French.
Fuck you.
Fuck you.
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I can't think of a context in which "mongrel" would be a used as a positive. "Genetically diverse" has a better sound to it. Then again, I don't know the context of the statement. Anyone have a clip? For all we know someone asked him "what do you say to the people who say you're a mongrel?" and he responded in kind.
Mongrel is sometimes used as a "backhanded" compliment down here though. Then again that's probably part of a cultural thing using insults as compliments.
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
To all you mongrel Americans do you seriously believe that your ancestors were pure breed?
This story is almost a year old now. Of all the news to bring up (like policy), the OP picks this ridiculously lame crap? It's a troll if I ever saw one.
Can we please grow up now?This is the key difference in how Obama talks about race, the fact that he doesn’t regard racial resentment as an unforgivable sin, but rather, as something that often feels like it has legitimate roots. The biggest problem with race relations in America is denial.
Out of all of the points the President makes in this segment, however, all we hear from the media is a Beavis and Butthead-esque “He said ‘mongrel!’”
The remark has sparked varying degrees of outrage among conservatives, who seem most perplexed by the fact that Obama can get away with it, but a hypothetical Republican could not. That, and the relative merits of the words “mutt” and “mongrel.” At least Rush Limbaugh seems to know they’re the same thing, but still manages to be outraged.
This is silly on its face, since not only has President Obama used this self-deprecating imagery before, so have many of the working-class white people I grew up with. It is born of a sense that lacking a pedigree is not only not a negative, but a point of pride.
Just below the surface, though, is the fact that Obama was actually being nice about it. He said “that’s actually true for white America as well, but we just know more about it.”
What he didn’t have to say is that the deficit of pedigree among black people in America is the result of all of that abducting into slavery, raping, lynching, and epidemic incarceration at the hands of a racist criminal justice system. The reason he “gets away with it” is his point of view. It’s the same reason you can “get away with” calling your girlfriend “Sweetie,” but some dude at a bar can’t. And given the way this has overshadowed his larger message, he didn’t, in fact, “get away with it.”
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Non-mongrels are mostly inbred so who cares.
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erm.....derp hence the 3 or 4 nationalities. derp.DrunkFace wrote:
To all you mongrel Americans do you seriously believe that your ancestors were pure breed?
those are ridiculous accusations!Kmar wrote:
This story is almost a year old now. Of all the news to bring up (like policy), the OP picks this ridiculously lame crap? It's a troll if I ever saw one.
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?
my bin Laden thread will go down in BF2s history with all the other greats.11 Bravo wrote:
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?
Why not 10, 15 or more nationalities?11 Bravo wrote:
erm.....derp hence the 3 or 4 nationalities. derp.DrunkFace wrote:
To all you mongrel Americans do you seriously believe that your ancestors were pure breed?
I know of ancestors from England, Ireland, Scotland, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Poland and France and there's probably plenty more. And each of them were probably "mongrels" in some way, shape or form. Saying you're 1/4 German for instance is pretty fucking naive.
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Why not 10, 15 or more nationalities?11 Bravo wrote:
erm.....derp hence the 3 or 4 nationalities. derp.DrunkFace wrote:
To all you mongrel Americans do you seriously believe that your ancestors were pure breed?
I know of ancestors from England, Ireland, Scotland, Denmark, Germany, Belgium, Poland and France and there's probably plenty more. And each of them were probably "mongrels" in some way, shape or form. Saying you're 1/4 German for instance is pretty fucking naive.
Mongrels, melting pot, makes no difference to me. I honestly can't claim a bunch of nationalities though. All I really know is my family immigrated in the early 1900s from Czechoslovakia and Croatia. I should probably find out more about my heritage while my grandparents are still alive.
checkoslivackia wasnt a country until 1918
Tu Stultus Es
If anyone deserves credit for that thread's length and possible longevity it is lowing.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
my bin Laden thread will go down in BF2s history with all the other greats.11 Bravo wrote:
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?
An op that includes more than a link and commentary that amounts to more than do. not. like.11 Bravo wrote:
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?
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I am saddened by the current "controversy" regarding the poets that were invited to the white house.
Probably not the first racists and bigots invited to the White House.Macbeth wrote:
I am saddened by the current "controversy" regarding the poets that were invited to the white house.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
Predictable.
By the O? Sure is.
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
about the same here, the way I see it after 300 years my family is American not wherever my descendants form 300 years ago came from.13rin wrote:
Since 1709.SEREMAKER wrote:
American
Stupid thread is bringing out the Blue Bloods. Next they'll be forming a BF2S Sons of Liberty club.
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
Great Idea Jay!
I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.
May I be the CEO?
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
Maybe because of my lack of ethnic history my view of what it means to be xyz is skewed, but I think the concept of "being American" is kinda "unAmerican" in itself.
I mean by that- I think the ideals which are usually described as "American ideals" (individualism, independence, meritocratic values etc.) are incapable with actually being able to call yourself "American". I think being proud that your ancestors came here on the Mayflower is just as silly as being proud your ancestors defeated the Anglo-Saxon kings.
I could explain it better but I have the feeling I'd be wasting my time.
I mean by that- I think the ideals which are usually described as "American ideals" (individualism, independence, meritocratic values etc.) are incapable with actually being able to call yourself "American". I think being proud that your ancestors came here on the Mayflower is just as silly as being proud your ancestors defeated the Anglo-Saxon kings.
I could explain it better but I have the feeling I'd be wasting my time.
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i created the thread though, it's like giving Obama all the credit for bin laden's capture when it was W who started the GWOTKmar wrote:
If anyone deserves credit for that thread's length and possible longevity it is lowing.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
my bin Laden thread will go down in BF2s history with all the other greats.11 Bravo wrote:
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?An op that includes more than a link and commentary that amounts to more than do. not. like.11 Bravo wrote:
its a hurricane thread.....what do you expect?