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lowing wrote:

Shocking wrote:

And with that I suppose you are mostly referring to domestic issues specifically the healthcare plan right?

I can agree on that it's a bad idea to nationalise healthcare in a country like the US.
Well not only that, the whole idea that a nation can tax itself into prosperity thing, or the, you work harder so others don't have to thing, the, I am going to be the most transparent president ever thing etc... there is a lot to bitch about domestically
You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said ... I have a hard time believing any politician in the US or elsewhere actually have said something like that or believed such an idea ... not even "communist" tax loving Norway have ever been close to such an idea ...
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lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Shocking wrote:

And with that I suppose you are mostly referring to domestic issues specifically the healthcare plan right?

I can agree on that it's a bad idea to nationalise healthcare in a country like the US.
Well not only that, the whole idea that a nation can tax itself into prosperity thing, or the, you work harder so others don't have to thing, the, I am going to be the most transparent president ever thing etc... there is a lot to bitch about domestically
You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said ... I have a hard time believing any politician in the US or elsewhere actually have said something like that or believed such an idea ... not even "communist" tax loving Norway have ever been close to such an idea ...
believe it
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/a … 22863.html

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- … ough-money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSR … re=related
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Varegg wrote:

You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said
Man creates imaginary straw-man
Man knocks down imaginary straw-man
Man is genius

19 Pages and its no smarter than 'Obama bad -> Palin good'
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Varegg
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lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:


Well not only that, the whole idea that a nation can tax itself into prosperity thing, or the, you work harder so others don't have to thing, the, I am going to be the most transparent president ever thing etc... there is a lot to bitch about domestically
You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said ... I have a hard time believing any politician in the US or elsewhere actually have said something like that or believed such an idea ... not even "communist" tax loving Norway have ever been close to such an idea ...
believe it
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/a … 22863.html

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- … ough-money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSR … re=related
Taken out of context it's easy to formulate a sentence to something else than intended when speaking of such issues loosly in general term ...
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Varegg wrote:

You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said
Man creates imaginary straw-man
Man knocks down imaginary straw-man
Man is genius

19 Pages and its no smarter than 'Obama bad -> Palin good'
imaginary huh? maybe you need to pay closer attention what Obama has said and done rather than focus all of your attention on a woman who hasn't done anything of consequence.
lowing
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Varegg wrote:

lowing wrote:

Varegg wrote:


You keep stressing those two issues like it ever was something Obama actually said ... I have a hard time believing any politician in the US or elsewhere actually have said something like that or believed such an idea ... not even "communist" tax loving Norway have ever been close to such an idea ...
believe it
http://www.lewrockwell.com/blog/lewrw/a … 22863.html

http://www.examiner.com/political-buzz- … ough-money

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OoqI5PSR … re=related
Taken out of context it's easy to formulate a sentence to something else than intended when speaking of such issues loosly in general term ...
yer kiddin' right?  How was this taken out of context, especially considering what he is trying to do and has done?
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This thread is about Palin, not Obama.
Obama is irrelevant in this context.

Arguing that the Republicans should pick a stupid, ignorant candidate because the Democrats picked someone stupider and ignranter is, um, I dunno...
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

This thread is about Palin, not Obama.
Obama is irrelevant in this context.

Arguing that the Republicans should pick a stupid, ignorant candidate because the Democrats picked someone stupider and ignranter is, um, I dunno...
I defy you to point out where I said the Republicans should pick Palin. I said, once again, it is stupid to focus on Palin, considering all of the stupidity and retardation that is actually taking place, over some bullshit of what believing in dinosaurs and men living to together could bring about.

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lowing wrote:

FEOS wrote:

lowing wrote:


no it was a what if to gauge just how important an issue man living with dinosaurs is ,compared to real issues that REALLY should concern you. The what if being, finding out Palin was right, would it change anything for you since your big hang up is men vs dinosaurs and not the economy, the wars, foreign policy etc....

Obama quintupled our national debt, started another war, rose the unemployment rate to double digits, has a tax cheat in charge of the treasury, yeah but, Palin believes in creationism!! GET A ROPE!!! Fuckin' ridiculous, honestly.
Lowing, I think the issue is not that she is a creationist alone. The issue is that she lacks critical thinking skills. To say something like "humans and dinosaurs coexisted" or to even insinuate such a thing--when there is zero evidence to support such a statement and loads of evidence to contradict it--should give one pause when considering her thought processes in general.

That is not to say that Obama is a great alternative, based on his proven track record in office. Tbh, if it were between her and Obama, I'd be pulling hard for a third party candidate...any third party candidate.
If it isn't the issue alone and you think she is "retard" then surely there is something with a little more bite to it to use as an example of her retardation. It is a personal belief, not her national policy. Considering the shit Obama has done, in real life, it is a benign belief that dos not affect anything, and you wanna claim it is more dangerous than Obama's ACTUAL policies and plans. That is what I dispute.
Point to where I used the words "belief" or "retarded."
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lowing
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FEOS wrote:

lowing wrote:

FEOS wrote:


Lowing, I think the issue is not that she is a creationist alone. The issue is that she lacks critical thinking skills. To say something like "humans and dinosaurs coexisted" or to even insinuate such a thing--when there is zero evidence to support such a statement and loads of evidence to contradict it--should give one pause when considering her thought processes in general.

That is not to say that Obama is a great alternative, based on his proven track record in office. Tbh, if it were between her and Obama, I'd be pulling hard for a third party candidate...any third party candidate.
If it isn't the issue alone and you think she is "retard" then surely there is something with a little more bite to it to use as an example of her retardation. It is a personal belief, not her national policy. Considering the shit Obama has done, in real life, it is a benign belief that dos not affect anything, and you wanna claim it is more dangerous than Obama's ACTUAL policies and plans. That is what I dispute.
Point to where I used the words "belief" or "retarded."
I am referring to the argument in this thread, in general, that Palin is a retard and stupid and unfit because she believes in creationism and how that could start WW3 compared to the sludge washington is buried in now, in reality.
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Kmar wrote:

She quits her elected position, invites TV cameras in her home, joins fox news, stars in her own reality show, puts out a book, tours the nation in a giant bus with her name plastered across the constituttion. .. and she wonders why the media won't leave her alone?

She's trying to supplant her ignorance with sympathy. The fact that people actually buy this victim of the "lame stream" media act is amazing to me.
I don't think she's any longer the victim of a leftist media, but she was during the last Presidential election. No other candidate received the amount of scrutiny as she did.
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lowing wrote:

it is stupid to focus on Palin
This thread is about Palin
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lowing
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Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

it is stupid to focus on Palin
This thread is about Palin
I give you a nickel if for once, you quote an entire sentence in the context it was written an argue that.
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Dilbert_X wrote:

Man knocks down imaginary straw-man
Man is genius
That's exactly what they did to palin.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something.  - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Jaekus
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lowing wrote:

I know what you are saying, and I understand it. My point has never been Palin isn't a retard

lowing wrote:

Retarded how? What has she done that was so retarded, wear white after labor day? I mean it is bullshit like her wardrobe that the the left goes after. Hell, like sharks in the water they couldn't wait to tear apart her released emails, and once they did they still got nothing. I found it funny that the left ripped her apart over the paul revere comments, only to find out she was right. Then they started in on the, "well, she was right by accident", yeah, and SHE is the retard? lol
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Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

I know what you are saying, and I understand it. My point has never been Palin isn't a retard

lowing wrote:

Retarded how? What has she done that was so retarded, wear white after labor day? I mean it is bullshit like her wardrobe that the the left goes after. Hell, like sharks in the water they couldn't wait to tear apart her released emails, and once they did they still got nothing. I found it funny that the left ripped her apart over the paul revere comments, only to find out she was right. Then they started in on the, "well, she was right by accident", yeah, and SHE is the retard? lol
Yup and the question still stands. Elaborating on the obvious, compared to the overwhelming retardation in Washington that is actually in practice.

SO far it has been her clothes, her family, her hair, her glasses, and Paul Revere, oh wait!! forget that Paul Revere thing, you were the dumb ass in calling her a dumb ass on that one,  it was her burning books, shit wait again, forget that book burning thing we made that up.  HEY! Lets get her on her emails, shit can't do that either...I KNOW!! She believes in creationism!!! YES THATS IT!! BURN THE WITCH!!!. I am the only one that sees the desperation in these attempts?

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Jaekus
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I wonder what it's like to be so stubborn that despite a whole forum trying to show you ANY other side of the story one continues to CHOOSE to be blind.

Guess I'll never know.
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Jaekus wrote:

I wonder what it's like to be so stubborn that despite a whole forum trying to show you ANY other side of the story one continues to CHOOSE to be blind.

Guess I'll never know.
Lets face jaekus, you hate Palin because she is a conservative and you can't come up with any real scandal or controversy to justify it. So you attack her belief in creationism and the possibility that based on that she could push the button and start WW3. As if THAT, and not the felons, and morally and ethically corrupt officials in Washington are the real problem. Why not just say you hate her because she has a different opinion than you do and move along. No need to invent shit like book burnings and Paul Revere "facts".

Oh and for you to ignore my point on this topic, doesn't that make you equally as stubborn? Thats different I suppose.

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lowing
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I mean c'mon, this board spent YEARS trashing Bush for absolutely everything under the sun. Obama is a continuation of those exact same polices yet he gets a pass and is largely ignored or forgiven or defended by those same people. Palin comes along and has literally done nothing, yet now you turn the blow torch toward her instead of Obama because of shit SHE MIGHT do? A little to obvious as to your motives folks. Conveniently we are not talking about ethics or morality or corruption in Washington, hell no, the real threat is Palin, and what she might do because she believes in creationism.
Jaekus
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lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I wonder what it's like to be so stubborn that despite a whole forum trying to show you ANY other side of the story one continues to CHOOSE to be blind.

Guess I'll never know.
Lets face jaekus, you hate Palin because she is a conservative and you can't come up with any real scandal or controversy to justify it. So you attack her belief in creationism and the possibility that based on that she could push the button and start WW3. As if THAT, and not the felons, and morally and ethically corrupt officials in Washington are the real problem. Why not just say you hate her because she has a different opinion than you do and move along. No need to invent shit like book burnings and Paul Revere "facts".

Oh and for you to ignore my point on this topic, doesn't that make you equally as stubborn? Thats different I suppose.
You are wonderful at putting words in people's mouths, real talent you have there.

If you bother going back through the thread you'll find I've said none of these things.

Your argument is as flimsy as a tissue.
Jaekus
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lowing wrote:

I mean c'mon, this board spent YEARS trashing Bush for absolutely everything under the sun. Obama is a continuation of those exact same polices yet he gets a pass and is largely ignored or forgiven or defended by those same people. Palin comes along and has literally done nothing, yet now you turn the blow torch toward her instead of Obama because of shit SHE MIGHT do? A little to obvious as to your motives folks. Conveniently we are not talking about ethics or morality or corruption in Washington, hell no, the real threat is Palin, and what she might do because she believes in creationism.
You are an odd fellow.
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^maybe or maybe not, but lowing has and excellent point.
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no he doesnt
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Jaekus
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13rin wrote:

^maybe or maybe not, but lowing has and excellent point.
Crying about people's opinions is classed as having a good point these days? Deary me.

Don't forgot to gloss over the fact that people from both sides of the political fence are criticising Palin here.
lowing
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Jaekus wrote:

lowing wrote:

Jaekus wrote:

I wonder what it's like to be so stubborn that despite a whole forum trying to show you ANY other side of the story one continues to CHOOSE to be blind.

Guess I'll never know.
Lets face jaekus, you hate Palin because she is a conservative and you can't come up with any real scandal or controversy to justify it. So you attack her belief in creationism and the possibility that based on that she could push the button and start WW3. As if THAT, and not the felons, and morally and ethically corrupt officials in Washington are the real problem. Why not just say you hate her because she has a different opinion than you do and move along. No need to invent shit like book burnings and Paul Revere "facts".

Oh and for you to ignore my point on this topic, doesn't that make you equally as stubborn? Thats different I suppose.
You are wonderful at putting words in people's mouths, real talent you have there.

If you bother going back through the thread you'll find I've said none of these things.

Your argument is as flimsy as a tissue.
I am addressing the general consensus here jaekus, and the "facts" used to condemn Palin. and like it or not that is what has been posted here.

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