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Shocking wrote:

lowing wrote:

Prying into his past? All the want is to review his college records, not exactly unheard of before Obama.

and we can not even judge him on his credentials from Columbia or Harvard. HE WON"T TELL. If he was such a shit hot Harvard intellect wouldn't you think we would know about it?
Why he's keeping all of it a secret? I don't know, I can make wild guesses but that's pointless. All I know is that considering he graduated with the highest honors from harvard law he did really good, because that's something only few people manage each year - proving that he is capable. And considering Harvard is quite prestigious I very much doubt he cheated his way through, which is probably the only reason people want to analyze all his college records.

lowing wrote:

How exactly has Obama demonstrated an articulate and intelligent persona? He reads everything and does not think for himself. There is no transparency that he promised,
Have you followed the debates and interviews? He's good at taking questions and answering them, and in those cases you don't have a teleprompter or script to read from.

lowing wrote:

and I am sorry, if you believe in the jewish zombi, a man living inside a whale and woman from a rack of ribs, you are already beyond reason, it is funny that man living with dinosaurs is what it takes to push you over the edge as way to absurd.
Yes. Creationism is definitely over the edge of absurdity for me. I can somewhat understand the whole church going thing and being a christian as half my family is devout, but once people start turning to creationism they completely lose me. That's absolutely absurd, much more so than any other religious group.


lowing wrote:

Sad thing is, for pages I took you for your word that Palin wanted to ban books as fact without checking, even though I never heard that. What else are you wrong about her, or is that it?
I got that from Ty earlier in the thread. I didn't know about the books thing until he mentioned it, and when I read it I wasn't surprised if it were true as it almost fits with the image she's been displaying so far.

Everything else I have said is what I remember from (usually multiple) articles and interviews. So yeah that's probably all.
funny he could not graduate with honors from Columbia, and SHOULDN'T have been accepted into Harvard because of it in the first place, yet he graduates from Harvard with honors, and we are not allowed to see it. yeah nothing wrong there. and why even question it ,it is Obama after all.

Plenty of youtube videos that dispute this.

Can you be a Christian without believing in intelligent design not sure. Well I guess as a Christian you can believe in whatever the hell you want as long as it is convenient.

See how rumors get started?
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lowing wrote:

funny he could not graduate with honors from Columbia, and SHOULDN'T have been accepted into Harvard because of it in the first place, yet he graduates from Harvard with honors, and we are not allowed to see it. yeah nothing wrong there. and why even question it ,it is Obama after all.

Plenty of youtube videos that dispute this.
To be honest it happens quite often that people perform badly at first and do much, much better later on in college. Know a few cases myself; it happens when people start to realise their goals and see the importance of education.

He shouldn't have been accepted, but he was. Good on him.

lowing wrote:

Can you be a Christian without believing in intelligent design not sure. Well I guess as a Christian you can believe in whatever the hell you want as long as it is convenient.
Yep, the majority of christians adjust their views quite heavily from what's written. It's been done ever since the religion first came about.

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Shocking wrote:

lowing wrote:

funny he could not graduate with honors from Columbia, and SHOULDN'T have been accepted into Harvard because of it in the first place, yet he graduates from Harvard with honors, and we are not allowed to see it. yeah nothing wrong there. and why even question it ,it is Obama after all.

Plenty of youtube videos that dispute this.
To be honest it happens quite often that people perform badly at first and do much, much better later on in college. Know a few cases myself; it happens when people start to realise their goals and see the importance of education.

He shouldn't have been accepted, but he was. Good on him.

lowing wrote:

Can you be a Christian without believing in intelligent design not sure. Well I guess as a Christian you can believe in whatever the hell you want as long as it is convenient.
Yep, the majority of christians adjust their views quite heavily from what's written. It's been done ever since the religion first came about.
If he is so proud, why not release his transcripts? They want us to KNOW he graduated with honors from Harvard, they just don't want to release the work that won him that accomplishment? Yeah ok. They are breaking their backs hiding access to everything from his college years including his friends, room mates etc...and yet Palin is who you wanna direct the blow torch toward? Even when it has been shown you are not even factual in your list of things you hate about her?
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Thing is, Palin is an open book, she has her opinions, you agree with them or not. Obama is shrouded in cover ups and mystery and questionable relationships,. We can read Palin's emails but are not even allowed to see Obamas grades, that makes him more of a concern than Palin right now. Mr transparency is a liar and is as transparent as mud.

What you don't know about Obama should concern you more than what you apparently think you know about Palin.

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Well, a roommate did say his grades went up when he stopped taking drugs, I dunno if they 'hide' them.

You want to know why, I tell you I know as much as you do on that.

Harvard however is one of the most prestigious universities on the planet and I am 100% certain they make absolutely sure to check people's work. Besides that, he also had to do a lot of tests (which is hard to cheat may I add) - on which he has had to score good else you don't graduate summa cum laude.

lowing you pick one thing out of the many reasons I've given you as to why she would make for a bad president. (also the only reason I brought up after I read it in this thread) That hardly 'crushes' my argument, and I've already admitted that it was wrong. Third time now actually. "Has been shown you are not factual" gimme a break.

Yeah, because we're comparing Obama to Palin, if I have to choose between the two I'll direct the blowtorch to Palin.
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I live in Europe so I'm safe
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Nah, mooslims aren't even 8% of the population here and people are already voting on right wing extremists en masse. I'm shielded by mass xenophobia.
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Shocking wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Shocking wrote:


Yeah except for the fact that archeology doesn't support that notion at all.
How so? The prints are there...oh and the Bible says we lived together with the dinosaurs.
For starters, both prints are just as deep, which would mean that the dinosaur and the human were of similar weight. That while the dinosaur feet were much larger and of probably quite a heavy species.

Archaelogical investigation of the site does not support it being a human. May look like it at first glance but it's not.
Humans used to be bigger.

Dr. Hovind theory bro
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Shocking wrote:

Well, a roommate did say his grades went up when he stopped taking drugs, I dunno if they 'hide' them.

You want to know why, I tell you I know as much as you do on that.

Harvard however is one of the most prestigious universities on the planet and I am 100% certain they make absolutely sure to check people's work. Besides that, he also had to do a lot of tests (which is hard to cheat may I add) - on which he has had to score good else you don't graduate summa cum laude.

lowing you pick one thing out of the many reasons I've given you as to why she would make for a bad president. (also the only reason I brought up after I read it in this thread) That hardly 'crushes' my argument, and I've already admitted that it was wrong. Third time now actually. "Has been shown you are not factual" gimme a break.

Yeah, because we're comparing Obama to Palin, if I have to choose between the two I'll direct the blowtorch to Palin.
What you are telling me is Obama's questionable credentials, who he chooses to befriend, what he has already done, is all forgivable, but Palin and her creationism, that, we need to crucify. Everything else you have listed against Palin has already been shown, she does not stand alone in any of it thus no reason to single her out as if she does.
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-Sh1fty- wrote:

Shocking wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

How so? The prints are there...oh and the Bible says we lived together with the dinosaurs.
For starters, both prints are just as deep, which would mean that the dinosaur and the human were of similar weight. That while the dinosaur feet were much larger and of probably quite a heavy species.

Archaelogical investigation of the site does not support it being a human. May look like it at first glance but it's not.
Humans used to be bigger.

Dr. Hovind theory bro
So much bigger that they've got the same strides and weight as a full grown dinosaur?

His feet are probably awfully small if he's going to carry such an enormous body. Or is it an alien?!

lowing wrote:

What you are telling me is Obama's questionable credentials, who he chooses to befriend, what he has already done, is all forgivable, but Palin and her creationism, that, we need to crucify. Everything else you have listed against Palin has already been shown, she does not stand alone in any of it thus no reason to single her out as if she does.
Least he won't make a fool of himself in international endeavours. If you would have elected Palin anti-american sentiment would have been at a record breaking high everywhere around the planet. She's clueless. Not fit for presidency.

Obama has faults, he is probably cunning as I said before. He's definitely not so great as he seemed during the elections, but I'd bet money on it that he would do a much better job than Palin. Oh, and I don't see his credentials as being very questionable. I will trust the school board and the professors that taught him in the fact that he really did graduate summa cum laude. He did give lectures, he was a senator. End.

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Shocking wrote:

-Sh1fty- wrote:

Shocking wrote:


For starters, both prints are just as deep, which would mean that the dinosaur and the human were of similar weight. That while the dinosaur feet were much larger and of probably quite a heavy species.

Archaelogical investigation of the site does not support it being a human. May look like it at first glance but it's not.
Humans used to be bigger.

Dr. Hovind theory bro
So much bigger that they've got the same strides and weight as a full grown dinosaur?

His feet are probably awfully small if he's going to carry such an enormous body. Or is it an alien?!
What are you talking about?

https://www.badarchaeology.net/images/paluxy_taylor.jpg

That isn't the same stride.
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lowing wrote:

Shocking wrote:

Well, a roommate did say his grades went up when he stopped taking drugs, I dunno if they 'hide' them.

You want to know why, I tell you I know as much as you do on that.

Harvard however is one of the most prestigious universities on the planet and I am 100% certain they make absolutely sure to check people's work. Besides that, he also had to do a lot of tests (which is hard to cheat may I add) - on which he has had to score good else you don't graduate summa cum laude.

lowing you pick one thing out of the many reasons I've given you as to why she would make for a bad president. (also the only reason I brought up after I read it in this thread) That hardly 'crushes' my argument, and I've already admitted that it was wrong. Third time now actually. "Has been shown you are not factual" gimme a break.

Yeah, because we're comparing Obama to Palin, if I have to choose between the two I'll direct the blowtorch to Palin.
What you are telling me is Obama's questionable credentials, who he chooses to befriend, what he has already done, is all forgivable, but Palin and her creationism, that, we need to crucify. Everything else you have listed against Palin has already been shown, she does not stand alone in any of it thus no reason to single her out as if she does.
So fine then... Where did the bamster sit at church for some 20 years?  Reverend Wright...



oh..... my.



Shocking wrote:

Obama has faults, he is probably cunning as I said before. He's definitely not so great as he seemed during the elections, but I'd bet money on it that he would do a much better job than Palin. Oh, and I don't see his credentials as being very questionable. I will trust the school board and the professors that taught him in the fact that he really did graduate summa cum laude. He did give lectures, he was a senator. End.
Palin wasn't running for president back then.

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-Sh1fty- wrote:

What are you talking about?

http://www.badarchaeology.net/images/paluxy_taylor.jpg

That isn't the same stride.
Larger and makes little sense with how humans actually walk. Still there's the issue of the depth of the print and that, apparantly, the footprint doesn't match that of a human either.

lowing wrote:

So fine then... Where did the bamster sit at church for some 20 years?  Reverend Wright...
Yeah, not the greatest guy but then again Obama didn't really strike me as a very religious person either. I doubt he actually is.

lowing wrote:

Palin wasn't running for president back then.
VP... still a very important post. She would have drawn tonnes of media attention, especially due to how controversial she is.

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eleven bravo wrote:

Europeans are a disease that can only be cured by coca-cola and walt disney
well hitler almost did
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He did jews. The rest were fine.


more or less

unless you were polish
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Shocking wrote:

He did jews. The rest were fine.


more or less

unless you were polish
he took over france although that wasnt too hard
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That's because of belgium, they fail at everything.
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Shocking wrote:

Yeah, not the greatest guy but then again Obama didn't really strike me as a very religious person either. I doubt he actually is.
Rev. didn't sound too religious there.  So what is more controversial, a legit church, or some quasi militant US hating preacher?

VP... still a very important post. She would have drawn tonnes of media attention, especially due to how controversial she is.
Apples and oranges there.  Biden should have been compared to Palin, not the bamster.


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Jay wrote:

Just want to defend one of lowings points. Science and religion can coexist. I know there are a lot of rabid atheists here but I'm perfectly ok if a person of faith accepts evolution and chalks it up to intelligent design. I'm cool with them attributing the big bang to their god. Its not like you can prove it wasnt done by their god anyway. I'd rather accept them on these terms than dismiss them completely because of intellectual bigotry.

The only people I can't stomach are creationists.
Why are you marrying a Catholic then if you can't stomach them?
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