Im of course assuming that they have the technology to reach and are thus miles and miles ahead of us in terms of development as a species.
Any race more advanced would not make contact because it's a pointless endeavour. As Kmar said earlier, everything we have here on earth is available in exceedingly greater quantities all throughout the galaxy. Earth is just another big rock in space among the trillions of rocks floating around. If a civilisation more advanced than ours would make contact we have nothing to offer them. We'd be a resources & funds sink for the aliens. Interstellar charity.
I believe that, if an advanced alien civilisation exists, it will either avoid us until we have advanced ourselves enough to not need any of their help, or they would make contact simply out of curiosity. IMO the latter is unlikely.
I believe that, if an advanced alien civilisation exists, it will either avoid us until we have advanced ourselves enough to not need any of their help, or they would make contact simply out of curiosity. IMO the latter is unlikely.
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Indifferent is what I believe as well. I don't think they're looking to rape us when virtually every resource we value on this planet was delivered here in a game of cosmic pinball. Earth just happened to be in the way of some not-so-random asteroids and comets, and we're here existing in just a smidgen of time. Our fear of the unknown often takes precedent over logic.
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You guys are assuming aliens would be ultra rational hyper intelligent beings. What if they are just like us and would be interested in converting us to their religion or involving us in their own wars and stuff.
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I've watched Futurama and it seems to be no problem at all.
Except for those damn Neutrals!
Except for those damn Neutrals!
Makes no sense to me. Any civilisation capable of interstellar travel is surely rational and would have figured out that modern mythology serves little purpose at that point. I'm assuming that, given they are social beings at least among themselves, they will have capable leadership which is more interested in self preservation than 'galactic dominance'. Also, if we're talking about another species "war" has way too many variables to consider. If they can fly all the way over here, who knows what their warfare looks like? Chances are they need resources, not manpower. We'd just get in the way.
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If they are capable of reaching, then theyre not as simple as us.Macbeth wrote:
You guys are assuming aliens would be ultra rational hyper intelligent beings. What if they are just like us and would be interested in converting us to their religion or involving us in their own wars and stuff.
Feasibly you could establish communications with E.T but by the time you got there they would all be dead.
This whole space time stuffs everything right up lol.
This whole space time stuffs everything right up lol.
Thats the thing.
if aliens would be able to reach us without the huge delay/time barrier then that would mean that theyre so far ahead of us that it wont matter
if aliens would be able to reach us without the huge delay/time barrier then that would mean that theyre so far ahead of us that it wont matter
Technological development is not the same as social development.
They go hand in hand
inane little opines
pretty much.Shocking wrote:
They go hand in hand
It would be like us trying to communicate with the first homo sapiens, but with an ever greater technological and social gap
Not really no.
You are naive if you think they are.
Hardly. If your definition of social progress is debunking religion, then sure. As for the other 99% of social interaction, I'd say technology has taken us a step backwards.Shocking wrote:
They go hand in hand
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
It's not, but rationality does at some point take precedence over religious views.... and when has great technological progress -not- been accompanied by a very socially developed society? I would say that being socially developed is a requirement for advancement in any other field.
inane little opines
The problem with your line of thought is that you take it as a given that science has disproved that there is a god. It has done no such thing. Science simply explains how the universe works. Any discussion about what created the universe falls under the realm of philosophy, and as a byproduct, theology.Shocking wrote:
It's not, but rationality does at some point take precedence over religious views.... and when has great technological progress -not- been accompanied by a very socially developed society? I would say that being socially developed is a requirement for advancement in any other field.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
I don't believe science will ever prove or disprove wether or not god exists, arguing about it is pointless. Entire religions and traditions have been built around the idea however, and these have clashed with new discoveries countless of times.
inane little opines
Sure, and they either adapt to reality or become irrelevant over time.Shocking wrote:
I don't believe science will ever prove or disprove wether or not god exists, arguing about it is pointless. Entire religions and traditions have been built around the idea however, and these have clashed with new discoveries countless of times.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
should at least pick up the phone and say hi
No we're not. In fact if that's what you believe you've missed the point almost entirely. Assumptions are the problem. We do however tend to apply our own development as the rule.Macbeth wrote:
You guys are assuming aliens would be ultra rational hyper intelligent beings. What if they are just like us and would be interested in converting us to their religion or involving us in their own wars and stuff.
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Aliens would really screw up the whole religion thing though. God made the world (oh and that other one) ...
I imagine that given time they would be able to reconcile. The catholic church has already said aliens may exist.
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7399661.stm
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/7399661.stm
Xbone Stormsurgezz
it's ironic that people were busting a sensationalist semen nut over the large hadron collider's miniscule chance of a serious accident, yet they so blithely and excitedly encourage "making contact" with other lifeforms. we could be openly inviting the end of our world as we know it by making contact with other life-forms-- not even in the sci-fi 'war of the worlds' sense, i just mean in terms of pure contamination and biological/ecological disaster. i say lets sort our own collective shit out as a global civilization before we go presenting ourselves to anyone else.
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