitations. The only other function announced for Squad leaders is some kind of waypoint/destination setting function.Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
TBH I'd rather have a bit of spam and know where the enemies are then run around blind in silence.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That's the thing. I've played as commander a lot in BF2 and BF2142, but squad leaders rarely listen to orders. Commanders are useful and extremely so in a match but in a public server they're just annoying.Superior Mind wrote:
Being commander was fun, like playing a strategy game. The only problem was that squad leaders didn't always follow your orders.
I'm wondering what they'll do with commander in BF3. It seems odd that they'd leave the position out entirely and just leave 8 squads running around like headless chooks. Then again, BF2 commander was nowhere near flawless; If one side had a commander and one didn't - or worse, had a commander that did nothing - then it made the battle very one sided. It could also be a pain when you want to run around and shoot shit, but you end up being the one having to sit back and command. It seems kind of odd, now that I think about it: jumping into a FPS and just end up sitting off in a corner somewhere directing people around.
I think I might need to tweet Demize about and see if he'll respond.
Half the time the "attackers lack of progress on Operation Metro" was due to the fact that the spawn was bugged and in the majority of rounds I played you couldn't spawn on anyone...GullyFoyle wrote:
They already said definitively that there be no commander. They said they will be pushing the commander functions down to the lower levels, which could conceivably be the squad leaders, but they haven't elaborated beyond that point. When the alpha started, players could only spawn on their squad leader, but they recinded that before GamesCom, saying that the attackers lack of progress on Operation Metro was due to the spawn mechanic limitations. The only other function announced for Squad leaders is some kind of waypoint/destination setting function.Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
TBH I'd rather have a bit of spam and know where the enemies are then run around blind in silence.-Sh1fty- wrote:
That's the thing. I've played as commander a lot in BF2 and BF2142, but squad leaders rarely listen to orders. Commanders are useful and extremely so in a match but in a public server they're just annoying.
I'm wondering what they'll do with commander in BF3. It seems odd that they'd leave the position out entirely and just leave 8 squads running around like headless chooks. Then again, BF2 commander was nowhere near flawless; If one side had a commander and one didn't - or worse, had a commander that did nothing - then it made the battle very one sided. It could also be a pain when you want to run around and shoot shit, but you end up being the one having to sit back and command. It seems kind of odd, now that I think about it: jumping into a FPS and just end up sitting off in a corner somewhere directing people around.
I think I might need to tweet Demize about and see if he'll respond.
They listed a ton of gadgets on the data sheets at GamesCom, but haven't mentioned if any of them will be squad leader specific. It would be cool if some of them were, like the MAV.
The main problem was that people would all rush from the front and camp in one place and start spamming Q and get frag kills, completely forgetting about the OBJ. The last 2 mcoms in the map are very easy to arm. yet people would just run inside the two buildings and just camp there. The spawn has very little to do with the "attackers lack of progress".coke wrote:
Half the time the "attackers lack of progress on Operation Metro" was due to the fact that the spawn was bugged and in the majority of rounds I played you couldn't spawn on anyone...GullyFoyle wrote:
They already said definitively that there be no commander. They said they will be pushing the commander functions down to the lower levels, which could conceivably be the squad leaders, but they haven't elaborated beyond that point. When the alpha started, players could only spawn on their squad leader, but they recinded that before GamesCom, saying that the attackers lack of progress on Operation Metro was due to the spawn mechanic limitations. The only other function announced for Squad leaders is some kind of waypoint/destination setting function.Sup3r_Dr4gon wrote:
TBH I'd rather have a bit of spam and know where the enemies are then run around blind in silence.
I'm wondering what they'll do with commander in BF3. It seems odd that they'd leave the position out entirely and just leave 8 squads running around like headless chooks. Then again, BF2 commander was nowhere near flawless; If one side had a commander and one didn't - or worse, had a commander that did nothing - then it made the battle very one sided. It could also be a pain when you want to run around and shoot shit, but you end up being the one having to sit back and command. It seems kind of odd, now that I think about it: jumping into a FPS and just end up sitting off in a corner somewhere directing people around.
I think I might need to tweet Demize about and see if he'll respond.
They listed a ton of gadgets on the data sheets at GamesCom, but haven't mentioned if any of them will be squad leader specific. It would be cool if some of them were, like the MAV.
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