you dyed your hair pink put it in a mohawk? damn
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urdoinitrongAussieReaper wrote:
That was the joke.FEOS wrote:
fixtAussieReaper wrote:
Where is your problem Camm?Camm wrote:
I have absolutely no problem with gay people, my flat-mate is bisexual, and one of my good friends is gay.
What I have a problem with is shoving this crap in kid's faces. What grade/age group is this stuff being directed at?
If you read anything about the struggle for gays to have equal rights, I'm sure you'd find it faaaaaaabulous.
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Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
IndeedShocking wrote:
you dyed your hair pink put it in a mohawk? damn
Life lesson for the causeheads of the world... square peg, round hole? Society is the hammer and the hammer almost always wins. It takes a very special person and/or idea to stand up to the relentless calls for conformity. This isn't necessarily a bad thing, because it acts as a check on ideas. As I said, it takes a strong person to stand up and take the abuse. I just feel that if we're to do stuff like a history month, it needs to be reserved for those that didn't have a choice when it came to the abuse.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
You're saying that to avoid abuse they should change who they are. If you have to change who you are to avoid abuse, can you see that that is due to discrimination?Jay wrote:
No child, you completely missed my point. I said that the only thing separating gay people from the rest of society is who they choose to spend their nights with. The way they talk, the way they dress, it is their way of voluntarily separating themselves from the rest of society. I'm not saying they need to conform, I'm saying that they easily can do so in a mixed setting in order to avoid abuse. Black people, Mexicans etc can't change the color of their skin and blend in.
Lastly, no, I don't want to dictate how people dress and act on the street. I was the kid in the mohawk getting taunted as I walked down the street. But, I understood that it was voluntary on my part to look like that. It's human nature to automatically hate what is new and different. It's a self defense mechanism. Wariness.
Last remaining discriminated classes... man you sure got gyped with your cause didn't you? You're already 99% of the way complete. I guess it's an easy sense of accomplishment to earn though. Fight the good fight though. I'm sure the people of this state really cared that an Aussie was cheering them on from the other side of the globe.
But you had a mohawk so obviously must know what they have had to go through. Clap, clap.
People that look or act different than the majority will always be persecuted to one degree or another. It's just human nature. I'm just saying that in the case of gay people, it's voluntary. I've known a number of gay people that talked and dressed 'normal'. It didn't make them any less gay, you just couldn't really tell by looking at them. It was their choice to blend in, just as it is others' choice to stand out.AussieReaper wrote:
You're saying that to avoid abuse they should change who they are. If you have to change who you are to avoid abuse, can you see that that is due to discrimination?Jay wrote:
No child, you completely missed my point. I said that the only thing separating gay people from the rest of society is who they choose to spend their nights with. The way they talk, the way they dress, it is their way of voluntarily separating themselves from the rest of society. I'm not saying they need to conform, I'm saying that they easily can do so in a mixed setting in order to avoid abuse. Black people, Mexicans etc can't change the color of their skin and blend in.
Lastly, no, I don't want to dictate how people dress and act on the street. I was the kid in the mohawk getting taunted as I walked down the street. But, I understood that it was voluntary on my part to look like that. It's human nature to automatically hate what is new and different. It's a self defense mechanism. Wariness.
Last remaining discriminated classes... man you sure got gyped with your cause didn't you? You're already 99% of the way complete. I guess it's an easy sense of accomplishment to earn though. Fight the good fight though. I'm sure the people of this state really cared that an Aussie was cheering them on from the other side of the globe.
But you had a mohawk so obviously must know what they have had to go through. Clap, clap.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Yeah to be honest the camp act shits off other non-camp gay people sometimes. I've known two gay men in my life who both said they can't stand it.Jay wrote:
People that look or act different than the majority will always be persecuted to one degree or another. It's just human nature. I'm just saying that in the case of gay people, it's voluntary. I've known a number of gay people that talked and dressed 'normal'. It didn't make them any less gay, you just couldn't really tell by looking at them. It was their choice to blend in, just as it is others' choice to stand out.AussieReaper wrote:
You're saying that to avoid abuse they should change who they are. If you have to change who you are to avoid abuse, can you see that that is due to discrimination?Jay wrote:
No child, you completely missed my point. I said that the only thing separating gay people from the rest of society is who they choose to spend their nights with. The way they talk, the way they dress, it is their way of voluntarily separating themselves from the rest of society. I'm not saying they need to conform, I'm saying that they easily can do so in a mixed setting in order to avoid abuse. Black people, Mexicans etc can't change the color of their skin and blend in.
Lastly, no, I don't want to dictate how people dress and act on the street. I was the kid in the mohawk getting taunted as I walked down the street. But, I understood that it was voluntary on my part to look like that. It's human nature to automatically hate what is new and different. It's a self defense mechanism. Wariness.
Last remaining discriminated classes... man you sure got gyped with your cause didn't you? You're already 99% of the way complete. I guess it's an easy sense of accomplishment to earn though. Fight the good fight though. I'm sure the people of this state really cared that an Aussie was cheering them on from the other side of the globe.
But you had a mohawk so obviously must know what they have had to go through. Clap, clap.
I have too. Straight people look at the ridiculous gay pride parades and assume all gay people are like that. It makes calls for full integration exponentially more difficult. Gays in the military? The ignorant can just point and ask "do we want that behavior in our military?". The minority is fucking it up for the majority, just like the minority of system abusing immigrants provoke calls for kicking out all immigrants. Fair? No. But it's reality.Jaekus wrote:
Yeah to be honest the camp act shits off other non-camp gay people sometimes. I've known two gay men in my life who both said they can't stand it.Jay wrote:
People that look or act different than the majority will always be persecuted to one degree or another. It's just human nature. I'm just saying that in the case of gay people, it's voluntary. I've known a number of gay people that talked and dressed 'normal'. It didn't make them any less gay, you just couldn't really tell by looking at them. It was their choice to blend in, just as it is others' choice to stand out.AussieReaper wrote:
You're saying that to avoid abuse they should change who they are. If you have to change who you are to avoid abuse, can you see that that is due to discrimination?
But you had a mohawk so obviously must know what they have had to go through. Clap, clap.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Which still isn't an excuse for stomping on people until they 'comform'.
Much of the acting out is a response to the intolerance, ignore them and they'll get bored eventually.
Much of the acting out is a response to the intolerance, ignore them and they'll get bored eventually.
Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-07-06 05:48:09)
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No, but unfortunately the world is full of prejudices. I know a couple gay guys who are camp, that's their prerogative and it doesn't bother me, but you also have to expect some people are going to treat you differently according to how you dress and act. It is just the way the world is. If I turned up to a business meeting in a corporate setting wearing board shorts and thongs I would be treated differently than if I turned up in a suit and tie.
Don't be a prick in the roses
No one's impressed with your lack of respect.
We're all black sheep and we know it
So don't fuck it up for the rest.
Don't make a name for yourself
By stressing out everyone else
And don't bring your personal wars
Through these doors.
No one's impressed with your lack of respect.
We're all black sheep and we know it
So don't fuck it up for the rest.
Don't make a name for yourself
By stressing out everyone else
And don't bring your personal wars
Through these doors.
Last edited by Jay (2011-07-06 05:51:11)
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
A business meeting is a formal environment with rules of etiquette and so on.
How people act in their leisure time is up to them.
How people act in their leisure time is up to them.
Fuck Israel
I think you've missed my point.Dilbert_X wrote:
A business meeting is a formal environment with rules of etiquette and so on.
How people act in their leisure time is up to them.
Not really, some environments have strict rules of behaviour, some don't.
If you're bothered with how someone is acting in a non-formal envirnment its your problem.
If you're bothered with how someone is acting in a non-formal envirnment its your problem.
Fuck Israel
I agree to a certain extent, but I'm realistic enough to understand that the vast majority are naturally conservative and that there will always be friction. Fighting human nature is like pushing water uphill.Dilbert_X wrote:
Not really, some environments have strict rules of behaviour, some don't.
If you're bothered with how someone is acting in a non-formal envirnment its your problem.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Whilst I agree with that, it is simply not how everyone sees the world, or acts accordingly.
I agree militant camp gays don't really help themselves, but its not exactly much of an issue.
Fuck Israel
this.Jaekus wrote:
Yeah true. But making it compulsory means little will change. They already teach history involving gay people. All they'd have to do is an assignment here or there focussing on someone who was gay. Meh.
Anyone that did anything of historical value is already being recognized in history or their historical contribution. Now they want to add a footnote by his name that, says " oh yeah, and he did that being gay"? Basically they want to add a historical significance to being gay.
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Black history is understandable because being black was at the heart of our history. Being gay was not.
For a group of people that want nothing more than to be "equal" they sure are going out of their way to ensure they get special treatment, special recognition, and special acknowledgment. It is bullshit.
Last edited by lowing (2011-07-06 07:08:57)
I'm white and I feel we are being oppressed, currently. Where is "White History"?
Last edited by War Man (2011-07-06 07:03:55)
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How are you being oppressed War Man?
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By whom?War Man wrote:
I'm white and I feel we are being oppressed, currently. Where is "White History"?
by mods!1!!!11Ty wrote:
How are you being oppressed War Man?
Every time I think War Man could not possibly say something more retarded, he always goes one further.
I prefer to steer clear of any equal rights / racism / oppression argument tbh. If you disagree people are going to label you as being intolerant / racist and so on, it's a quagmire. People want their special day? Let them.
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the law doesnt recognize gays as a classAussieReaper wrote:
It is a class of people. Why do you think they were denied the right to marry? That was based on the classification of gay.lowing wrote:
Gay is not a class of people. It is not a race and being gay has nothing to do with their accomplishments in history. Bullshit like this is the same thing as teaching the "fat people history" Highlighting the accomplishments of fat people, when their weight has nothing to do with their accomplishments of finding a cure for polio or inventing the light bulb.
Secondly, the have accomplishments when you look at the challenge for equal rights. Same as the struggle for equal rights for blacks. And before that, for women.
You're really on a roll lately with ignorant posts.
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lowing, are you unemployed again?
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