India and Pakistan

2011-05-06 07:13:37

#1

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6933|Canberra, AUS

watch that space, imo. there has always a lot of bitterness and antipathy between the two, but especially after mumbai.

now a lot of indians are becoming increasingly vocal about saying "well, shit, america just showed how it's done - why don't we pull something like that?" and that could get very nasty indeed. remember, pakistan doesn't have a real government, it's basically run by the military, and they still mostly fear india far more than terrorists.

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-05-06 07:46:01

#2

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5844

Was there supposed to be more to this post? Seems more like a random thought than an OP.

Anyway, I don't think much will happen between those two besides bitching at each other. They are both nuclear and I don't think the leadership of India wants to throw away all of their economic progress just to shit over Pakistan and I doubt the leadership of Pakistan is suicidal. I could be wrong and am just looking at things through a rational western lenses that doesn't see the whole cultural picture.

Re: that whole region- I remember reading a story a few months back about how all of SE asia was seriously upping their military spending in response to China getting stronger. And with the current Thai-Cambodia fighting it looks like that area may be a problem for the rising China and India. The world's next powder keg maybe.

2011-05-06 07:54:36

#3

Spark: liquid fluoride thorium reactor; +874|6933|Canberra, AUS

not saying war, but saying india trying to pull off some weird shit wrt spec ops - remember, they're far more paranoid about pakistani terrorists (and pakistan in general) then we will ever be. A feeling which is reciprocated across the border, the driving force behind pakistan's "politics" is still "oh shit india".

The paradox is only a conflict between reality and your feeling what reality ought to be.
^{~ Richard Feynman}

2011-05-06 08:17:06

#4

FEOS: Bellicose Yankee Air Pirate; +1,182|6670|'Murka

I think Pakistan is more likely to do something to India than the other way around, for the reasons Macbeth cited. India doesn't want to endanger their rising power status. Pakistan has nothing to lose, and much to gain, from a nationalistic perspective. War with their archenemy would (at least temporarily) bind societal fractures as most/all would come together against a common foe. It would take the people's collective mind off the ineptitude of their government (for a time).

But I don't think it's likely.

“Everybody is a genius. But if you judge a fish by its ability to climb a tree, it will live its whole life believing that it is stupid.”
― Albert Einstein
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2011-05-06 08:22:32

#5

UnkleRukus: That Guy; +236|5295|Massachusetts, USA

FEOS wrote:
I think Pakistan is more likely to do something to India than the other way around, for the reasons Macbeth cited. India doesn't want to endanger their rising power status. Pakistan has nothing to lose, and much to gain, from a nationalistic perspective. War with their archenemy would (at least temporarily) bind societal fractures as most/all would come together against a common foe. It would take the people's collective mind off the ineptitude of their government (for a time).

But I don't think it's likely.

They would get crushed if they attempted an invasion, or another act of war. Against India.

If the women don't find ya handsome. They should at least find ya handy.

2011-05-06 08:35:15

#6

Uzique: dasein.; +2,865|6729

watch for india and pakistan?

thanks for the heads up, sleuth

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2011-05-06 08:42:10

#7

13rin: Member; +977|6738

The Pakis have nukes, so does India -so they're MAD assured.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-06 08:42:27

#8

SenorToenails: Veritas et Scientia; +444|6389|North Tonawanda, NY

Spark wrote:
watch that space, imo. there has always a lot of bitterness and antipathy between the two, but especially after mumbai.

now a lot of indians are becoming increasingly vocal about saying "well, shit, america just showed how it's done - why don't we pull something like that?" and that could get very nasty indeed. remember, pakistan doesn't have a real government, it's basically run by the military, and they still mostly fear india far more than terrorists.

Considering there are alleged links between the Mumbai attack and the Pakistani ISI, I'm not surprised that there's a lot of bitterness lingering over that.

2011-05-06 08:49:42

#9

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6258|...

SenorToenails wrote:
Spark wrote:
watch that space, imo. there has always a lot of bitterness and antipathy between the two, but especially after mumbai.

now a lot of indians are becoming increasingly vocal about saying "well, shit, america just showed how it's done - why don't we pull something like that?" and that could get very nasty indeed. remember, pakistan doesn't have a real government, it's basically run by the military, and they still mostly fear india far more than terrorists.
Considering there are alleged links between the Mumbai attack and the Pakistani ISI, I'm not surprised that there's a lot of bitterness lingering over that.

Yup, pretty much.

inane little opines

2011-05-06 08:55:54

#10

nukchebi0: Пушкин, наше всё; +387|6583|New Haven, CT

13rin wrote:
The Pakis have nukes, so does India -so they're MAD assured.

Not for the quantity and survivability of their arsenals.

2011-05-06 09:34:55

#11

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5496|Cleveland, Ohio

i hope they nuke each other

2011-05-06 09:39:51

#12

13rin: Member; +977|6738

Works for me.

I stood in line for four hours. They better give me a Wal-Mart gift card, or something. - Rodney Booker, Job Fair attendee.

2011-05-06 09:44:17

#13

Shocking: sorry you feel that way; +333|6258|...

as long as we stay out of it

inane little opines

2011-05-06 09:47:01

#14

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5496|Cleveland, Ohio

Shocking wrote:
as long as we stay out of it

2011-05-06 09:48:54

#15

Graphic-J: The Artist formerly known as GraphicArtist-J; +196|6385|So Cal

11 Bravo wrote:
i hope they nuke each other

That will mean no Bollywood.
Then that's OK with me.

2011-05-06 10:37:05

#16

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6972|Purplicious Wisconsin

11 Bravo wrote:
i hope they nuke each other

That is what I thought when I saw this thread title.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2011-05-06 11:10:34

#17

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5844

What's wrong with India?

2011-05-06 12:13:57

#18

War Man: Australians are hermaphrodites.; +564|6972|Purplicious Wisconsin

Macbeth wrote:
What's wrong with India?

Nothing.

The irony of guns, is that they can save lives.

2011-05-06 12:18:38

#19

Macbeth: Banned; +2,444|5844

Then why do you hope they nuke each other?

2011-05-06 13:11:13

#20

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6756

Macbeth wrote:
Then why do you hope they nuke each other?

it would hasten the return of a "Savior".

2011-05-06 13:25:16

#21

RTHKI: mmmf mmmf mmmf; +1,741|6996|Cinncinatti

muhammad?

2011-05-06 13:41:02

#22

11 Bravo: Banned; +965|5496|Cleveland, Ohio

Macbeth wrote:
What's wrong with India?

they cant stop fucking with paki

2011-05-06 18:11:12

#23

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6704|The Land of Scott Walker

burnzz wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Then why do you hope they nuke each other?
it would hasten the return of a "Savior".

No. It would not.

2011-05-06 18:25:45

#24

13urnzz: Banned; +5,830|6756

Stingray24 wrote:
burnzz wrote:
Macbeth wrote:
Then why do you hope they nuke each other?
it would hasten the return of a "Savior".
No. It would not.

“A third part of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke and sulfur” (Rev. 9:18)

whatever. i suppose you*re in training to be an astronaut?

1 Thess 4:17 Then we which are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so shall we ever be with the Lord.

don't debate scripture with the devil. he knows it better than you.

2011-05-06 19:13:01

#25

Stingray24: Proud member of the vast right-wing conspiracy; +1,060|6704|The Land of Scott Walker

Neither of those imply the events hastening the end. God brings it at His choosing.

Matthew 24:36
“But about that day or hour no one knows, not even the angels in heaven, nor the Son, but only the Father."

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