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2011-05-08 08:37:26
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
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and the best pension plan around. I only got into this job because my uncle is a Policy Analyst with the Feds. He suggested it as a possible career path, so I took a summer position to test it out. If I do stick with it I'll be doing a Masters of Public Policy and Governance.

Are you planning on doing a masters degree, Uzique?
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2011-05-08 08:41:07
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD
I know a chick doing a masters in public policy, she's hot
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2011-05-08 08:41:18
Finray
Hup! Dos, Tres, Cuatro
+2,629|6054|Catherine Black
Ah, hangover sweats, you cruel mistress. We meet once more.
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2011-05-08 08:42:20
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
yeah, immediately after graduating if i get a scholarship/funding (which is slim in the UK currently), or maybe in a year or two after taking some time out to work and generally grow the fuck up a bit. i'm probably going to be doing an m.phil in criticism and culture or a master's in modernism/postmodernism. i want to work to be able to pay for the fees and living costs myself, though. i see it as a career choice (academia) so i figure i should take the fiscal responsibility.

i haven't really looked into business/public sector work yet... intending more to do writing/journo/teaching-abroad stuff for the next year or two if i have to work. i don't really want to get into a soul-less job too early if i can help it.
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2011-05-08 08:42:24
Cybargs
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Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I know a chick doing a masters in public policy, she's hot
but have you had a conversation more than a minute? exactly hurri.
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2011-05-08 08:43:50
liquidat0r
wtf.
+2,223|6893|UK

Finray wrote:

Ah, hangover sweats, you cruel mistress. We meet once more.
never had this
2011-05-08 08:43:53
Cybargs
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Uzique wrote:

yeah, immediately after graduating if i get a scholarship/funding (which is slim in the UK currently), or maybe in a year or two after taking some time out to work and generally grow the fuck up a bit. i'm probably going to be doing an m.phil in criticism and culture or a master's in modernism/postmodernism. i want to work to be able to pay for the fees and living costs myself, though. i see it as a career choice (academia) so i figure i should take the fiscal responsibility.

i haven't really looked into business/public sector work yet... intending more to do writing/journo/teaching-abroad stuff for the next year or two if i have to work. i don't really want to get into a soul-less job too early if i can help it.
teach in asia. we need more people who actually have a grasp of the english language instead of deadbeat white trash. just dont get caught with drugs in asia though, they might fucking execute you lol (especially korea).
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2011-05-08 08:46:28
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
i know someone that can get me a job in kuala lumpur at one of those posh schools where they're basically all white and westernised, anyway. you have to have a degree to be able to work abroad there (so no white-trash people with zero qualifications, which normally are the ones that go out to 'teach' as an easy job) and it pays something like £27,000/year. and you don't have to pay rent or board. that's a fuckload of money... way better than any graduate-level job in The City (i.e. financial or tech sector). bit of a no brainer so long as you don't mind the leaving home/family and being on the other side of the world in an alien culture for 12 months part... which i'm unsure about. i have lots of friends and elderly relatives to leave behind, not to mention the gf, so i'm a little unsure.
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2011-05-08 08:49:07
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
+702|5809|Toronto

Uzique wrote:

yeah, immediately after graduating if i get a scholarship/funding (which is slim in the UK currently), or maybe in a year or two after taking some time out to work and generally grow the fuck up a bit. i'm probably going to be doing an m.phil in criticism and culture or a master's in modernism/postmodernism. i want to work to be able to pay for the fees and living costs myself, though. i see it as a career choice (academia) so i figure i should take the fiscal responsibility.

i haven't really looked into business/public sector work yet... intending more to do writing/journo/teaching-abroad stuff for the next year or two if i have to work. i don't really want to get into a soul-less job too early if i can help it.
Teaching English abroad would be a prime way to immerse yourself in another culture and pick up a second language, but it pays next to nothing. Writing for a living is also a tough way to try and make money. Sounds like you'll need more than a couple of years to save up the cash for a masters! All worth it if you're wanting the time to mature and figure out exactly what you want out of life. 

I think I'm totally set to sit behind a desk for the rest of my life. It would be nice to do some traveling before committing to a career, but I can always take short vacations to scratch that itch.
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2011-05-08 08:49:49
Cybargs
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Uzique wrote:

i know someone that can get me a job in kuala lumpur at one of those posh schools where they're basically all white and westernised, anyway. you have to have a degree to be able to work abroad there (so no white-trash people with zero qualifications, which normally are the ones that go out to 'teach' as an easy job) and it pays something like £27,000/year. and you don't have to pay rent or board. that's a fuckload of money... way better than any graduate-level job in The City (i.e. financial or tech sector). bit of a no brainer so long as you don't mind the leaving home/family and being on the other side of the world in an alien culture for 12 months part... which i'm unsure about. i have lots of friends and elderly relatives to leave behind, not to mention the gf, so i'm a little unsure.
yeah leaving family and friends is the hard part, but overall its shit easy money and cost of living is pretty cheap too. if your gf is a finalist at least you guys are able to have the "talk" about moving abroad for a while. if its an international school in KL, that's where the money's at and they usually have really good facilities. pro tip: the larger the school, the better, that's usually how international schools are. Small ones are usually the shittiest.
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2011-05-08 08:50:50
Cybargs
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Pochsy wrote:

Uzique wrote:

yeah, immediately after graduating if i get a scholarship/funding (which is slim in the UK currently), or maybe in a year or two after taking some time out to work and generally grow the fuck up a bit. i'm probably going to be doing an m.phil in criticism and culture or a master's in modernism/postmodernism. i want to work to be able to pay for the fees and living costs myself, though. i see it as a career choice (academia) so i figure i should take the fiscal responsibility.

i haven't really looked into business/public sector work yet... intending more to do writing/journo/teaching-abroad stuff for the next year or two if i have to work. i don't really want to get into a soul-less job too early if i can help it.
Teaching English abroad would be a prime way to immerse yourself in another culture and pick up a second language, but it pays next to nothing. Writing for a living is also a tough way to try and make money. Sounds like you'll need more than a couple of years to save up the cash for a masters! All worth it if you're wanting the time to mature and figure out exactly what you want out of life. 

I think I'm totally set to sit behind a desk for the rest of my life. It would be nice to do some traveling before committing to a career, but I can always take short vacations to scratch that itch.
27k Pounds in a place that has dirt cheap cost of living is pretty damn good.
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2011-05-08 08:52:26
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
teach abroad schemes here are pretty fucking lucrative, man. especially considering the graduate job climate at home in the uk (i.e. the worst it has ever been). it's a 12 month vacation away from home with all your bills/overheads paid for, and a chance to learn another language and get some perspective (which makes you way more employable in the future than just having sat as a disposable office clerk for a year, saving up). i don't really know where you get the idea from that teaching abroad pays next-to-nothing... english grads from top-level unis here get offered fuckloads to do it. and i don't expect to make any money out of writing... i'm interested in it cause it keeps me academically active. i'm going to be doing an internship at one of the world's top-regarded music magazines this summer so it's just a chance to network and generally immerse myself in something that's mind-involving.

i'd love to be able to feel satisfied with settling for a career-path right now, but the truth is that i don't. i envy you in a way, because it's me delaying the 'settle down' route for a few more years to be restless and indecisive. but right now all i'm about is improving my mind and educating myself as a person, as opposed to that 401k

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2011-05-08 08:52:56
Pochsy
Artifice of Eternity
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Nobody I know has been offered that much. Then again, most of them go to Japan to teach, which is likely why they save next to nothing.
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2011-05-08 08:54:13
Uzique
dasein.
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Cybargs wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i know someone that can get me a job in kuala lumpur at one of those posh schools where they're basically all white and westernised, anyway. you have to have a degree to be able to work abroad there (so no white-trash people with zero qualifications, which normally are the ones that go out to 'teach' as an easy job) and it pays something like £27,000/year. and you don't have to pay rent or board. that's a fuckload of money... way better than any graduate-level job in The City (i.e. financial or tech sector). bit of a no brainer so long as you don't mind the leaving home/family and being on the other side of the world in an alien culture for 12 months part... which i'm unsure about. i have lots of friends and elderly relatives to leave behind, not to mention the gf, so i'm a little unsure.
yeah leaving family and friends is the hard part, but overall its shit easy money and cost of living is pretty cheap too. if your gf is a finalist at least you guys are able to have the "talk" about moving abroad for a while. if its an international school in KL, that's where the money's at and they usually have really good facilities. pro tip: the larger the school, the better, that's usually how international schools are. Small ones are usually the shittiest.
my gf is a 2nd year, so she's staying in london for another year (possibly longer as her parents are pushing her to do an all-expenses-paid Master's too; i'm not asking my rents for that luxury). we'll figure it out though. she wants to move to france or denmark with me for a few years to learn another euro-language and generally have fun. another option... young dreams
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2011-05-08 08:55:32
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5108|Amsterdam
I'd get 1.400 (gross) a month for the first 6 months as a Head police officer (similar to sergeant i guess).

Fucking low, especially when you consider i was studying law and wanted to become a lawyer.
2011-05-08 08:57:54
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5108|Amsterdam
24 to 36 months is when it maxes out at a whopping 1776 (gross)
2011-05-08 08:58:49
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
all those professions over here involve selling your soul and being a bitch for your 20's. law, finance, advertising, etc... all the 'lucrative' jobs. the problem is that every graduate regards them as lucrative, so every graduate applies or tries to go down that route. the people in the industry know that there's about 10 applicants for every job position so they take massive advantage. you're expected to do expensive and costly internships with no wages for 3-6 months at a time, being someone's bitch and gaining no practical work experience. then you're not even offered a job and they just swap you out and rotate with the next eager, willing and naive intern. i thought i wanted to go down the 'professional' route about 3-4 years ago but, really, you realize it's a bit of an oversold myth and the only people really gaining from it as the ones already at the top, taking advantage of all the new blood.

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2011-05-08 09:00:00
Hurricane2k9
Pendulous Sweaty Balls
+1,538|5968|College Park, MD

Cybargs wrote:

Hurricane2k9 wrote:

I know a chick doing a masters in public policy, she's hot
but have you had a conversation more than a minute? exactly hurri.
yes I have you prick
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2011-05-08 09:01:06
Cybargs
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Uzique wrote:

Cybargs wrote:

Uzique wrote:

i know someone that can get me a job in kuala lumpur at one of those posh schools where they're basically all white and westernised, anyway. you have to have a degree to be able to work abroad there (so no white-trash people with zero qualifications, which normally are the ones that go out to 'teach' as an easy job) and it pays something like £27,000/year. and you don't have to pay rent or board. that's a fuckload of money... way better than any graduate-level job in The City (i.e. financial or tech sector). bit of a no brainer so long as you don't mind the leaving home/family and being on the other side of the world in an alien culture for 12 months part... which i'm unsure about. i have lots of friends and elderly relatives to leave behind, not to mention the gf, so i'm a little unsure.
yeah leaving family and friends is the hard part, but overall its shit easy money and cost of living is pretty cheap too. if your gf is a finalist at least you guys are able to have the "talk" about moving abroad for a while. if its an international school in KL, that's where the money's at and they usually have really good facilities. pro tip: the larger the school, the better, that's usually how international schools are. Small ones are usually the shittiest.
my gf is a 2nd year, so she's staying in london for another year (possibly longer as her parents are pushing her to do an all-expenses-paid Master's too; i'm not asking my rents for that luxury). we'll figure it out though. she wants to move to france or denmark with me for a few years to learn another euro-language and generally have fun. another option... young dreams
the things we do for pussy that sticks around but the euro thing sounds good but costy, but its not like you cant wait out for her to grad and she might want move out after she grads. Is uni in UK 3 years or 4?

Poschy is right about the japan thing though, that place has a pretty high cost of living so you're not looking to make much there anyway. if you love local asian foods you should be fine, but if you want to live like a westerner and eat healthy and shit, youre gonna hurt your wallet a bit. but malaysian food is fucking amazing anyway so you should be loving life but you will be kinda homesick from all the food you usually eat. protip: dont go to expat bars too much, thats where a lot of expats burn their money but it is a nice place to meet a few people.
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2011-05-08 09:08:15
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
teaching abroad is a choice between 'making money' or 'having a good time'. living in somewhere like japan obviously has loads of benefits that you wouldnt' get if you were teaching at a school in rural south korea. but you save a shitload more money in korea. it just depends on what you want from the experience, i guess. i'm not all that fussed about going all weeaboo and wanting to live in tokyo and getting all super-azn about shit. i just want to make money and see something that isn't england for a while. same with europe. a bachelor's degree in the UK takes 3 years so it's pretty short in the long-run. as for living in europe (especially denmark) - my gf has family there and her parents have already bought her a property so she's on the ladder. as soon as she graduates she can sell her house and just buy a new one wherever she wants, up to like a £250k budget afaik.

i know a guy at royal holloway from canada doing a master's degree in politics and he saved his money for his MSc by teaching in korea. he has loads of nuts stories and did save a shitload of cash. he also has lots of good things to say about the super cheap fashion and stuff that you can buy over there for 1/20th of the price of the exact same shit that then arrives on UK high-streets.
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2011-05-08 09:08:47
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5108|Amsterdam

Uzique wrote:

all those professions over here involve selling your soul and being a bitch for your 20's. law, finance, advertising, etc... all the 'lucrative' jobs. the problem is that every graduate regards them as lucrative, so every graduate applies or tries to go down that route. the people in the industry know that there's about 10 applicants for every job position so they take massive advantage. you're expected to do expensive and costly internships with no wages for 3-6 months at a time, being someone's bitch and gaining no practical work experience. then you're not even offered a job and they just swap you out and rotate with the next eager, willing and naive intern. i thought i wanted to go down the 'professional' route about 3-4 years ago but, really, you realize it's a bit of an oversold myth and the only people really gaining from it as the ones already at the top, taking advantage of all the new blood.
Its a standard procedure.
Use those new kids taht are eager to climb the ladder and let them do the shitty work for as long as you legally can.
Once theyre up the the career ladder, they'll do the same.

Abusing freshly graduated kids or students on an internship is very common.
Why? because they take it like a bitch, because they have to.
2011-05-08 09:09:25
DesertFox-
The very model of a modern major general
+796|6951|United States of America
Well, I'm back at home on the computer we bought in 2003 and I found my old music folder. First impressions - I seriously listened to really shitty stuff back then (though I didn't really get into music until about senior year of high school anyway)

In b4 my music still sucks
2011-05-08 09:10:34
Kampframmer
Esq.
+313|5108|Amsterdam
i tried submitting my résumé, but it keeps giving an error saying i cant submit to:, from:, cc:, bcc:, http:, ftp: or html and web adresses.
I use Word 2007 which saved it as .docx, and i also saved it as a word 97-03 file (.doc).
Both got an error.
2011-05-08 09:10:49
Uzique
dasein.
+2,865|6737
the problem is that the internship industry is now so saturated and so hyper-developed that the kids never 'get on the ladder'. most internship companies take on interns knowing they won't hire them (because there's not any vacancies); they're just being abused as free labour. interns obviously don't have unions or anything like that, either, so it's pretty much wholesale taking advantage. very unethical but nobody gives a shit because every single company does it now. i don't want to spend 3 years of my life after graduation living on sofas so i can afford to stay in london (very expensive) and work for some asshole for free.
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2011-05-08 09:11:22
11 Bravo
Banned
+965|5503|Cleveland, Ohio
you can teach them how to answer phones for direct tv and dell

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