Well gee Jay, I am thinkin' one day I will no longer be able to work. How bout you?Jay wrote:
That's just the fund for those on disability. Are you disabled?
Jay, people retire because their knees give out, their ankles give out, they can no longer type, or turn a wrench. these are the people applying for SS and yes, one day it will be you and me.Jay wrote:
It's two different funds lowing.
Great then my OP stands.Jay wrote:
Nope. System is fubar.
2037 for the rest of SS.article wrote:
About two decades later, Social Security's much larger retirement fund is projected to run dry as well.
Chances are, they are collecting far less than they paid into the system. I don't blame them. Best solution is, you keep your money and do with it as you will, and I will keep mine. THat way, you don't have anything to bitch about regarding what I do with my money, it would be none of your business. Unless of course you are a liberal and think YOUR money is everyone else's business.rdx-fx wrote:
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Yep.
All these fucking Baby Boomers. Have their boats, ATVs, massive 5th wheel vacation trailers, and every other toy they can make the monthly payment on.
Yet they're putting the bare minimum into their retirement fund, pay jack shit towards their kid's college (forcing the kid into massive debt to pay for it), and generally behave like short-sighted nimrods with poor life planning skills and poorer impulse control.
Meanwhile,
I'm saving for my retirement (because I know SS isn't going to be there at all),
planning for the day when I have to support at least one of my parents, who just loves her big house, expensive vehicles, 'Boomer Toys (see above), horses, dogs, and fine living ... but hasn't a dime in any sort of retirement fund.
(the other can have my half-sisters take care of him, as that is the family he chose)
already saving for my daughter's college fund (she's 4),
already looking into private schooling for my daughter, as public schooling here is for shit
(No Child Left Behind = every child held back at the level of the dumbest paste-eating window-licker in the county = no funding for Gifted & Talented courses, it's all being spent on remedial paste-eating classes),
Thank fuck I've been fortunate enough to have decent paying jobs.
No fancy cars, just two reliable Subaru sedans, and a modest (rented) house.
Have actual responsibilities to pay for - can't afford to fuck around with huge expensive toys and "living high on the hog", like my parent's generation.
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nope you are right. Just think how much MORE you could put away for yourself if the govt. didn't steal it for someone else.Monkey Spanker wrote:
if you are earning surely you should have your own pension scheme you pay into monthly. That would be the proper way to plan for an retirement you have known would be tricky financially. Or is that me being retarded.
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Oh I dunno, incentives that nurture growth of businesses IN THE US maybe? Fair trade agreements where companies in the US can compete with imports. Things that put people to work EARNING and thus paying their taxes instead of the constant cycle of well we cant get it from that guy so lets take more from these guys. All that does is kill incentive to produce and grow.Monkey Spanker wrote:
What changes do you propose to the system that are financially viable. Considering the amount of unemployment there is worldwide. What do you propose that world wide government can do to stop the wasted money on social security that keeps many people from starving & a roof over there head?
Use a FairTax for revenue and then encourage personal pensions like 401Ks and whatnotMonkey Spanker wrote:
What changes do you propose to the system that are financially viable. Considering the amount of unemployment there is worldwide. What do you propose that world wide government can do to stop the wasted money on social security that keeps many people from starving & a roof over there head?
Why do you even want social security? I'd think it'd be insulting to be running out to your mailbox all the time for whatever pittance of your own money the government decided to send you.lowing wrote:
Well gee Jay, I am thinkin' one day I will no longer be able to work. How bout you?Jay wrote:
That's just the fund for those on disability. Are you disabled?
I want it for one reason..I want my fuckin money back!!unnamednewbie13 wrote:
Why do you even want social security? I'd think it'd be insulting to be running out to your mailbox all the time for whatever pittance of your own money the government decided to send you.lowing wrote:
Well gee Jay, I am thinkin' one day I will no longer be able to work. How bout you?Jay wrote:
That's just the fund for those on disability. Are you disabled?
Be financially independent instead. Save for stuff like old age and disability.
I know that, that is why it pisses me off. Should be easy to understandunnamednewbie13 wrote:
You're not going to get it back. Let it go as a bad investment (even if you were forced into it).
Ummm nothing can be don e about the blue sky, wasting tax payer money on failed programs is something that can be dealt with.unnamednewbie13 wrote:
You might as well get mad that the sky's blue. Wasted energy, I suppose.