Rioting

2011-08-08 20:01:16

#176

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

you're just saying that because you're worried your pretty bmw will get scratched. says it all.

it's the same undercurrent of ugly shit that brought out mass riots in greece earlier this year... major macro-scale fuckups hitting and affecting the poorest man in the hardest way. it's always the communities like tottenham that get the shit end of the stick continuously throughout history. right now because of wider economic conditions we have a lot of frustrated young guys with fuck all to do, no hope, and no pride in their lives/community/country. it's ugly and shit like this is just going to flare up, eventually. poor people are tired of getting fucked so the rich people can play with their lives. context.

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2011-08-08 20:02:00

#177

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.

I think the lasting image for me will always be the truck driver that they pulled out of his rig and smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher. Really? That truck driver oppressed you with his billy club? Come on.

Oh, and the Korean shop owner on the roof of his business shooting his rifle down into the crowd that was threatening him.

Last edited by Jay (2011-08-08 20:02:33)

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:02:27

#178

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,979|6889|949

reginald denny. and i think it was a brick

2011-08-08 20:02:37

#179

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.

what do you want them to do, write eloquent letters to their local MP? yeah it's stupid but it's all they've got. no organisation, no real manifesto or aim, just a malaise and a 'rage against the machine' type sentiment. destroying a shop is destroying a symbol of commerce, capitalism, i guess.

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2011-08-08 20:03:14

#180

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5959|College Park, MD

Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
I think the lasting image for me will always be the truck driver that they pulled out of his rig and smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher. Really? That truck driver oppressed you with his billy club? Come on.

Oh, and the Korean shop owner on the roof of his business shooting his rifle down into the crowd that was threatening him.

Korean badass

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2011-08-08 20:03:46

#181

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5959|College Park, MD

Uzique wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
what do you want them to do, write eloquent letters to their local MP? yeah it's stupid but it's all they've got. no organisation, no real manifesto or aim, just a malaise and a 'rage against the machine' type sentiment. destroying a shop is destroying a symbol of commerce, capitalism, i guess.

why not destroy parliament?

2011-08-08 20:04:00

#182

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
reginald denny. and i think it was a brick

That's the guy, yeah. At least the Rodney King riots were genuine rage. The looting seemed secondary. This seems the complete opposite.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:04:30

#183

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

do you understand the geography of london at all? a lot of effort to take a mob of 150 people on foot from tottenham to parliament.

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2011-08-08 20:04:56

#184

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6973

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
I think the lasting image for me will always be the truck driver that they pulled out of his rig and smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher. Really? That truck driver oppressed you with his billy club? Come on.

Oh, and the Korean shop owner on the roof of his business shooting his rifle down into the crowd that was threatening him.
Korean badass

fuck you black guy get out of my store. what you doing back there, STOP STEALING.

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2011-08-08 20:05:00

#185

KEN-JENNINGS: I am all that is MOD!; +2,979|6889|949

Uzique wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
what do you want them to do, write eloquent letters to their local MP? yeah it's stupid but it's all they've got. no organisation, no real manifesto or aim, just a malaise and a 'rage against the machine' type sentiment. destroying a shop is destroying a symbol of commerce, capitalism, i guess.

it's just hard to express a feeling of solidarity or at the very least compassion when they're destroying other people's lives and livelihoods. I believe violence is only warranted as a last resort, not as the start of the bargaining process.

2011-08-08 20:05:27

#186

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5959|College Park, MD

yeah, that means absolutely nothing to me (i don't know London's geography). i just figure if they're supposedly 'organizing' through facebook and BBM (lol) they might as well destroy a real symbol of their 'oppression' or whatever instead of Reginald Featherbottom's tea shoppe

Last edited by Hurricane2k9 (2011-08-08 20:05:42)

2011-08-08 20:05:52

#187

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

hey cybargs how does coke use worsen this situation again? or are you being selectively blind like you were when you missed that left turn and ran into a lamp-post and sent your dear friend's contorted and lacerated corpse through your car windshield onto the cold, dead tarmac.

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2011-08-08 20:06:18

#188

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|6999|London

i still don't understand why we haven't seen any riot gear being used

2011-08-08 20:07:38

#189

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5959|College Park, MD

Dauntless wrote:
i still don't understand why we haven't seen any riot gear being used

the chief of police is stil reading the wikipedia article on sound cannons

2011-08-08 20:07:44

#190

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
yeah, that means absolutely nothing to me (i don't know London's geography). i just figure if they're supposedly 'organizing' through facebook and BBM (lol) they might as well destroy a real symbol of their 'oppression' or whatever instead of Reginald Featherbottom's tea shoppe

it's a long way to parliament or westminster or the city from these areas. you can't use public transport because police will have you on lockdown. bbm and shit is being intercepted and police intelligence is pretty good. you can organize a group to go fuck up your local neighbourhood or a quiet suburb, but you definitely can't mobilize and go ransack parliament. our technology and infrastructure is way too advanced for that. remember that london is one of the most heavy cctv spots in the world. that's mostly all in the proper city itself.

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2011-08-08 20:07:58

#191

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

The one thing that really stood out to me is that 300 something number in reference to the number of people that have died in police custody. Does this mean they died in prison or that they died in the back room of the cop shop? If it's in prison, big fucking deal, if it's the latter, then, well, your cops make ours look like saints.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:08:17

#192

DesertFox-: The very model of a modern major general; +796|6942|United States of America

Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
I think the lasting image for me will always be the truck driver that they pulled out of his rig and smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher. Really? That truck driver oppressed you with his billy club? Come on.

Oh, and the Korean shop owner on the roof of his business shooting his rifle down into the crowd that was threatening him.

I was rather shocked how abandoned all the shops and such were. Perhaps it's because a storeowner would be largely helpless if people want to steal stuff or even assault someone else if they're in that mindset. In America, something like this would easily turn into a bloodbath.

2011-08-08 20:08:21

#193

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|6999|London

Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Uzique wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
what do you want them to do, write eloquent letters to their local MP? yeah it's stupid but it's all they've got. no organisation, no real manifesto or aim, just a malaise and a 'rage against the machine' type sentiment. destroying a shop is destroying a symbol of commerce, capitalism, i guess.
why not destroy parliament?

i think even now parliament would be very hard to attack, they have big barriers all around stopping any kind of car driving in and the police around there and buckinham palace are armed

2011-08-08 20:09:18

#194

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

Dauntless wrote:
Hurricane2k9 wrote:
Uzique wrote:

what do you want them to do, write eloquent letters to their local MP? yeah it's stupid but it's all they've got. no organisation, no real manifesto or aim, just a malaise and a 'rage against the machine' type sentiment. destroying a shop is destroying a symbol of commerce, capitalism, i guess.
why not destroy parliament?
i think even now parliament would be very hard to attack, they have big barriers all around stopping any kind of car driving in and the police around there and buckinham palace are armed

That's why you load a subway with C4 and blow it up from beneath! Duh!

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:09:22

#195

Dauntless: Admin; +2,249|6999|London

Jay wrote:
The one thing that really stood out to me is that 300 something number in reference to the number of people that have died in police custody. Does this mean they died in prison or that they died in the back room of the cop shop? If it's in prison, big fucking deal, if it's the latter, then, well, your cops make ours look like saints.

where did you hear that?

i've never heard anything like that before

2011-08-08 20:09:56

#196

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

Dauntless wrote:
Jay wrote:
The one thing that really stood out to me is that 300 something number in reference to the number of people that have died in police custody. Does this mean they died in prison or that they died in the back room of the cop shop? If it's in prison, big fucking deal, if it's the latter, then, well, your cops make ours look like saints.
where did you hear that?

i've never heard anything like that before

Uzi's labor rag mentioned it a few times.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:09:58

#197

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

DesertFox- wrote:
Jay wrote:
KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
it's a valid point, but the anger seems to be directed to people that aren't a part of the 'problem'. Seems like they should be mobbing in front of politicians houses, not store fronts. The same sort of thing happened immediately after the Rodney King trial here in the 1990s. It wasn't people upset strictly about the way the verdict went as much as people feeling marginalized and without a voice against oppressive capital overlords. Still, the brunt of the damage was felt by their peers, locals from their neighborhood that have no voice in what people in positions of power decide to do. For sure, the frustration is understandable, but these people alienate the general public (AKA their biggest resource in fighting tha powa) when they attack seemingly innocent everyday joe sixpacks.
I think the lasting image for me will always be the truck driver that they pulled out of his rig and smashed his head in with a fire extinguisher. Really? That truck driver oppressed you with his billy club? Come on.

Oh, and the Korean shop owner on the roof of his business shooting his rifle down into the crowd that was threatening him.
I was rather shocked how abandoned all the shops and such were. Perhaps it's because a storeowner would be largely helpless if people want to steal stuff or even assault someone else if they're in that mindset. In America, something like this would easily turn into a bloodbath.

selective footage, tbh. mates are telling me that turkish and foreign store owners all over south and east london are not taking any shit. they're stood outside their family stores with snapped snooker cues, bats, bottles, chains, etc. and will likely be standing there all night. not taking any shit. all i can say is thank fuck guns arent legal or easily available here... or we'd seriously have a very, very ugly situation.

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2011-08-08 20:11:16

#198

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

Jay wrote:
Dauntless wrote:
Jay wrote:
The one thing that really stood out to me is that 300 something number in reference to the number of people that have died in police custody. Does this mean they died in prison or that they died in the back room of the cop shop? If it's in prison, big fucking deal, if it's the latter, then, well, your cops make ours look like saints.
where did you hear that?

i've never heard anything like that before
Uzi's labor rag mentioned it a few times.

rofl the guardian as labour. good one m80. it was a 'comment' article fyi where they host the outspoken opinion of any thinker- non affiliated with their own views. does that concept make sense in america with your media? the woman writing the article was a philosophy/sociology prof at some liberal arts small college in london. no shit you're going to get lefty late-capitalism critique bollocks. the guardian is not a "labour rag". hahaha.

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2011-08-08 20:11:29

#199

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5615|London, England

Or, it wouldn't have occurred in the first place, or gotten so far out of hand... IJS.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-08-08 20:12:48

#200

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6727

people will be pissed off about the wider climate and context whether or not they can get their hands on a 9mm

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