mexicansDilbert_X wrote:
Who the fuck wants to invade America lol
As for this "Soldiers are dumbasses lololol" thing the Heritage foundation (an admittedly right wing organization, I can find you left wing groups which agree with their states or I can post the U.S. military demographic reports if you would like though) released an excellent analysis of the who serves in the U.S. military based off of DoD reports.
Four major point.
http://www.heritage.org/research/report … d-officers
So yeah U.S. soldiers aren't dumbasses and here are statistics to prove it. /thread now reward me with karma and praise kthx
Four major point.
Some interesting graphs fro their report.1. U.S. military service disproportionately attracts enlisted personnel and officerswho do not come from disadvantaged backgrounds. Previous Heritage Foundation research demonstrated that the quality of enlisted troops has increased since the start of the Iraq war. This report demonstrates that the same is true of the officer corps.
2. Members of the all-volunteer military are significantly more likely to come from high-income neighborhoods than from low-income neighborhoods. Only 11 percent of enlisted recruits in 2007 came from the poorest one-fifth (quintile) of neighborhoods, while 25 percent came from the wealthiest quintile. These trends are even more pronounced in the Army Reserve Officer Training Corps (ROTC) program, in which 40 percent of enrollees come from the wealthiest neighborhoods-a number that has increased substantially over the past four years.
3. American soldiers are more educated than their peers. A little more than 1 percent of enlisted personnel lack a high school degree, compared to 21 percent of men 18-24 years old, and 95 percent of officer accessions have at least a bachelor's degree.
4. Contrary to conventional wisdom, minorities are not overrepresented in military service. Enlisted troops are somewhat more likely to be white or black than their non-military peers. Whites are proportionately represented in the officer corps, and blacks are overrepresented, but their rate of overrepresentation has declined each year from 2004 to 2007. New recruits are also disproportionately likely to come from the South, which is in line with the history of Southern military tradition.
http://www.heritage.org/research/report … d-officers
So yeah U.S. soldiers aren't dumbasses and here are statistics to prove it. /thread now reward me with karma and praise kthx
but but but John Kerry said only idiots end up in the military
No, I'm positive the military is the Government's way to legally kill the bottom tier of society.
I don't understand how $1200 of deferred salary becomes $50,000 without the govt putting some money in.Shocking wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I understand the benefits, I'm asking who pays for it.
Jay is claiming its self-funding, I don't believe him.Jay wrote:
deferred salary+ you work for it. But here's the thing though: if you actually want the GI Bill you have your wages garnished for the first year you serve. They take out $100 a month for the first twelve months (out of our already meager $1200 a month minus taxes salary) of service in order to fund it.
whats not to understand?
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well it is easy really. WHen you get hired on to a company, in this case the US military. you get pay and benefits.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't understand how $1200 of deferred salary becomes $50,000 without the govt putting some money in.Shocking wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I understand the benefits, I'm asking who pays for it.
Jay is claiming its self-funding, I don't believe him.Jay wrote:
deferred salary+ you work for it. But here's the thing though: if you actually want the GI Bill you have your wages garnished for the first year you serve. They take out $100 a month for the first twelve months (out of our already meager $1200 a month minus taxes salary) of service in order to fund it.
whats not to understand?
This includes money, vacation time, medical, housing, food, clothes, money toward college etc....You get these things in exchange for service.
How is it you don't understand?
DO you work Dilbert? Are you compensated for what you do?
He's in his mid-30s and still lives at home with mommy and daddy.lowing wrote:
well it is easy really. WHen you get hired on to a company, in this case the US military. you get pay and benefits.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't understand how $1200 of deferred salary becomes $50,000 without the govt putting some money in.Shocking wrote:
Dilbert_X wrote:
I understand the benefits, I'm asking who pays for it.
Jay is claiming its self-funding, I don't believe him.+ you work for itJay wrote:
deferred salary
whats not to understand?
This includes money, vacation time, medical, housing, food, clothes, money toward college etc....You get these things in exchange for service.
How is it you don't understand?
DO you work Dilbert? Are you compensated for what you do?
"Ah, you miserable creatures! You who think that you are so great! You who judge humanity to be so small! You who wish to reform everything! Why don't you reform yourselves? That task would be sufficient enough."
-Frederick Bastiat
-Frederick Bastiat
srs?
So it IS funded by the govt, not by garnishing wages.lowing wrote:
well it is easy really. WHen you get hired on to a company, in this case the US military. you get pay and benefits.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't understand how $1200 of deferred salary becomes $50,000 without the govt putting some money in.Shocking wrote:
+ you work for itDilbert_X wrote:
I understand the benefits, I'm asking who pays for it.
Jay is claiming its self-funding, I don't believe him.
whats not to understand?
This includes money, vacation time, medical, housing, food, clothes, money toward college etc....You get these things in exchange for service.
How is it you don't understand?
DO you work Dilbert? Are you compensated for what you do?
And its $1200 for a potential $85k in return.
The MGIB and the ACF are designed to help you pay for your college education. Depending on how long you enlist with the Army and the job you choose, you can get up to $85,536 to help pay for college. All you have to do is give $100 a month during your first year of service. If you select the ACF, the total amount is combined with the MGIB.
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Not really surprising, given its a requirement of entry.Macbeth wrote:
A little more than 1 percent of enlisted personnel lack a high school degree
Army tops recruit goal by lowering standards - Lower test scores allowed, but high school diploma still required
About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, or about 13,600, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including misdemeanor arrests or drunk driving. That is a slight increase from last year, the Army said.
Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for
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Not really surprising, given its a requirement of entry.Macbeth wrote:
A little more than 1 percent of enlisted personnel lack a high school degree
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197832/ns … -military/Army tops recruit goal by lowering standards - Lower test scores allowed, but high school diploma still required
About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, or about 13,600, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including misdemeanor arrests or drunk driving. That is a slight increase from last year, the Army said.
Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for "moral" reasons, mostly misdemeanor arrests. Thirty-eight percent were for medical reasons and 7 percent were drug and alcohol problems, including those who may have failed a drug test or acknowledged they had used drugs.
That doesn't sound so good, and 17% sounds pretty high to have to get waivers. I guess thats how you end up with psychos running amok in Afghanistan.
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Lower test scores in high school do not imply insanity.
if by funded you mean the soldiers are compensated for their service to the country, yes of course..so what?Dilbert_X wrote:
So it IS funded by the govt, not by garnishing wages.lowing wrote:
well it is easy really. WHen you get hired on to a company, in this case the US military. you get pay and benefits.Dilbert_X wrote:
I don't understand how $1200 of deferred salary becomes $50,000 without the govt putting some money in.
This includes money, vacation time, medical, housing, food, clothes, money toward college etc....You get these things in exchange for service.
How is it you don't understand?
DO you work Dilbert? Are you compensated for what you do?
And its $1200 for a potential $85k in return.The MGIB and the ACF are designed to help you pay for your college education. Depending on how long you enlist with the Army and the job you choose, you can get up to $85,536 to help pay for college. All you have to do is give $100 a month during your first year of service. If you select the ACF, the total amount is combined with the MGIB.
Wouldn't it be fair to just give every soldier the cash?
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Yup, just as fair as every other employee just paying cash instead of all the other benefits they offer. Oh and many offer tuition reimbursement as a benefit as well, just in case you wanted to single out college. It saves the company money ( military) in the sense that although they OFFER the benefit to everyone. Only a percentage of those that service will actually take advantage of it.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wouldn't it be fair to just give every soldier the cash?
i worked for a company that paid for 90% of tuition. why didnt they just give me the cash? derp cuz its a benefit they offer.Dilbert_X wrote:
Wouldn't it be fair to just give every soldier the cash?
pffftt..how many college students have that shit also? or do that shit in college? shut the fuck up you cancer.Dilbert_X wrote:
Not really surprising, given its a requirement of entry.Macbeth wrote:
A little more than 1 percent of enlisted personnel lack a high school degreehttp://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/15197832/ns … -military/Army tops recruit goal by lowering standards - Lower test scores allowed, but high school diploma still required
About 17 percent of the first-time recruits, or about 13,600, were accepted under waivers for various medical, moral or criminal problems, including misdemeanor arrests or drunk driving. That is a slight increase from last year, the Army said.
Of those accepted under waivers, more than half were for "moral" reasons, mostly misdemeanor arrests. Thirty-eight percent were for medical reasons and 7 percent were drug and alcohol problems, including those who may have failed a drug test or acknowledged they had used drugs.
That doesn't sound so good, and 17% sounds pretty high to have to get waivers. I guess thats how you end up with psychos running amok in Afghanistan.
We're talking people in responsible jobs representing your nation, not 'college students'.
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college students represent our nation
Really? Do college students get given guns and sent to police the world?
All I'm saying is if standards were higher, and/or management were tighter, things like the OP wouldn't happen.
All I'm saying is if standards were higher, and/or management were tighter, things like the OP wouldn't happen.
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i dont care
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i would discuss the topic but if you are going to troll and toss crap in like "police the world" then you can fuck right off and i will derail this thread and all threads you are in.
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i would discuss the topic but if you are going to troll and toss crap in like "police the world" then you can fuck right off and i will derail this thread and all threads you are in.
So anyway, whats your solution?
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to what? war?