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AussieReaper wrote:

lowing wrote:

Obama thinks there are 57 states

I somehow doubt that.

lowing wrote:

Ty wrote:

For me on lowing's creationism question, yes. If I agreed with a candidate on every issue but that candidate swore that the earth and all it's creatures were made 6000 years ago by an invisible spaceman I would not vote for them ever. The type of person who would believe in creationism despite all the evidence to the contrary is one I wouldn't elect.

This is a hypothetical and I strongly doubt that somone who believed in creationism would share even the majority of my political beliefs. But if this person did exist, yeah I wouldn't vote for them.

But Palin's not even that. She's a creationist and she wants this taught as science. The fact that she's a creationist is bad enough, the fact she wants it taught as a plausable scientific theory is inexcusable.

We've been on creationism for a while though and it's far from the only thing Palin has proven herself to be a retard on.

Let's see:
- She's a creationist and thinks this should be taught in schools, (we've touched on this.)
- She thinks humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
- She couldn't name a founding father other than George Washington.
- She has in the past partaken in faith healing which is close to bat-shit retarded as you can get.
- She considers Africa a country.
- To add hilarity to this she also referred to South Africa as a continent.
- She believes abstintance should be taught instead of proper sex education despite the knowledge of how well that turned out for her daughter.
- She believes the second coming of Christ and the Rapture will happen in her lifetime - this puts her in league with the people who were oh-so-disappointed late last month.
- After becoming the Republican VP candidate she made it quite clear she didn't know what the job of a VP is.
- She can't name a newspaper she reads.
- She didn't know the difference betwen North and South Korea, ("We must stand with our North Korean allies".)
- She couldn't name any Supreme Court cases other than Roe v Wade.
- Lastly, (meaning the last thing I'm going to mention,) as mayor of Wasilla she tried to ban books from the local library, (books like A Clockwork Orange, Brave New World, the Harry Potter series, Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Slaughterhouse Five, The Catcher in the Rye, The Grapes of Wrath, The Merchant of Venice and a number of other Shakespeare works, To Kill A Mockingbird and many many more.)

This last one more than anything else speaks to the type of person Palin is - but coupled with things like the creationist thing, the lack of knowledge about the judiciary, the lack of knowlege about geography, the irrational faith, (and yes I very much hold that as a negative,) the lack of anything that would suggest she has the tiniest intellectual streak. Politicians make gaffs, they have brainfarts but Palin is something else entirely.

This is a retard. I say this knowing full well that she'd probably get falsely offended by the word because of her down syndrome son; to which I would respond I would never call Trig Palin a retard. I would call Sarah Palin one.

Good points, shall we now review Obama's "retarded" credentials? point is, every politician, based on your examples, could be considered a "retard". Obama thinks there are 57 states and the Marine Corps is now the Marine "Corpse"  are a few examples. yet, where are all the "retard" comments. I am not hearing you say you would not vote for Obama because of things like these.

Ty wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ty wrote:

For me on lowing's creationism question, yes. If I agreed with a candidate on every issue but that candidate swore that the earth and all it's creatures were made 6000 years ago by an invisible spaceman I would not vote for them ever. The type of person who would believe in creationism despite all the evidence to the contrary is one I wouldn't elect.

This is a hypothetical and I strongly doubt that somone who believed in creationism would share even the majority of my political beliefs. But if this person did exist, yeah I wouldn't vote for them.

But Palin's not even that. She's a creationist and she wants this taught as science. The fact that she's a creationist is bad enough, the fact she wants it taught as a plausable scientific theory is inexcusable.

We've been on creationism for a while though and it's far from the only thing Palin has proven herself to be a retard on.

Let's see:
- She's a creationist and thinks this should be taught in schools, (we've touched on this.)
- She thinks humans and dinosaurs coexisted.
- She couldn't name a founding father other than George Washington.
- She has in the past partaken in faith healing which is close to bat-shit retarded as you can get.
- She considers Africa a country.
- To add hilarity to this she also referred to South Africa as a continent.
- She believes abstintance should be taught instead of proper sex education despite the knowledge of how well that turned out for her daughter.
- She believes the second coming of Christ and the Rapture will happen in her lifetime - this puts her in league with the people who were oh-so-disappointed late last month.
- After becoming the Republican VP candidate she made it quite clear she didn't know what the job of a VP is.
- She can't name a newspaper she reads.
- She didn't know the difference betwen North and South Korea, ("We must stand with our North Korean allies".)
- She couldn't name any Supreme Court cases other than Roe v Wade.
- Lastly, (meaning the last thing I'm going to mention,) as mayor of Wasilla she tried to ban books from the local library, (books like A Clockwork Orange, Brave New World, the Harry Potter series, Tom Sawyer, Huckleberry Finn, Lord of the Flies, Of Mice and Men, One Flew Over the Cuckoo's Nest, Slaughterhouse Five, The Catcher in the Rye, The Grapes of Wrath, The Merchant of Venice and a number of other Shakespeare works, To Kill A Mockingbird and many many more.)

This last one more than anything else speaks to the type of person Palin is - but coupled with things like the creationist thing, the lack of knowledge about the judiciary, the lack of knowlege about geography, the irrational faith, (and yes I very much hold that as a negative,) the lack of anything that would suggest she has the tiniest intellectual streak. Politicians make gaffs, they have brainfarts but Palin is something else entirely.

This is a retard. I say this knowing full well that she'd probably get falsely offended by the word because of her down syndrome son; to which I would respond I would never call Trig Palin a retard. I would call Sarah Palin one.

Good points, shall we now review Obama's "retarded" credentials? point is, every politician, based on your examples, could be considered a "retard". Obama thinks there are 57 states and the Marine Corps is now the Marine "Corpse"  are a few examples. yet, where are all the "retard" comments. I am not hearing you say you would not vote for Obama because of things like these.

But Lowing what your referring to are gaffs. Obama could be laughed at for thinking it was 2008 last month too. Gaffs are common for every politician, every person. But mispronounciation or number confusion during a campaign speech doesn't speak to a fundamental lack of knowledge. The examples I used for Palin aside from maybe the Africa and Korea things don't just show gaffs or brainfarts but this fundamental lack of knowledge - and about basic things. Not only that but she tried to ban books because she thought they'd be offensive when I very much doubt she'd read any of them - aside from maybe Little Red Riding Hood, (which was one of the books she wanted banned.) This is the type of thing that speaks to a person's character, not mispronouncing "corps" or buttoning a jacket wrong, both of which I know I've done before.

lowing wrote:

So does sitting in a church with a known racist preacher, or paling around with known and convicted terrorists and felons, how do those stack up against not knowing which Korea is which in your character judgements?

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

So does sitting in a church with a known racist preacher, or paling around with known and convicted terrorists and felons, how do those stack up against not knowing which Korea is which in your character judgements?

This imbecile could have had her finger on the button, how funny would it have been if she'd nuked the wrong Korea?

Palin is stupider and less educated than Bush - incredible but true.

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

lowing wrote:

So does sitting in a church with a known racist preacher, or paling around with known and convicted terrorists and felons, how do those stack up against not knowing which Korea is which in your character judgements?

http://i.imgur.com/6PpQE.jpg
right out of the playbook.

ummm, that is not a denial of the fact, just so you know... also is does not address the point I made. By the way, if it were "right out of the play book, as if I looked it up, I wouldn't have mis spelled "paling".

lowing wrote:

so I suppose  Obama woulda sent in the corpse,  what is your point? both are highly unlikely

Last edited by Dilbert_X (2011-06-19 06:03:13)

Kmar wrote:

lowing wrote:

Kmar wrote:

http://i.imgur.com/6PpQE.jpg
right out of the playbook.

ummm, that is not a denial of the fact, just so you know... also is does not address the point I made. By the way, if it were "right out of the play book, as if I looked it up, I wouldn't have mis spelled "paling".

I'm sure you didn't look it up. I'm sure the sound of the word is embedded into your head. My point was it's been beaten to death. Obama is a terrorist. We get it.

Ty wrote:

lowing wrote:

Ty wrote:

But Lowing what your referring to are gaffs. Obama could be laughed at for thinking it was 2008 last month too. Gaffs are common for every politician, every person. But mispronounciation or number confusion during a campaign speech doesn't speak to a fundamental lack of knowledge. The examples I used for Palin aside from maybe the Africa and Korea things don't just show gaffs or brainfarts but this fundamental lack of knowledge - and about basic things. Not only that but she tried to ban books because she thought they'd be offensive when I very much doubt she'd read any of them - aside from maybe Little Red Riding Hood, (which was one of the books she wanted banned.) This is the type of thing that speaks to a person's character, not mispronouncing "corps" or buttoning a jacket wrong, both of which I know I've done before.

So does sitting in a church with a known racist preacher, or paling around with known and convicted terrorists and felons, how do those stack up against not knowing which Korea is which in your character judgements?

If you want to equate that Obama once hung around a racist preacher to something like him being a Fred Phelps follower than that's your business, I simply don't agree with that. As to him hanging around known convicts - Hell I've hung around known convicts. I don't like to think that their actions speak to my character but if they do so be it. Anyway I was pretty sure all this "Obama keeps questionable company" was a massive political Red Herring that failed to have any impact or relevance, which is what you're using it as now; an irrelevent Red Herring. We're not talking Obama we're talking Sarah Palin and she is a simpleton, a fucking idiot, a clueless dunce and nothing Obama has ever done or is ever going to do is going to change that.

Anyway it's 1am, I'm going to bed. G'night all.

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Doesn't really matter how Palin compares with Obama, although he beat her in the election so maybe it does

I understand this quite well. Obama, the man who stepped down to the presidency is infallible and when it does appear so, it is easily dismissed as a gaffe or irrelevant or racist to mention it. So lets focus on Palin's wardrobe or how "accidentally right" she was about Paul Revere.

Jaekus wrote:

Is that all you've got? It's quite tedious to read the same things again and again. Points of Palin's stupidity have been presented. How about showing how she is not stupid to counterbalance the argument? Or are all you going to focus on is her dress and Paul Revere?

Dilbert_X wrote:

lowing wrote:

Dilbert_X wrote:

Doesn't really matter how Palin compares with Obama, although he beat her in the election so maybe it does

I understand this quite well. Obama, the man who stepped down to the presidency is infallible and when it does appear so, it is easily dismissed as a gaffe or irrelevant or racist to mention it. So lets focus on Palin's wardrobe or how "accidentally right" she was about Paul Revere.

Where would you draw the line lowing?

If she confused Northern and Southern Ireland?

North and South Korea?

Oliver North and Peter North?

North and South America?

Just how ignorant does someone have to be before you'd consider not voting for them?