Obama Press Conference: Bin Laden Is Dead

2011-05-07 18:11:44

#1576

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|7047|so randum

this recent discourse is fucking retarded idd.

while we're conversing, completing my course at m.uni followed with a post grad in physical geog (aim RAF) good/bad?

i finished belfast in 2nd yr on a 1:1 with the provision i could return in my own time, but m.uni offered a condensed course to rush me to post-grad followed by a funded course (to cork, no less)

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2011-05-07 18:14:33

#1577

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|7017

why not? funded postgrad is a pot of gold at the end of a quickly disappearing rainbow. much better if it has a job/career prospect, too.

would you want to go from manchester to cork, though? bit of a rankings dive

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2011-05-07 18:16:19

#1578

FatherTed: xD; +3,936|7047|so randum

no it's manchester field trip encamped in cork, not an irish uni

i think i'll take the offer and run tbh

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2011-05-07 21:46:42

#1579

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

lowing wrote:
Well as I said, even in our darkest hour, blowing up women and children was not standard practice...

Its is for Irish Catholics, using funds raised in America.

https://victimsurvivor.com/sec08/images/stories/bomb/ENNISKILLEN_BOMB_1.jpg

https://www.bbc.co.uk/manchester/content/images/2006/06/15/bomb_site_370x290.jpg

https://i.telegraph.co.uk/multimedia/archive/00951/omagh-bomb-460b_951239c.jpg

But yeah, its just muslims who bomb women and children.

Fuck Israel

2011-05-07 21:49:29

#1580

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,752|7284|Cinncinatti

yea but the past doesnt count

2011-05-07 21:58:52

#1581

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5725|Sydney

lowing wrote:
Well as I said, even in our darkest hour, blowing up women and children was not standard practice...

The My Lai Massacre (Vietnamese: thảm sát Mỹ Lai [mǐˀ lɐːj]; English pronunciation: /ˌmiːˈlaɪ/ ( listen), also /ˌmiːˈleɪ, ˌmaɪˈlaɪ/,[1] Vietnamese: [mǐˀlaːj]) was the mass murder of 347–504 unarmed citizens in South Vietnam on March 16, 1968, conducted by a unit of the United States Army. All of the victims were civilians and most were women, children (including babies), and elderly people. Many of the victims were raped, beaten, tortured, and some of the bodies were found mutilated.[2]
The massacre took place in the hamlets of Mỹ Lai and My Khe of Sơn Mỹ village during the Vietnam War.[3][4] While 26 US soldiers were initially charged with criminal offenses for their actions at My Lai, only William Calley was convicted of killing 22 villagers. Originally given a life sentence, he served three and a half years under house arrest.
When the incident became public knowledge in 1969, it prompted widespread outrage around the world. The massacre also increased domestic opposition to the US involvement in the Vietnam War. Three US servicemen who made an effort to halt the massacre and protect the wounded were later denounced by US Congressmen. They received hate mail, death threats and found mutilated animals on their doorsteps.[5] It would take 30 years before they were honored for their efforts.[6]
The massacre is also known as the 'Sơn Mỹ Massacre' (Vietnamese: thảm sát Sơn Mỹ) or sometimes as the 'Song My Massacre.'[7] The US military codeword for the hamlet was Pinkville.[8]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/My_Lai_Massacre

2011-05-07 21:59:04

#1582

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

RTHKI wrote:
yea but the past doesnt count

Except if it muslims, my bad, sorry.

Fuck Israel

2011-05-07 21:59:45

#1583

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

FatherTed wrote:
see this shit cuts straight to the bone - my mother and father, and thus myself might not be alive were it not for the ineptitude of irish bombers. yet you single out islam as 'the issue' when this sort of behaviour is commonplace geographically and historically?

disgusting tbh

Fuck Israel

2011-05-07 22:15:18

#1584

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7263

Zionists were first to use modern terrorism tactics.

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2011-05-07 22:19:43

#1585

eleven bravo: Member; +1,399|5806|foggy bottom

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

Tu Stultus Es

2011-05-07 23:26:33

#1586

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

eleven bravo wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gunpowder_Plot

Bloody Catholics

Also http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Plagues_of_Egypt

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Fuck Israel

2011-05-07 23:29:08

#1587

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,092|7319|PNW

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_babel

2011-05-07 23:30:07

#1588

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

unnamednewbie13 wrote:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tower_of_babel

How is that terrorism?

Fuck Israel

2011-05-07 23:39:28

#1589

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,092|7319|PNW

Plagues of Egypt vs the sundering of a united humankind, resulting in cultural divide that would costs us in lives and happiness for centuries just because you're a bit irritated at our gall in building a tower to 'heaven'...

Give me the plagues.

2011-05-07 23:40:21

#1590

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|7044

you were made a moderator, what else do you want?

2011-05-07 23:41:34

#1591

unnamednewbie13: Moderator; +2,092|7319|PNW

Away with ye, foul heathen!

2011-05-08 00:55:17

#1592

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6546|...

If we look at Afghanistan and Iraq today the western forces don't target civilians, at all. Yes, collateral damage happens and I know that whether or not they were targetted doesn't make a difference for the families of the victims. But; they are not killed intentionally.

You can cite examples from history but the point is that we have learnt from that. We use more sophisticated equipment and handle operations with way more care.

But yes I recognise the point is that the behavior isn't exclusive to Muslims.

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inane little opines

2011-05-08 01:16:25

#1593

Jaekus: I'm the matchstick that you'll never lose; +957|5725|Sydney

Shocking wrote:
If we look at Afghanistan and Iraq today the western forces don't target civilians, at all. Yes, collateral damage happens and I know that whether or not they were targetted doesn't make a difference for the families of the victims. But; they are not killed intentionally.

You can cite examples from history but the point is that we have learnt from that. We use more sophisticated equipment and handle operations with way more care.

But yes I recognise the point is that the behavior isn't exclusive to Muslims.

It should also be pointed out (as is obvious, but it seems not to be so for some) that suicide bombers aren't stanard Muslim practice either, they're extremists, much like Timothy McVeigh was. There just seems to be more of them in action over there.

2011-05-08 04:42:30

#1594

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|7017

Shocking wrote:
If we look at Afghanistan and Iraq today the western forces don't target civilians, at all. Yes, collateral damage happens and I know that whether or not they were targetted doesn't make a difference for the families of the victims. But; they are not killed intentionally.

You can cite examples from history but the point is that we have learnt from that. We use more sophisticated equipment and handle operations with way more care.

But yes I recognise the point is that the behavior isn't exclusive to Muslims.

no we haven't learnt from that. how have we learnt from it? you're delusional if you think europe and america have suddenly sprung from the traps of barbarity in 10 years. what is 10 years? irish terrorists are threatening attacks again in our news only last week. we've learnt from it? you guys were propping up horrible dictators in the middle-east until about 2 fucking months ago. you've learnt from it?

honestly the shit you talk is pure fucking delusion

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2011-05-08 05:49:01

#1595

Dilbert_X: The X stands for; +1,836|6653|eXtreme to the maX

Shocking wrote:
You can cite examples from history but the point is that we have learnt from that. We use more sophisticated equipment and handle operations with way more care.

Bottom line is we hire other people to do the dirty work, were the Northern Alliance careful about not hitting civilians? When the mujahedeen were working for us did they follow the Geneva convention?
How about when we were shipping detainees to Egypt to be tortured, is that 'more care'?

And we haven't stopped carpet bombing because of concern for civilians, precision bombing is simply cheaper and more effective.

Fuck Israel

2011-05-08 06:08:15

#1596

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|7017

shocking falls for the moronic worldview that the west is somehow inherently more 'civilized' and 'advanced' than other inferior cultures, who are of course utterly barbaric and deplorable in comparison to our high-minded, lofty and noble ideals.

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2011-05-08 08:03:44

#1597

-Sh1fty-: plundering yee booty; +510|6021|Ventura, California

So, why didn't the U.S. keep it secret that they found the biggest treasure trove of information on Osama's HDDs? They're sending a message out to everybody who might be linked to him to lay low for a while.

Would be funny if the only thing on those harddrives was porn.

And above your tomb, the stars will belong to us.

2011-05-08 08:14:56

#1598

Cybargs: Moderated; +2,285|7263

-Sh1fty- wrote:
So, why didn't the U.S. keep it secret that they found the biggest treasure trove of information on Osama's HDDs? They're sending a message out to everybody who might be linked to him to lay low for a while.

Would be funny if the only thing on those harddrives was porn.

sooner or later gods gonna cut you down.

2011-05-08 08:54:41

#1599

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6546|...

Uzique wrote:
shocking falls for the moronic worldview that the west is somehow inherently more 'civilized' and 'advanced' than other inferior cultures, who are of course utterly barbaric and deplorable in comparison to our high-minded, lofty and noble ideals.

That's bullshit

I was comparing the Afghanistan/Iraq situation to the last major war which we were personally involved in; Vietnam.

Vietnam was fucked up. Afgh/Iraq isnt nearly as bad, in terms of how operations have been conducted etc - there's no way you can deny that.

Uzique wrote:
no we haven't learnt from that. how have we learnt from it? you're delusional if you think europe and america have suddenly sprung from the traps of barbarity in 10 years. what is 10 years? irish terrorists are threatening attacks again in our news only last week. we've learnt from it? you guys were propping up horrible dictators in the middle-east until about 2 fucking months ago. you've learnt from it?

honestly the shit you talk is pure fucking delusion

As a collective; i.e. military action. You can't account for groups like the IRA, that sort of thing will always be around.

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2011-05-08 09:00:55

#1600

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6546|...

Dilbert_X wrote:
Shocking wrote:
You can cite examples from history but the point is that we have learnt from that. We use more sophisticated equipment and handle operations with way more care.
Bottom line is we hire other people to do the dirty work, were the Northern Alliance careful about not hitting civilians? When the mujahedeen were working for us did they follow the Geneva convention?
How about when we were shipping detainees to Egypt to be tortured, is that 'more care'?

And we haven't stopped carpet bombing because of concern for civilians, precision bombing is simply cheaper and more effective.

Oh come on, there is loads more emphasis on avoiding civillian casualties than there ever was before. It's ingrained in military doctrine, especially now because there are cameras following your every move in war.

And you have to put the mujahedeen situation in historical context; the cold war. In fighting the USSR almost everything was fair game, but nobody could at that time have foreseen this would've been the consequence.

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