Well that's great for you, honestly is. Whenever I think of suburbia though, I think of the pictures I posted.
there are some newer subdivisions like those in my area but most older ones in the area are nothing like that. their lack of trees is distrubing
Yeah, I find it a total eye sore. Not to mention depressing. It's like the institutionalisation of home ownership.
Last edited by Jaekus (2011-05-16 18:58:58)
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
urban beats suburban anyday
god those suburbs are horrifying
mine at least has some character. the houses don't all look the same
mine at least has some character. the houses don't all look the same
Why does the second to last one read BOO in it?
Looks like the entire state of Florida.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
A lot of the suburbs here are the same way (different colors). They're not that bad, really.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
god those suburbs are horrifying
mine at least has some character. the houses don't all look the same
Of course there's a lot of difference. I'd argue there is more different than similar.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
The ones you posted have character, aren't totally uniform, have trees and parks and are quite pleasing to the eye.
The ones I posted are all from the same cookie cutter, arranged in such a way so they can cram as many houses together. No individuality; you're a number, not a free man!
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.Poseidon wrote:
Looks like the entire state of Florida.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
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Moved into a new place recently, its great - garage with workshop, BBQ area, and about 25 square metres of vege garden space (planter boxes and standard soil patch) out the back. Theres a big garden which is ornamental - native grasses/flaxes and the like - which I could convert to veges if shit got tough, would give me 45-50 sqm total. When summer rolls around I'll be pumping out the tomatoes and chillis! Very tempted to get a greenhouse too.
Could be. Whenever I fly into FLL, all I see is that style of housing.Kmar wrote:
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.Poseidon wrote:
Looks like the entire state of Florida.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
What really gets me about that last picture is the complete lack of trees tbh.
Yes, yes, I know, typical Canberran, more a park/forest than a city etc. gagf, the colours around this place about now are awesome.
Yes, yes, I know, typical Canberran, more a park/forest than a city etc. gagf, the colours around this place about now are awesome.
Last edited by Spark (2011-05-16 23:40:47)
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~ Richard Feynman
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Don't get me wrong.. it exist. But it's more prominent south and east of the state.Poseidon wrote:
Could be. Whenever I fly into FLL, all I see is that style of housing.Kmar wrote:
I think you mean South Florida man. Both my sister and parents live on almost an acre.. in neighborhoods. I'm on about a third, but there is a conservation lot behind my house. Our HOA's here limit the same styles of house/arch in the same neighborhoods for the specific purpose of avoiding a neighborhood of cookie cutter houses.Poseidon wrote:
Looks like the entire state of Florida.
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Here in Austria, pretty much everyone with a house (be it single-family house or a row house in a suburban estate) uses up part of their property to make a garden for growing vegetables.
Furthermore, allotment gardening has a big tradition here, many of them actually founded illegally on empty community spaces, but then later turned into official associations, covered by the respective laws. That way, many of those allotment garden estates are in the middle of otherwise urban areas and housing companies are craving for those as building areas.
Sadly, our backyard is only a mossy piece of lawn, constantly flooded by the rain, because the soil underneath is very clayey and the sun doesn't shine on most of it before noon.
I'd need to scoop off the top 1 meter layer and fill it up with humus to be able to grow anything there. Most likely though, we'll get some raised beds or large, yet moveable troughs and put everything on top of the lawn.
And I want to plant a tree. Cherry or apricot.
The only plant remotely like that are two elderberry bushes, that grew out of our thuja hedge in the last year, courtesy of bird droppings.
They already began to blossom and I think we will be able to harvest the blossoms to make syrup from the nectar for the first time.
Furthermore, allotment gardening has a big tradition here, many of them actually founded illegally on empty community spaces, but then later turned into official associations, covered by the respective laws. That way, many of those allotment garden estates are in the middle of otherwise urban areas and housing companies are craving for those as building areas.
Sadly, our backyard is only a mossy piece of lawn, constantly flooded by the rain, because the soil underneath is very clayey and the sun doesn't shine on most of it before noon.
I'd need to scoop off the top 1 meter layer and fill it up with humus to be able to grow anything there. Most likely though, we'll get some raised beds or large, yet moveable troughs and put everything on top of the lawn.
And I want to plant a tree. Cherry or apricot.
The only plant remotely like that are two elderberry bushes, that grew out of our thuja hedge in the last year, courtesy of bird droppings.
They already began to blossom and I think we will be able to harvest the blossoms to make syrup from the nectar for the first time.
Depends, no variation in style is mindnumbing.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
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Jaekus and Dilbert are arguing architectural aesthetics. They like European style more than American. Look beyond the building style. It's the same thing: people living crowded together on twisty streets. The big difference is that in the US version, you're not in a flat.
Spark: That last shot is from either Las Vegas (or North Vegas) or the Phoenix area. Of course there aren't any trees.
And pay attention folks. All I did was copy/pasta from two previous posts.
Spark: That last shot is from either Las Vegas (or North Vegas) or the Phoenix area. Of course there aren't any trees.
And pay attention folks. All I did was copy/pasta from two previous posts.
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
Not all suburbs in the US look like those pics. The suburb (and most others) I lived in in VA had tons of old-growth trees and parks. Totally depends on location.Jaekus wrote:
It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
Unfortunately, some developers here do have a habit of clearing the land out and planting small trees in the front or back yards once the houses are built, losing any growth that was there before. I guess it's more efficient for them?
“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
― Albert Einstein
Doing the popular thing is not always right. Doing the right thing is not always popular
Oh don't get me wrong, I wasn't suggesting that was all of suburbia in the US, far from it. We have the similar style here in some parts though, it's depressing to drive through. The Gold Coast for example is like that in parts, as are the newer developments in Western Australia. There are places like it in other parts too, those two just come to mind quite easily.FEOS wrote:
Not all suburbs in the US look like those pics. The suburb (and most others) I lived in in VA had tons of old-growth trees and parks. Totally depends on location.Jaekus wrote:
It's not just architectural aesthetics. Looks at the parks and trees and the general vibe of the place. It feels alive. Compare it to the other ones, they just feel sterile and lifeless.
Unfortunately, some developers here do have a habit of clearing the land out and planting small trees in the front or back yards once the houses are built, losing any growth that was there before. I guess it's more efficient for them?
Developers, I think they see any space as a potential dollar, so old growth trees are taking up valuable real estate, and it's easier to chuck in a sapling or bush for the sake of "aesthetics". It's sad to see, but it seems popular.
except most of the buildings from my pictures are 4 story apartment buildings with parks in between and it is only 10mins from the city center. these are the neighbourhoods where everybody wants to live here.FEOS wrote:
So the argument here is about architectural styles?
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4795/5 … a47abo.jpg
http://fubini.swarthmore.edu/~ENVS2/S20 … lorida.jpg
http://img696.imageshack.us/img696/9083 … fa8e7o.jpg
http://voony.files.wordpress.com/2010/09/suburbia.jpg
Because otherwise, there isn't a whole hell of a lot of difference between these pictures...
No, the big difference is the utter waste of space that one story tract housing is. Sure, in that picture everyone has his own little plot, and that may help his self esteem, but it's not like he can actually do anything with it. If he and three of his neighbors lived in a four story house instead they could surround themselves with green space. Instead, they'd rather live on their 1/8 acre and pretend that they actually own it and that it somehow means they've arrived in the world. They don't. And they haven't.FEOS wrote:
Jaekus and Dilbert are arguing architectural aesthetics. They like European style more than American. Look beyond the building style. It's the same thing: people living crowded together on twisty streets. The big difference is that in the US version, you're not in a flat.
Spark: That last shot is from either Las Vegas (or North Vegas) or the Phoenix area. Of course there aren't any trees.
And pay attention folks. All I did was copy/pasta from two previous posts.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
so jay are you just going to rent an apartment all your life or something? what are you personally proposing to do, here?
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what the hell are you talking about?Jay wrote:
pretend that they actually own it and that it somehow means they've arrived in the world. They don't. And they haven't.