BF2S Forums "Nobody is doing nothing for us"

lowing wrote:

Oh is this where you spout off about what is fair and what isn't fair?

So what if mommy and daddy pays for their kids education. Are you actually trying to argue that those same parents should pay for a total strangers education as well?

Ya see, when you work and build wealth you can afford to pay for your kids education. Pretty much one of the reason people work, to provide for THEIR family, not yours.

Or (novel thought) actually think & plan ahead, so you only have kids that you can reasonably provide for.
Time spent with children, money to take care of them properly (food, clothing, bedrooms in house), income set aside for college funds, etc etc.

Kids are expensive.  If you can't afford more, don't have more. 
It is insanely selfish to demand your neighbors pay for your crotchfruit.

To be a smartass about it;
If I don't get to fuck your wife, why the hell do I have to pay for your kids?

A reasonable level of taxation for schools would be based on the national average for number of children in a household.
If the national average is, for example, 2.2 kids per household - then the government should provide tax funding for schooling up to 2 (perhaps 3) kids per household. 
Any further children, and the parents would be expected to provide the funding for their education (pre-school through college).

The current tax code (US) gives a tax break for each dependent in the household.
This is an obsolete legacy from the (ancient history) days when children were a source of labor (and thus income) for families. 
Farms, family stores, family restaurants, etc.
Today, a child in the US is NOT a source of income - they are an expense that must be met for at least 18-22 years (or more). 
Your failure to plan for the care and maintenance of your children shouldn't become the problem of those with better life planning skills.

Doctor Strangelove wrote:

Yes, it is a good idea to create a large mass of people with absolutely no education whatsoever. That will not have any consequences.

Hmmm don't recall anyone saying that. The schools are already provided. Now you need parents responsible enough to raise their children and put them in it.

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

You are the only person who mentioned it.

I'm not a socialist I'm afraid..

Hate to break it to ya pal, but if you want your govt. to hand hold you through life, and understand why anyone would riot because their nanny state isn't being nanny enough. IE " NOBODY IS DOING NOTHING FOR US" . Then you are a socialist.

So because I corrected your announcement that uni is Free in the UK when its not I now want the government to hold my hand?

....what?

you didn't correct me, you corrected your fellow socialists that made those claims. remember the quotes?

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

So because I corrected your announcement that uni is Free in the UK when its not I now want the government to hold my hand?

....what?

you didn't correct me, you corrected your fellow socialists that made those claims. remember the quotes?

No. No I dont. The quotes did not mention fee education in the same way that I did not mention wanting my hand held its just shit you are making up so you can argue with yourself.

buddy ,if you think your govt. has obligations to cover your ill decisions. ya you wanna be hand held through life. Get over it.

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

lowing wrote:

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

No. No I dont. The quotes did not mention fee education in the same way that I did not mention wanting my hand held its just shit you are making up so you can argue with yourself.

buddy ,if you think your govt. has obligations to cover your ill decisions. ya you wanna be hand held through life. Get over it.

Where did you get that from?

Where did I even say anything half related to that?

Are you reading the same thread?

Ahh, so you don't want govt. taking care of you when you fuck up? You want to be left alone with the decisions you have made in life. Ok I will remember that.

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

lowing wrote:

AussieReaper wrote:

As mentioned earlier in this thread, this people come from a lower socio-economic background.

There is no movement up for them at the moment, because the economy is so poor.

The British Governments solution is to further cut welfare, which these people need. Cutting welfare is not going to suddenly create a welath of jobs for these people to slide into. The problem is that they can't get up from the bottom and see no way out. Taking their frustrations out by rioting, while there are some who are violent for the sake of it thrown into the mix also.

To lable every single one of them lazy, because they find it difficult to find employement, is ignoring the issue of why there are a lack of jobs.

how the fuck can you be down and out at 17 years old?. WHat kinda fuckin jobs do they expect at that age?  their asses should be in school..You do boast of free fuckin university right?

Really kind of pisses me off to listen to you actually rationalize and justify burning down OTHER peoples lives because you are 17 and no one is handing you enough free shit in your eyes

Lowing I have highlighted everywhere that anybody mentioned university in your quote stream you are whining about.

Carefully read it and see if you can tell me who the 1st person to mention free university was?

Then maybe you can stop the BS and admit you just made it up.

and while im here "their asses should be in school" thats a funny way to talk about the early twenties isnt it?

I didn't say I was quoting from this thread cheeky. In various discussions in this forum, govt. sponsored university has been mentioned as a way the govt. invests in its citizens and in return the citizen pays the govt. back with taxes. Not something I made up.

Cheeky_Ninja06 wrote:

Ah so now you want me to look through every DS&T thread to find the holy grail quote that you were merely referencing in this thread?

Yes it is a way to invest in citizens however in the UK it is £9,000 per year.

Maybe you should check your "facts" that you heard somebody else say somewhere, before you spout them as such.

Never said you should look through every DST thread, in fact I don't give a fuck what you do.

I know what was posted in this forum in other threads and I will mention them accordingly.