Human shield more, Osamas.SEREMAKER wrote:
he's black, he wouldn't have captured a giant chunk of the black vote otherwise. The previous mayor looked a little more black, but he was very much a buppie and an Uncle Tom (to the homies, at least):ghettoperson wrote:
Woah what, I just looked him up. He's black? I don't really see it.Hurricane2k9 wrote:
DC's black mayor:eleven bravo wrote:
I think Im darker than the president.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/c … ntgray.jpg
i've seen Indians with darker skin
Also, that is the worst haircut I've ever seen.
shame he lost
neither of them are black
racist
That's what she saidHurricane2k9 wrote:
racist
The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.
The German Shepard is one of the best all around dogs in military/police situations. For example, a Bloodhound is absolutely better than a German Shepard when it comes to tracking. It's Biological. However, Bloodhounds are too passive. They have to spend a lot of time training bloodhounds to get away once they do find criminals, for their safety. Whereas a German Shepard is an average dog when it comes to tracking, but can also fuck shit up if commanded to. However, a good trainer with a good dog can train virtually any dog to behave a certain way.Shocking wrote:
Always german shepherds. I wonder why though, I know they're naturally better at obedience training than 90% of the other breeds but that shouldn't matter that much if you pay a lot of attention to the dog. You could train any dog to be as obedient as a shepherd.
Their stamina perhaps?
My ex was a K9 unit trainer.
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wow fucking deja vu. didnt you post this before?Kmar wrote:
The German Shepard is one of the best all around dogs in military/police situations. For example, a Bloodhound is absolutely better than a German Shepard when it comes to tracking. It's Biological. However, Bloodhounds are too passive. They have to spend a lot of time training bloodhounds to get away once they do find criminals, for their safety. Whereas a German Shepard is an average dog when it comes to tracking, but can also fuck shit up if commanded to. However, a good trainer with a good dog can train virtually any dog to behave a certain way.Shocking wrote:
Always german shepherds. I wonder why though, I know they're naturally better at obedience training than 90% of the other breeds but that shouldn't matter that much if you pay a lot of attention to the dog. You could train any dog to be as obedient as a shepherd.
Their stamina perhaps?
My ex was a K9 unit trainer.
Don't think so. If I did it was some time ago.
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http://www.space.com/11605-secret-helic … laden.html
New satellite photos of Osama bin Laden's compound in Pakistan, where he was killed May 1 in a military raid, offer a revealing glimpse of the operation's aftermath, including roadblocks leading to the complex and the disabled helicopter thought to be part of a top secret U.S. defense project.
The images, released by the commercial satellite and aerial imagery provider GeoEye, zero in on the bin Laden compound in Abbottabad, Pakistan. The photos show no apparent structural damage to the buildings, but the remains of one U.S. Navy SEAL transport helicopter can be seen.
The helicopter has been the subject of intense scrutiny in recent days after photos of its tail-end were circulated online following the 40-minute night raid. Some experts have speculated that the vehicle may be a highly modified helicopter that is part of one of the military's secret "black stealth projects." [Satellite photo location of the Navy SEAL helicopter]
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Ehh would have been better to bring him to justice.
How is him being dead not just?
The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
~ Richard Feynman
~ Richard Feynman
unless someone had you tied up and pried your eyelids open and forced you to look, the choice would be completely up to you, as is celebrating or not.Uzique wrote:
i understand your relief/joy and all but it's pretty fucking ridiculous to not allow anyone else a point-of-view and opinion.Poseidon wrote:
This is great:
http://www.buzzfeed.com/mjs538/20-pictu … -bin-laden
http://s-ak.buzzfed.com/static/enhanced … 345-14.jpg
u sad bro?
there are other people in this world with other ideologies and outlooks to your own that are entitled to not view the death of a person as a celebration.
WHat you are wanting is the reverse of what you just said, because of YOUR ideologies, you insist that NO ONE be able to see the pictures. Kinda smug considering, "it's pretty fucking ridiculous to not allow anyone else a point-of-view and opinion.
there are other people in this world with other ideologies and outlooks to your own".....
I'm genuinely confused. Where did you get "you insist that NO ONE be able to see the pictures. Kinda smug considering," lowing?
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mine is a responsible human response - how is it informed by ideology at all? i don't give a fuck about the west/east, christian/muslim, terrorism bollocks. i don't care. i just don't think a person being killed is cue for a street party. he was hardly a dictator oppressing millions of people. 99% of the people cheering in the streets were completely unaffected by bin laden.
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It looked like most of the people who were actually motivated to take to the streets were college kids. People who look for any excuse to have a party.Uzique wrote:
99% of the people cheering in the streets were completely unaffected by bin laden.
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Uzi's attitude is, it is wrong and barbaric to celebrate or see the the pictures of a dead bin laden, as if, speaking from his perch. By him emulating that attitude, I am saying it is somewhat hypocritical to besmirch another that does want to see them. If you don't want to see them don't look.Kmar wrote:
I'm genuinely confused. Where did you get "you insist that NO ONE be able to see the pictures. Kinda smug considering," lowing?
He says the world is full of different opinions, yet he calls people stupid or wants to "take up a collection and send them back to kindergarten" because of opinions that differ from his own. Hope that clears it up for you. Not exactly in tune with someone who claims to recognize different view points.
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Well lets see, why not just say 100% of the people cheering in the streets were not affected by Bin laden? as it appears by your opinion, the only way to be affected by bin laden is to have one of the WTC's fall on your head.Uzique wrote:
mine is a responsible human response - how is it informed by ideology at all? i don't give a fuck about the west/east, christian/muslim, terrorism bollocks. i don't care. i just don't think a person being killed is cue for a street party. he was hardly a dictator oppressing millions of people. 99% of the people cheering in the streets were completely unaffected by bin laden.
so i'm wrong because i don't have time for moral and ideological bigotry from either muslims or christians? ok then.
also stop trying to use big words it makes me feel funny and doesn't read well
also stop trying to use big words it makes me feel funny and doesn't read well
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From the reading I've done in this thread, Uzique's posts easily stand out as making the most sense by and large.
Just saying.
Just saying.
no I am saying you are wrong because you only recognize or respect other's opinions if they agree with yours.Uzique wrote:
so i'm wrong because i don't have time for moral and ideological bigotry from either muslims or christians? ok then.
also stop trying to use big words it makes me feel funny and doesn't read well
As for the insult, I will just chalk it up to your level of debating prowess.
This is one of the more ironic things I've read on here.lowing wrote:
no I am saying you are wrong because you only recognize or respect other's opinions if they agree with yours.Uzique wrote:
so i'm wrong because i don't have time for moral and ideological bigotry from either muslims or christians? ok then.
also stop trying to use big words it makes me feel funny and doesn't read well
Oh, well in that case obviously something like this means different things to different people. However, there is an impulse people have to get caught up in the moment.. whether the news actually had any relation to their lives or not.lowing wrote:
Uzi's attitude is, it is wrong and barbaric to celebrate or see the the pictures of a dead bin laden, as if, speaking from his perch. By him emulating that attitude, I am saying it is somewhat hypocritical to besmirch another that does want to see them. If you don't want to see them don't look.Kmar wrote:
I'm genuinely confused. Where did you get "you insist that NO ONE be able to see the pictures. Kinda smug considering," lowing?
He says the world is full of different opinions, yet he calls people stupid or wantS to "take up a collection and send them back to kindergarten" because of opinions that differ from his on. Hope that clears it up for you.
Here's an example. Everytime we get wind that Castro may be dead they throw all kinds of parties in Miami. I asked some of my cuban friends once what they thought about that. They said it's just bullshit. Most of the people who are in Miami that are Cuban are fourth generation or more. Neither they nor their family have never been to Cuba, let alone had to live under Castro.
I have some friends that have moved here from Cuba (Cuban Born). One of my friends had to get out of Cuba when he was 12 basically because his Dad spoke out about some things while he was in the military. He was blacklisted so to speak, and truly felt like his life was in danger. So he had to drop everything he had ever worked for in his life and get out. To me it's people like this that should be celebrating the death of an oppressive dictator. Not people who couldn't name three cities in Cuba.
When I see people getting overly emotional over things they have no business getting emotional over it's sort of mocking the people who are truly attached to the situation. Personally I try not to judge people on things like this though. I mean, you just never know. But like uzi, I have a hard time believing so many people were so impacted by the death of OBL that they felt they had to throw mega parties. That isn't to say you should necessarily feel shameful for being happy that OBL was killed. God no. But that level of happiness should be relative.
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Shouldn't be.Jaekus wrote:
This is one of the more ironic things I've read on here.lowing wrote:
no I am saying you are wrong because you only recognize or respect other's opinions if they agree with yours.Uzique wrote:
so i'm wrong because i don't have time for moral and ideological bigotry from either muslims or christians? ok then.
also stop trying to use big words it makes me feel funny and doesn't read well
I have never said anyone was stupid because I disagreed with them Jaekus. I have never trashed someone else for a different opinion and am one of the few who can claim that. I try to be respectful and calm even in the face of barrages of insults and personal attacks. So no, there is no irony in my statement.
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9/11 was 10 years ago, not 4 generations ago. You can be impacted by OBL and his cronies by something more than a brick falling on your head. Our country has suffered economic turmoil over this, people have lost jobs over this. Our country has lost a sense of security and stability over this. We have been after this bastard for a decade, and have finally got him, it is completely understandable the reaction seen by this event.Kmar wrote:
Oh, well in that case obviously something like this means different things to different people. However, there is an impulse people have to get caught up in the moment.. whether the news actually had any relation to their lives or not.lowing wrote:
Uzi's attitude is, it is wrong and barbaric to celebrate or see the the pictures of a dead bin laden, as if, speaking from his perch. By him emulating that attitude, I am saying it is somewhat hypocritical to besmirch another that does want to see them. If you don't want to see them don't look.Kmar wrote:
I'm genuinely confused. Where did you get "you insist that NO ONE be able to see the pictures. Kinda smug considering," lowing?
He says the world is full of different opinions, yet he calls people stupid or wantS to "take up a collection and send them back to kindergarten" because of opinions that differ from his on. Hope that clears it up for you.
Here's an example. Everytime we get wind that Castro may be dead they throw all kinds of parties in Miami. I asked some of my cuban friends once what they thought about that. They said it's just bullshit. Most of the people who are in Miami that are Cuban are fourth generation or more. Neither they nor their family have never been to Cuba, let alone had to live under Castro.
I have some friends that have moved here from Cuba (Cuban Born). One of my friends had to get out of Cuba when he was 12 basically because his Dad spoke out about some things while he was in the military. He was blacklisted so to speak, and truly felt like his life was in danger. So he had to drop everything he had ever worked for in his life and get out. To me it's people like this that should be celebrating the death of an oppressive dictator. Not people who couldn't name three cities in Cuba.
When I see people getting overly emotional over things they have no business getting emotional over it's sort of mocking the people who are truly attached to the situation. Personally I try not to judge people on things like this though. I mean, you just never know. But like uzi, I have a hard time believing so many people were so impacted by the death of OBL that they felt they had to throw mega parties. That isn't to say you should necessarily feel shameful for being happy that OBL was killed. God no. But that level of happiness should be relative.
The point is that they were separated from the situation. Personally I haven't thought about that bearded pole smoke in very very long time. It certainly didn't dominate my daily thoughts, like perhaps it does with those who have lost a friend or family member in the war or the attacks. The economic turmoil we endure now has very little to do with that man. It's a lending crisis at it's core. The idea that OBL has had this economy stuck in the mud and that it's not a result of our financial policies is ridiculous. As a fan of personal responsibility you should be able to see right through that and recognize it for what it is.. a scapegoat. That loss of a sense of security is also exaggerated. If one looks at the situation logically it's VERY easy to regain a sense of security. Then perhaps they won't be subject to kneejerk emotional whims that allow our politicians to manipulate policy. That's a far greater threat to our freedoms than Osama Bin Laden.lowing wrote:
9/11 was 10 years ago, not 4 generations ago. You can be impacted by OBL and his cronies by something more than a brick falling on your head. Our country has suffered economic turmoil over this, people have lost jobs over this. Our country has lost a sense of security and stability over this. We have been after this bastard for a decade, and have finally got him, it is completely understandable the reaction seen by this event.Kmar wrote:
Oh, well in that case obviously something like this means different things to different people. However, there is an impulse people have to get caught up in the moment.. whether the news actually had any relation to their lives or not.lowing wrote:
Uzi's attitude is, it is wrong and barbaric to celebrate or see the the pictures of a dead bin laden, as if, speaking from his perch. By him emulating that attitude, I am saying it is somewhat hypocritical to besmirch another that does want to see them. If you don't want to see them don't look.
He says the world is full of different opinions, yet he calls people stupid or wantS to "take up a collection and send them back to kindergarten" because of opinions that differ from his on. Hope that clears it up for you.
Here's an example. Everytime we get wind that Castro may be dead they throw all kinds of parties in Miami. I asked some of my cuban friends once what they thought about that. They said it's just bullshit. Most of the people who are in Miami that are Cuban are fourth generation or more. Neither they nor their family have never been to Cuba, let alone had to live under Castro.
I have some friends that have moved here from Cuba (Cuban Born). One of my friends had to get out of Cuba when he was 12 basically because his Dad spoke out about some things while he was in the military. He was blacklisted so to speak, and truly felt like his life was in danger. So he had to drop everything he had ever worked for in his life and get out. To me it's people like this that should be celebrating the death of an oppressive dictator. Not people who couldn't name three cities in Cuba.
When I see people getting overly emotional over things they have no business getting emotional over it's sort of mocking the people who are truly attached to the situation. Personally I try not to judge people on things like this though. I mean, you just never know. But like uzi, I have a hard time believing so many people were so impacted by the death of OBL that they felt they had to throw mega parties. That isn't to say you should necessarily feel shameful for being happy that OBL was killed. God no. But that level of happiness should be relative.
Yea we got him. That's good. Am I calling in to work or skipping school? No. I'll be much more happier when, if ever, our soldiers come home. I do have connections to some of them http://is.gd/RsunhP .
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