Germany will shut down all its nuclear plants

2011-05-30 07:18:22

#26

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5356|London, England

Jaekus wrote:
If you read the article the government has lost ground based on nuclear issues in recent elections:

And it is a humbling U-turn for Merkel, who at the end of 2010 decided to extend the lifetime of Germany's 17 reactors by an average of 12 years, which would have kept them open until the mid-2030s.

That decision was unpopular in Germany even before the earthquake and tsunami in March that severely damaged the Fukushima nuclear facility in Japan, prompting Merkel's review of nuclear policy.

Her zig-zagging on what since the 1970s has been a highly emotive issue in the country has cost her at the ballot box.

Merkel herself has blamed the Fukushima nuclear disaster for recent defeats in state elections.

In the latest, on May 23, the anti-nuclear Greens pushed her conservative party into third place in a vote in the northern state of Bremen, the first time they had scored more votes than the conservatives in a regional or federal election.

I swear that after two world wars, all the non-pussies in Germany were naturally selected out of the population. Germany today is what we're left with.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-30 07:20:44

#27

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5257|foggy bottom

thorium

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-30 07:21:55

#28

Hurricane2k9: Pendulous Sweaty Balls; +1,538|5699|College Park, MD

Deutschland uber lame

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2011-05-30 07:35:55

#29

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6220|Escea

Lots and lots of hamsters.

2011-05-30 07:39:52

#30

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5235|Cleveland, Ohio

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Jewish labor

i lol'd

2011-05-30 07:44:15

#31

13/f/taiwan: Member; +940|5696

i don't think we have any germans on this forum.

2011-05-30 07:44:46

#32

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5235|Cleveland, Ohio

we do/did

2011-05-30 07:49:29

#33

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6672|Canberra, AUS

Schuss is one, can't remember others offhand

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-05-30 08:09:51

#34

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6466

It's hilarious, because coal and gas kill way more people than nuclear

2011-05-30 08:18:31

#35

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6672|Canberra, AUS

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
It's hilarious, because coal and gas kill way more people than nuclear

By nuclear radiation alone, no less.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-05-30 08:18:52

#36

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5235|Cleveland, Ohio

Doctor Strangelove wrote:
It's hilarious, because coal and gas kill way more people than nuclear

not sure if srs

that is true but when there is a nuclear emergency................ill take my chances with coal

2011-05-30 08:26:21

#37

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|5959|Places 'n such

11 Bravo wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
It's hilarious, because coal and gas kill way more people than nuclear
not sure if srs

that is true but when there is a nuclear emergency................ill take my chances with coal

coal plants produce waste 100 times more radioactive than nuclear from what I remember?

e: we're still talking radiation that is not even close to dangerous levels though.

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2011-05-30 08:44:57

#38

Stimey: +786|6118|Ontario | Canada

Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?

2011-05-30 08:45:26

#39

Doctor Strangelove: Real Battlefield Veterinarian.; +1,758|6466

presidentsheep wrote:
11 Bravo wrote:
Doctor Strangelove wrote:
It's hilarious, because coal and gas kill way more people than nuclear
not sure if srs

that is true but when there is a nuclear emergency................ill take my chances with coal
coal plants produce waste 100 times more radioactive than nuclear from what I remember?

e: we're still talking radiation that is not even close to dangerous levels though.

I'm not talking about radiation. Coal plants produce large amount of poisonous gases, and coal mining is incredibly dangerous.

2011-05-30 08:47:57

#40

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|5959|Places 'n such

yup, acid rain, uranium waste, methane gas... there's loads of bad stuff that comes out of coal powered plants.

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2011-05-30 08:49:18

#41

mr.hrundi: Wurstwassereis; +68|6435|Germany

the biggest problem with nuclear power is that no one knows what to do with the nuclear fuel rods once they cant be used in power plants anymore. the half life of the stuff is longer than any reasonable guesses about political frames. it plays in geological timescales in which it still is dangerous.

while the energy is cheap and on the first view less harmful than fossil fuels, we as the current generation leave unimaginable amounts of radioactive stuff for thousands of future generations without having the slightest idea how to make it less dangerous. this is what I think most Germans don't like about nuclear power. At least I do.

Of course burning more fossil fuels can't be the solution to the threat of power shortage. Yet, with 10 or 11 more years to study and develop ways of getting power from renewable sources, I see a good chance of turning off all nuclear plants without any problems.

2011-05-30 08:50:10

#42

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5356|London, England

Stimey wrote:
Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chernobyl_disaster
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fukushima_ … _accidents
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Mile_Island_accident

Because even one accident occurring is pretty devastating. You can't say it will never happen, because it has happened.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-30 08:50:12

#43

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|5471|Ventura, California

Stimey wrote:
Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?

Meh, my guess is they've played the Chernobyl part of CoD4 too many times or they're afraid a tsunami and earthquake will come cripple their plants since the Japanese got pretty screwed.

Isn't Germany pretty free of natural disasters? It's not like they get hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes. or flooding.

Paranoid Nazis

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-05-30 08:51:04

#44

presidentsheep: Back to the Fuhrer; +208|5959|Places 'n such

MOX fuel helps. Other than that, yeah it's hard to store.

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2011-05-30 08:52:17

#45

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5356|London, England

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Stimey wrote:
Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?
Meh, my guess is they've played the Chernobyl part of CoD4 too many times or they're afraid a tsunami and earthquake will come cripple their plants since the Japanese got pretty screwed.

Isn't Germany pretty free of natural disasters? It's not like they get hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes. or flooding.

Paranoid Nazis

If you use the word Nazis, or make further 'jokes' about Jews and Germany I will make it my mission to have you permabanned from this forum. Kindly fuck off back to your toy guns child.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-30 08:54:33

#46

Stimey: +786|6118|Ontario | Canada

There's a little game I like to play on this forum sometimes.
Its called "Don't acknowledge Shifty".

2011-05-30 08:55:42

#47

M.O.A.B: 'Light 'em up!'; +1,220|6220|Escea

Ironically enough, Chernobyl is now a thriving nature reserve. Pigeons live in the sarcophagus where the radiation levels are 1 million times the norm.

2011-05-30 08:57:05

#48

mr.hrundi: Wurstwassereis; +68|6435|Germany

-Sh1fty- wrote:
Stimey wrote:
Why are people so tinfoil hat about nuclear power?
Meh, my guess is they've played the Chernobyl part of CoD4 too many times or they're afraid a tsunami and earthquake will come cripple their plants since the Japanese got pretty screwed.

Isn't Germany pretty free of natural disasters? It's not like they get hurricanes, earthquakes, tsunamis, tornadoes. or flooding.

Paranoid Nazis

As much as I hate to respont to you with facts, cause I know quite well that brains isn't your strongest point, maybe someone else is interested: one of the threats for power plants that has been researced, is plane crashes. these can, in an really unfortunate event, happen by chance (noone though an earthquake that strong could ever hit japan), or they can happen quite intentionally, as should be known since 2001. The outcome is the same.

2011-05-30 08:58:34

#49

Stimey: +786|6118|Ontario | Canada

Back on topic.

http://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclo … d-wide.htm

442 Active reactors online worldwide.
3 "Major" Nuclear disasters (If you classify Fukishima and 3MI as "Major")
That's about 2/3's of a percent of a "Major" meltdown. I'll take those odds.
Also liquid fluoride thorium reactors are pretty great.

2011-05-30 08:59:17

#50

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5356|London, England

Stimey wrote:
Back on topic.

http://www.euronuclear.org/info/encyclo … d-wide.htm

442 Active reactors online worldwide.
3 "Major" Nuclear disasters (If you classify Fukishima and 3MI as "Major")
That's about 2/3's of a percent of a "Major" meltdown. I'll take those odds.
Also liquid fluoride thorium reactors are pretty great.

Would you be ok if they built a nuclear power plant in your town?

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

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