National Emergency Alert System Set To Launch In NYC

2011-05-10 07:06:02

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Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5844

A new national alert system is set to begin in New York City that will alert the public to emergencies via cell phones.

Presidential and local emergency messages as well as Amber Alerts would appear on cell phones equipped with special chips and software.

The Federal Communications Commission and the Federal Emergency Management Agency said the system would also warn about terrorist attacks and natural disasters.

Verizon and AT&T, the nation’s largest cell phone carriers, are already on board. Consumers would be able to opt out of all but those presidential messages.

The announcement of the new emergency alert system came Monday in the wake of Osama bin Laden’s death and an uptick in security and safety concerns around New York City.

For now, the system is capable on certain high-end cell phones but starting next year, all cell phones will be required to have the chip that receives alerts.

By the end of the year, the new system will be in place in New York City and Washington and in cities around the country by the end of 2012.

http://newyork.cbslocal.com/2011/05/10/ … ch-in-nyc/
Unnecessary government intrusion into our lives or a necessary move for public safety reasons? Federal Government linked chips mandatory in every cellphone really sound terrible.

2011-05-10 07:14:42

#2

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

why dont they just text every phone registered to the nyc area? israel does that and they do fine.

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2011-05-10 07:15:35

#3

13rin: Member; +977|6738

Don't want.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-10 07:30:46

#4

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Why do they need a chip? Is it like a GPS in an iPhone and they can send texts out in a given radius to those phones, rather than by number?

2011-05-10 07:33:03

#5

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?

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2011-05-10 07:35:03

#6

Cheez: Herman is a warmaphrodite; +1,027|6697|King Of The Islands

Will you have to pay to receive the messages?

My state was founded by Batman. Your opinion is invalid.

2011-05-10 07:47:54

#7

13rin: Member; +977|6738

Uzique wrote:
hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?

Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-10 07:59:28

#8

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

13rin wrote:
Uzique wrote:
hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?
Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.

you do realize they can still track cell phones right?

2011-05-10 08:46:16

#9

13rin: Member; +977|6738

Cybargs wrote:
13rin wrote:
Uzique wrote:
hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?
Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.
you do realize they can still track cell phones right?

Yes. My iphone is pre 4.0 software release so the apple tracking file isn't on my phone. I do realize and recognize the differences between the three, but still. Fucking extra government chip in my phone? fuck that.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-10 08:47:47

#10

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5617|London, England

Why is a chip required? Why not just make an app...

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-10 08:49:02

#11

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5617|London, England

13rin wrote:
Cybargs wrote:
13rin wrote:

Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.
you do realize they can still track cell phones right?
Yes. My iphone is pre 4.0 software release so the apple tracking file isn't on my phone. I do realize and recognize the differences between the three, but still. Fucking extra government chip in my phone? fuck that.

It's got nothing to do with a tracking file. Your position can be triangulated by your relation to cell phone towers in the same way GPS works.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-10 08:51:52

#12

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Yes, but I think he's referring to the tracking file that logs everywhere you go and sends the data back to Apple.

2011-05-10 08:52:34

#13

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5617|London, England

Jaekus wrote:
Yes, but I think he's referring to the tracking file that logs everywhere you go and sends the data back to Apple.

Ahh, Steve Jobs is

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-10 08:52:35

#14

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5518|foggy bottom

13rin wrote:
Uzique wrote:
hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?
Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.

you must be against the USAPATRIOT act

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-10 08:56:23

#15

13rin: Member; +977|6738

eleven bravo wrote:
13rin wrote:
Uzique wrote:
hmm... federal chip in every single phone. you guys call the great britain the land of 1984?
Look like I won't be carrying a cell phone.
you must be against the USAPATRIOT act

Meh'.... Guess I am now. But only if you are for it

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-10 08:58:20

#16

13rin: Member; +977|6738

Jay wrote:
Jaekus wrote:
Yes, but I think he's referring to the tracking file that logs everywhere you go and sends the data back to Apple.
Ahh, Steve Jobs is

Yes & Fuck jobs. My laziness thwarted his attempts... He'll have to get info on me like everyone else does -buy it from google.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-10 09:00:17

#17

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Just updated to iOS 4.3.3
Personally, I honestly don't care if they track where I am, there are millions of iPhone users and my activities aren't illegal. But I still feel it's a breach of privacy.

2011-05-10 09:08:24

#18

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

with so many phones... yeah gl tracking randoms.

thats why you should use a burner if youre doing illegal shit

2011-05-10 09:11:32

#19

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,053|7030|PNW

At first I was like "cool," but then I was like "why do we need extra chips to do this?"

2011-05-10 09:14:34

#20

Jay: Bork! Bork! Bork!; +2,006|5617|London, England

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
At first I was like "cool," but then I was like "why do we need extra chips to do this?"

Because I'm sure there will be GPS involved so we can all be tracked by cops. We're all criminals until proven innocent ya know.

"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat

2011-05-10 09:16:09

#21

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5496|Cleveland, Ohio

lol new york

2011-05-10 09:20:14

#22

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5518|foggy bottom

my gps would work half the time in manhattan

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-10 09:22:56

#23

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|6975

phone gps' are pretty inaccurate...

2011-05-10 09:24:31

#24

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5437|Sydney

Cybargs wrote:
phone gps' are pretty inaccurate...

Google maps says my house is a different number on a different street. All the other houses around me are correct though

2011-05-10 09:32:19

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Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

you have to be super sceptical about this. a federal chip in every single phone? even if it's just used for a claimedly innocuous and beneficial purpose (e.g. disaster alerts) - you have to think about the potential for harm. it's a huge invasion of privacy and individual rights to force every single mobile phone to have a government chip in it. what sort of telecommunications freedom is that? the patriot act has already been mentioned... is it really so improbable that, given an emergency in the future, more legislation/bills like this could be pushed through with haste and little democratic consensus? in that case, you can see these chips having a more malign purpose in the potential (and foreseeable) future.

in principle (not use) this isn't very different from the proposal for identity cards that the uk government tried to push through. that proposal was flattened, thankfully. having anything on your person on a daily basis that is government property, or at least a government interest... very uncomfortable with that thought.

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