show us the body, obama
Tu Stultus Es
they're like clowncars of death. or reporters are pumping shit out faster than they can do research.Macbeth wrote:
So they managed to fit 79 commandos, a dog, and a dead body in 3 helicopters.
Yep .. chinooks
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook
"On 1 May 2011, Chinook helicopters were used for carrying around two dozen US Navy SEALS into the compound where Osama bin Laden was staying. The overnight raid ended in the killing of Osama bin Laden"
Though the wiki article has the number in the raid wrong.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boeing_CH-47_Chinook
"On 1 May 2011, Chinook helicopters were used for carrying around two dozen US Navy SEALS into the compound where Osama bin Laden was staying. The overnight raid ended in the killing of Osama bin Laden"
Though the wiki article has the number in the raid wrong.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
those things are like roller coasters
Tu Stultus Es
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.lowing wrote:
point being, in context to my post?AussieReaper wrote:
He still hasn't closed Gitmo. He promised to do that years ago.lowing wrote:
Anyway, so much for the age old condemnation from this forum that enhanced interrogation techniques does nothing. This board can no longer make those claims. It is how information was obtained that lead the CIA to bin laden.
Techniques condemned by Obama was used to find and kill bin laden, and now Obama stands poised for the credit. Gotta love hypocrisy
Australians: Not quite sure who got Osama.
[Blinking eyes thing]
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tzyon
Steam: http://steamcommunity.com/id/tzyon
tactical kangaroos.Ty wrote:
Australians: Not quite sure who got Osama.
http://media.crikey.com.au/wp-content/u … -osama.jpg
Doesn't look like a Chinook
Nevermind.
Last edited by Macbeth (2011-05-02 23:53:08)
gone silent because people are more worried about their jobs now.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.lowing wrote:
point being, in context to my post?AussieReaper wrote:
He still hasn't closed Gitmo. He promised to do that years ago.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
That is very true. Yet no one can figure out how anyone could possibly loathe the Obama administration concluding, it could only be racial.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.lowing wrote:
point being, in context to my post?AussieReaper wrote:
He still hasn't closed Gitmo. He promised to do that years ago.
so who is worse then. Bush, when you were able to bitch about everything under the sun that doesn't affect you, or Obama where you are now forced to concentrate on your own problems?Kmar wrote:
gone silent because people are more worried about their jobs now.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.lowing wrote:
point being, in context to my post?
Well I haven't heard that personally, but when I mention the inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning it's isn't met with logical debate. So we're in the same boat on that one I guess.lowing wrote:
That is very true. Yet no one can figure out how anyone could possibly loathe the Obama administration concluding, it could only be racial.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.lowing wrote:
point being, in context to my post?
Do you think TSA will go any easier on you now? They'll actually be on a heightened alert, considering.
nope in my opinion things will probably get worse. Bin laden, who had to go, is now a martyr and his name will become a battlecry for islamic extremism. My opinion of course.AussieReaper wrote:
Well I haven't heard that personally, but when I mention the inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning it's isn't met with logical debate. So we're in the same boat on that one I guess.lowing wrote:
That is very true. Yet no one can figure out how anyone could possibly loathe the Obama administration concluding, it could only be racial.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.
Do you think TSA will go any easier on you now? They'll actually be on a heightened alert, considering.
lol
Tu Stultus Es
I see, Bush had no part in the economy. Got it.lowing wrote:
so who is worse then. Bush, when you were able to bitch about everything under the sun that doesn't affect you, or Obama where you are now forced to concentrate on your own problems?Kmar wrote:
gone silent because people are more worried about their jobs now.AussieReaper wrote:
That I agree with you, in that the hypocrisy is laughable. Obama basically silenced the left on all the criticisms they had of Bush. He didn't change anything that was promised, but the left shutup anyway. I'm sure you've noticed opposition to the wars has gone silent too.
Xbone Stormsurgezz
http://articles.cnn.com/2008-02-13/poli … M:POLITICSPresident Bush on Wednesday signed the Economic Stimulus Act of 2008, calling it a "booster shot" for the American economy.
"The bill I'm signing today is large enough to have an impact, amounting to more than $152 billion this year, or about 1 percent of the GDP (gross domestic product)," the president said in the brief ceremony in the East Room of the White House.
The government hopes the measure, which will send most Americans tax rebate checks by May, will either prevent a recession or make one relatively brief.
...
The package will pay $600 to most individual taxpayers and $1,200 to married taxpayers filing joint returns, so long as they are below income caps of $75,000 for individuals and $150,000 for couples. There is also a $300 per child tax credit.Watch Bush sign stimulus bill into law
Funny how most people forgot about that.
I dunno, you said yourself, people are worrying about their jobs NOW, I take it to mean they were not worrying about their jobs when they were bitching about the war and Bush. Their jobs were safe and spare time to concentrate on bitching about everything Bush. Now they are royally fucked and are too busy trying to keep above water to bitch... you tell me, what did you mean then?Kmar wrote:
I see, Bush had no part in the economy. Got it.lowing wrote:
so who is worse then. Bush, when you were able to bitch about everything under the sun that doesn't affect you, or Obama where you are now forced to concentrate on your own problems?Kmar wrote:
gone silent because people are more worried about their jobs now.
That's rather shortsighted. Their jobs were not in fact safe while Bush was in office. The cards were already in play.
Also, pinning the economy strictly on any one man is stupid. Really.
I was commenting on the reality of concerns at the time. Do you dispute that? .. or are you just trying to drag me in to your never ending Obama-Bash?
Also, pinning the economy strictly on any one man is stupid. Really.
I was commenting on the reality of concerns at the time. Do you dispute that? .. or are you just trying to drag me in to your never ending Obama-Bash?
Xbone Stormsurgezz
Gas prices are worse, unemployment is worse, on top of the lack of hope and change ( tangible as they might be ) has never materialized.Kmar wrote:
That's rather shortsighted. Their jobs were not in fact safe while Bush was in office. The cards were already in play.
Also, pinning the economy strictly on any one man is stupid. Really.
I was commenting on the reality of concerns at the time. Do you dispute that? .. or are you just trying to drag me in to your never ending Obama-Bash?
The reality of concerns at the time then and now is an absolute truth, people now have less time to bitch about the war, because IN FACT, things are worse for them than they were before. I do not dispute that. I think, you might have stepped on your own dick by admitting it though.
Last edited by lowing (2011-05-03 01:08:49)
I tend to disagree. It happened so quick it's hard to make a martyr out of it IMO.lowing wrote:
nope in my opinion things will probably get worse. Bin laden, who had to go, is now a martyr and his name will become a battlecry for islamic extremism. My opinion of course.AussieReaper wrote:
Well I haven't heard that personally, but when I mention the inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning it's isn't met with logical debate. So we're in the same boat on that one I guess.lowing wrote:
That is very true. Yet no one can figure out how anyone could possibly loathe the Obama administration concluding, it could only be racial.
Do you think TSA will go any easier on you now? They'll actually be on a heightened alert, considering.
Though had he been captured and brought to trial then executed there would of course be martyrdom aplenty.
There are some Islamic leaders already condemning the treatment of Bin Laden's body..Seems as though the pot is already being stirred. Still Hamas and other Al-Quida friendly groups are condemning the murder of a "holy warrior". I gotta think his death is gunna be a rallying point.Jaekus wrote:
I tend to disagree. It happened so quick it's hard to make a martyr out of it IMO.lowing wrote:
nope in my opinion things will probably get worse. Bin laden, who had to go, is now a martyr and his name will become a battlecry for islamic extremism. My opinion of course.AussieReaper wrote:
Well I haven't heard that personally, but when I mention the inhumane treatment of Bradley Manning it's isn't met with logical debate. So we're in the same boat on that one I guess.
Do you think TSA will go any easier on you now? They'll actually be on a heightened alert, considering.
Though had he been captured and brought to trial then executed there would of course be martyrdom aplenty.
Not doubting you but you have links? I'd be interested in reading.
Also, an article from a couple journos who were pretty close to the whole story of OBL - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 … 206808.htm
Also, an article from a couple journos who were pretty close to the whole story of OBL - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 … 206808.htm
Its pretty clear he wasn't buried according to Islamic law.
I guess we'll see who makes a big deal of it.
I guess we'll see who makes a big deal of it.
Fuck Israel
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110502/wl_ … al_muslimsJaekus wrote:
Not doubting you but you have links? I'd be interested in reading.
Also, an article from a couple journos who were pretty close to the whole story of OBL - http://www.abc.net.au/news/stories/2011 … 206808.htm
http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20110502/wl_ … Vua2lsbA--
now, I do note we are not talking about "all musims", but still, there is enough outrage I think to expect some sort of response.
Another question I have that has been largely ignored is, how can it come to pass that Bin Laden was living under the nose of the Pakistani military and yet, somehow, they never knew it?
Last edited by lowing (2011-05-03 02:12:05)
Well since he is supposed to be non-Islamic, I hope it is not more that "a few" Muslims upset by this.Dilbert_X wrote:
Its pretty clear he wasn't buried according to Islamic law.
I guess we'll see who makes a big deal of it.