this is the kinda case where i'm glad we have guns to at least fight back.
pretty terrible what's going on though.
pretty terrible what's going on though.
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just shoot themjustice wrote:
The way it's going at the moment they are just following the rioters tracks, they turn up after all the shops have been looted and set on fire. Apparently the rioters are communicating by facebook and Blackberry to get to ahead of the police to vulnerable areas, almost 4AM there now so I guess this will keep going and ease down in the morning....But it's spread to several other cities now.
All because some thug got shot after shooting at police. Facebook really isn't helping the situation though, just search "Mark Duggan" and see all the pages that come up and all the racism and flaming going on.
don't you live in a tax haven? as if you do shit to take care or contribute to "your city". these kids should be smashing up your shit, they probably pay more than you do.justice wrote:
Fuck Afghanistan, we need our army on the streets protecting our own!
look at the prick in the middle of the road, he knows the police can't touch him
And I'm more than happy to understand that. But violence is almost never the answer, especially against innocent people.KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
there's a point that you have to consider these people have all this anger because they feel marginalized
I think you're getting a lesson in human nature here.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
i mean really i'm not sure if these people have normal human brains.
No it's not a tax haven, the taxes here are more than in the UK. I spend half my time in London and half my time here, and lived in London for 16 years before I moved here, a few years of which were in Islington (where there are riots right now) and know people in a lot of the areas affected, including my sister, who lives in Clapham with her husband and 2 month old baby daughter...So, no.Uzique wrote:
don't you live in a tax haven? as if you do shit to take care or contribute to "your city". these kids should be smashing up your shit, they probably pay more than you do.justice wrote:
Fuck Afghanistan, we need our army on the streets protecting our own!
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they're pissed because they've slipped through the cracks, yeah. they have less opportunity now in their 20's than their parents did in the 1970's. they can't get onto the housing market until they're 40, let alone even find a job when they're 19. it's pretty dire, and none of the mainstream politics of today seems to be doing much to help them. only more cuts, more closures of their youth centres, more hits to their community to pay for austerity measures that they sure as hell didn't invite (they couldn't even access the economy, let alone ruin it).KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
there's a point that you have to consider these people have all this anger because they feel marginalized...but there seems to be a lot that are just souless opportunists with no regard for civility. it's fucking crazy.
i stand corrected, i thought antigua had a shitload of phoney businesses paying zilch on corp taxjustice wrote:
No it's not a tax haven, the taxes here are more than in the UK. I spend half my time in London and half my time here, and lived in London for 16 years before I moved here, a few years of which were in Islington (where there are riots right now) and know people in a lot of the areas affected, including my sister, who lives in Clapham with her husband and 2 month old baby daughter...So, no.Uzique wrote:
don't you live in a tax haven? as if you do shit to take care or contribute to "your city". these kids should be smashing up your shit, they probably pay more than you do.justice wrote:
Fuck Afghanistan, we need our army on the streets protecting our own!
But do you think that justifies what's going on?Uzique wrote:
they're pissed because they've slipped through the cracks, yeah. they have less opportunity now in their 20's than their parents did in the 1970's. they can't get onto the housing market until they're 40, let alone even find a job when they're 19. it's pretty dire, and none of the mainstream politics of today seems to be doing much to help them. only more cuts, more closures of their youth centres, more hits to their community to pay for austerity measures that they sure as hell didn't invite (they couldn't even access the economy, let alone ruin it).KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
there's a point that you have to consider these people have all this anger because they feel marginalized...but there seems to be a lot that are just souless opportunists with no regard for civility. it's fucking crazy.
then you get people like justice, living abroad in luxury, talking shit about them and encouraging police to use excessive force to keep "his city" clean. um, hello? i've had a stream of middle-class posh twats on facebook tonight spouting racist, classist bullshit and it's just as sickening as the actual events. really shows the ugly underside of britain. almost like two worlds. it's always the university educated toffs and the rich cats that have the most condemning thing to say about inner-city violence and poverty. im sure they know it well.
at least theyre not adding to the problem by buying cokeUzique wrote:
they're pissed because they've slipped through the cracks, yeah. they have less opportunity now in their 20's than their parents did in the 1970's. they can't get onto the housing market until they're 40, let alone even find a job when they're 19. it's pretty dire, and none of the mainstream politics of today seems to be doing much to help them. only more cuts, more closures of their youth centres, more hits to their community to pay for austerity measures that they sure as hell didn't invite (they couldn't even access the economy, let alone ruin it).KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
there's a point that you have to consider these people have all this anger because they feel marginalized...but there seems to be a lot that are just souless opportunists with no regard for civility. it's fucking crazy.
then you get people like justice, living abroad in luxury, talking shit about them and encouraging police to use excessive force to keep "his city" clean. um, hello? i've had a stream of middle-class posh twats on facebook tonight spouting racist, classist bullshit and it's just as sickening as the actual events. really shows the ugly underside of britain. almost like two worlds. it's always the university educated toffs and the rich cats that have the most condemning thing to say about inner-city violence and poverty. im sure they know it well.
let me now how buying coke furthers any problems w/r/t inner city poverty and economic recessionCybargs wrote:
at least theyre not adding to the problem by buying cokeUzique wrote:
they're pissed because they've slipped through the cracks, yeah. they have less opportunity now in their 20's than their parents did in the 1970's. they can't get onto the housing market until they're 40, let alone even find a job when they're 19. it's pretty dire, and none of the mainstream politics of today seems to be doing much to help them. only more cuts, more closures of their youth centres, more hits to their community to pay for austerity measures that they sure as hell didn't invite (they couldn't even access the economy, let alone ruin it).KEN-JENNINGS wrote:
there's a point that you have to consider these people have all this anger because they feel marginalized...but there seems to be a lot that are just souless opportunists with no regard for civility. it's fucking crazy.
then you get people like justice, living abroad in luxury, talking shit about them and encouraging police to use excessive force to keep "his city" clean. um, hello? i've had a stream of middle-class posh twats on facebook tonight spouting racist, classist bullshit and it's just as sickening as the actual events. really shows the ugly underside of britain. almost like two worlds. it's always the university educated toffs and the rich cats that have the most condemning thing to say about inner-city violence and poverty. im sure they know it well.